Scholarships

dark_check

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All these committed recruits and possibles are great, I feel like we’re on the edge of greatness. Question, do we have the schollies? 2023, 2024, current players extra Covid years etc. Thanks.
 

RUtix4me

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If those players are serious and commit, the scholarships will be found I would expect.
 
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AZBlues

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We're already one scholarship over for next season, assuming that Davis and Ndongo sign and that all current players who are eligible return, so at least one player will have to go... Full for 2024-2025 too, if all current players with eligibility return and all unsigned commits sign. If we're able to bring in even more blue chips for '24-'25, I'd assume that there will be some transfers out due to expected lack of playing time or starting roles. And Cliff is included in the scholarship numbers for the next 2 seasons too, and it might be wishful thinking to expect him back for both years.
 
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njxchange

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I think Cliff stays one more year.

I can see Hyatt leaving.
I can see one leaving from Palm, Miller, or Rieber.
The way Palm is playing, i think he will likely move on as he will start thinking if can get some minutes he can produce for other teams. I see mid-major in him.

This would give us extra scholly to cover +1 at this time...
 
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82RU

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Is there a roster exception for those with an extra covid year? Like Geo's ship last season did not count against our 13. So that could mean that Caleb's does not count this season and Paul would not count next season if he came back.
 

Arizona Knight

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Is there a roster exception for those with an extra covid year? Like Geo's ship last season did not count against our 13. So that could mean that Caleb's does not count this season and Paul would not count next season if he came back.
Caleb is out of eligibility.
 

AZBlues

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NIL can pay for tuition. If it comes down to it.
This is kind of freaky... So a team can reach its 13 player scholarship limit, and have 2 more walk-ons who get NIL for all of their college costs along with additional NIL payments too. So does that expand the possible amount of a team's elite players from 13 to 15?...

Are there benefits for an elite player choosing an athletic scholarship over an elite player choosing to be a walk-on going to the highest NIL bidder, besides the fact that his college costs don't come out of his NIL profits? If not, the 13 player scholarship limit lost some juice... I realize that BYU did this for all of their football walk-ons, and it'll be interesting to see what the NIL future holds for walk-ons in general..
 
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NickRU714

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NIL can pay for tuition. If it comes down to it.

Seems like a waste. It's not football.
Don't need a 18 man roster like its an ASG.

Also, the elite players would have to agree to give up NIL $. Basically they would get the $$ and have to be willing to give it right back to Rutgers.
Alternative is get a tuition and all NIL goes to them.
 

red sail