Scott Frost is a weasel.

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I don't see how this can be seen as anything other than to provide a built-in excuse for losing to Wisconsin and Iowa and going 3-9 again.
 

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I don't see how this can be seen as anything other than to provide a built-in excuse for losing to Wisconsin and Iowa and going 3-9 again.
This was a ultimatum.. You either make changes immediately if you want to be here next year..

I’m not worried about the next 2 games ..I’m worried about the next 2 years..
 

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This was a power play by the administration to reduce Frost's buyout substantially, in return for giving him another year.

What does Scott do? he fires the guys that really weren't responsible for his failed offensive player and roster management, to pretend he is going to make changes to get it done.

Sadly, stupid people, and there are many in the world, will see this narrative and buy it.

The reality is, neither party did anything to better Husker football. They both lined their pocketbooks, and have new narratives to sell to the fans.

I feel bad for those coaches that got let go.

Scott is a piece of garbage in my book.

The players deserve better as do the fans.
 
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This is a shakeup......The current offense is not working
There's 2 games left in the season and we're told "they're close". So why punt on the last 2 games of the season by firing the entire offensive staff when "they're close" unless it's to provide cover for losing out? Is it because they were afraid they wouldn't be able to still say "they're close" when they lose out?
 
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This was a power play by the administration to reduce Frost's buyout substantially, in return for giving him another year.

What does Scott do? he fires the guys that really weren't responsible for his failed offensive player and roster management, to pretend he is going to make changes to get it done.

Sadly, stupid people, and there are many in the world, will see this narrative and buy it.

The reality is, neither party did anything to better Husker football. They both lined their pocketbooks, and have new narratives to sell to the fans.

I feel bad for those coaches that got let go.

Scott is a piece of garbage in my book.

The players deserve better as do the fans.

What a moron Trev is, what competent solid assistant coach will go to Nebraska to play for a 1 year Frost coach who loses?
 

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This is a shakeup......The current offense is not working

It would work just fine with the right QB and a better offensive line. The problem is that Frost does not have a QB who can execute the offense he wants to run, so he ends up running a random collection of plays without any real identity.
 

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Why would the firing of these assistants upset anyone? People have been calling for everyone of them to be gone almost all season.
 

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What a moron Trev is, what competent solid assistant coach will go to Nebraska to play for a 1 year Frost coach who loses?
Trev just did what the administration wanted.. to reduce that contract buyout.. (in my opinion)

They will get some ppl in those positions, probably pay them okay, but it will be the same problems as before.

Trev is a snake, but this will appease the dumb dumbs for now.

What is more uncertain to me, is how the players will react.

I think we will see a massive exodus of players out of the program on the offensive side, and it will further hurt the program.
 

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This was a power play by the administration to reduce Frost's buyout substantially, in return for giving him another year.

What does Scott do? he fires the guys that really weren't responsible for his failed offensive player and roster management, to pretend he is going to make changes to get it done.

Sadly, stupid people, and there are many in the world, will see this narrative and buy it.

The reality is, neither party did anything to better Husker football. They both lined their pocketbooks, and have new narratives to sell to the fans.

I feel bad for those coaches that got let go.

Scott is a piece of garbage in my book.

The players deserve better as do the fans.
Best post to date. Frost is completely incompetent and an arrogant piece of shvt.
 

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My lord, there really is no winning with some of you on here, I have seen multiple post saying that the people that were let go needed to be let go if Frost is retained… now here we are and Frost is retained and these guys are let go but now Frost is a POS for letting them go… so I get the narrative of saying it was forced and whatever, but yes these guys are to blame for the lack of development with their respective position groups, bottom line is they did need to be let go, weather it helps or not is to be determined but man put down the pitchforks and torches for a second people, and realize that regardless of what you think these people did need to go
 
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They wanted to retain Frost whether it’s due to the buyout, or the good old boy network, or both. They had to do it now before he is 3-9 and on 6 game losing streak. To make it palatable, lambs had to be sacrificed.

I guess the plan is to entice a decent OC by allowing him to select most of his staff. That’s a shaky proposition with Frost the offensive genius lurking over you. Maybe he can get Helfrich and have a ducking reunion.
 

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Was Frost suppose to fire himself? I want him gone, but since he’s not. These all seem like needed moves.
 

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@NikkiSixx has it right. Frost either wins or doesn't next year and that allows the administration from a financial perspective to make moves.

Frost wouldn't have fired his entire offensive staff besides 1 guy if there wasn't a "you fire them immediately or you are fired with CAUSE"
 

Swiv3D

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This was a power play by the administration to reduce Frost's buyout substantially, in return for giving him another year.

What does Scott do? he fires the guys that really weren't responsible for his failed offensive player and roster management, to pretend he is going to make changes to get it done.

Sadly, stupid people, and there are many in the world, will see this narrative and buy it.

The reality is, neither party did anything to better Husker football. They both lined their pocketbooks, and have new narratives to sell to the fans.

I feel bad for those coaches that got let go.

Scott is a piece of garbage in my book.

The players deserve better as do the fans.
I lean on the side of agreeing with you. This offense is Scott's offense. Changing coaches doesn't change the problems that are due to the scheme, which is top down. However, the story of Austin being an NFL style OL coach and needing outside help to fix simple things like Jurgens snapping... is bad. He needed to go either way. Still doesn't change the scheme problem. Firing the rest of the O coaches besides Beckton does lend itself to the thought that maybe SF is thinking about changing up the offense next year, or at least make critical adjustments to the base.

I've been stupid enough to be gullible about being hopeful with this team so far, I'll wait until the first few games next year to decide if this was a ****** move or not. It's happening either way and this year is lost so may as well not be upset over something we can't control. If the first few games they come out and it's basically the same offense then we'll know this is just smoke and mirrors and the next couple years are already down the drain. If they come out and it is fundamentally different then we can at least know they tried to fix the problems, whether it works out or not
 
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Why would the firing of these assistants upset anyone? People have been calling for everyone of them to be gone almost all season.
Those former assistants were instrumental in securing most of the recruiting commitments, makes you wonder how many will now back out. Losing an entire recruiting class normally reflects in the W/L record a couple of years down the road.
 

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Those former assistants were instrumental in securing most of the recruiting commitments, makes you wonder how many will now back out. Losing an entire recruiting class normally reflects in the W/L record a couple of years down the road.
Man I hope we can salvage this 77th ranked recruiting class
 

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Frost did what needed to be done. None of those four coaches will go on to better things. Now he has one year to turn this around or he is gone. If you don't love this outcome because I don't believe in Frost overall, but it is what it is.
 

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I just don’t understand how this doesn’t end badly?
1: as mentioned, who comes here for a 1 year experiment?
2: are we changing schemes? If so do we have players to win with this new scheme in 1 year?
3: so are we a portal QB team? What type of qb do we need to run this new O?
4: suppose magic happens and frost wins 7-8 games next year? And then reverts back to his mean the following year…. We’re in same boat
5: how intact is our D next year? If the answer is “not so much” it won’t matter how good the O is
 

NebChicago

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@NikkiSixx has it right. Frost either wins or doesn't next year and that allows the administration from a financial perspective to make moves.

Frost wouldn't have fired his entire offensive staff besides 1 guy if there wasn't a "you fire them immediately or you are fired with CAUSE"
Sean Callahan has a “source” who says otherwise. (Said while making jerkoff motion)
 

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I just don’t understand how this doesn’t end badly?
1: as mentioned, who comes here for a 1 year experiment?
2: are we changing schemes? If so do we have players to win with this new scheme in 1 year?
3: so are we a portal QB team? What type of qb do we need to run this new O?
4: suppose magic happens and frost wins 7-8 games next year? And then reverts back to his mean the following year…. We’re in same boat
5: how intact is our D next year? If the answer is “not so much” it won’t matter how good the O is
1. Why would it be a one year deal?
2. Why does mean the scheme is changing?
3. Didn't the vast majority of Husker fans want a portal qb?
4. He'll probably get fired and have much smaller buy out
5. Would it be anymore more or less intact if the whole coaching staff was removed?
 
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Why would the firing of these assistants upset anyone? People have been calling for everyone of them to be gone almost all season.
I have no problem moving on from the assistants. It had to happen. I disagree on the timing.

The administration says "we're close, we're close" and Nebraska has 2 games left in the season. Nebraska gives the head coach another year when the season could be 3-9, 4-8 or 5-7. So if "we're close, we're close," why fire coaches before the season is over?

It looks like they didn't feel confident in winning against Wisconsin or Iowa but wanted to keep up the "we're close, we're close" mantra. So how do you keep the "we're close, we're close" mantra if you're going to lose out? Create an excuse as to why we're still "close" but here's why were weren't close the last 2 games of the season. So now, when Nebraska goes 3-9, they can still say "well, we were close in all these games before we made the staff changes so see, it was right to bring Scott back". It looks like a way to justify keeping the head coach regardless of the results since they made the decision to bring him back before the season was over.
 

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Why would the firing of these assistants upset anyone? People have been calling for everyone of them to be gone almost all season.
I don't see the assistants as part of the major problem.. that is Frost and how he manages the roster and players.

He wanted new "toys" above all else.. even blew off recruiting linemen the first couple years.. had to take defensive guys to try and make his offensive line, because he didn't manage it.. but he recruited like 6 broken running backs, ran off good QB's and well, you know what all happened.

Many of the fans don't know any better, and they will buy this narrative, but it's always going to be Scott tinkering and calling the plays and mucking it up and giving excuses.

You can bet Adrian is going to be back next year.

Now, come December, it will be interesting to see how many players look elsewhere.

I feel bad for all those assistant coaches.. and if I'm a player, I'm probably really pissed off.
 

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@NikkiSixx has it right. Frost either wins or doesn't next year and that allows the administration from a financial perspective to make moves.

Frost wouldn't have fired his entire offensive staff besides 1 guy if there wasn't a "you fire them immediately or you are fired with CAUSE"
The more I think about it, the more I think you may be right about the assistants.

it's an easy way to reduce the salaries being paid out. The next round of hires will be at much lower values in my opinion.
 
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He made the neccesarry changes that other coaches haven't been willing to do in the past. You can't have change without changing things. Let's get behind him and see what happens
 

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Those former assistants were instrumental in securing most of the recruiting commitments, makes you wonder how many will now back out. Losing an entire recruiting class normally reflects in the W/L record a couple of years down the road.

Nice try. But way off. Our recruiting class sucks and we need a better staff, keeping poor assistants to keep a couple three stars
isn’t the answer.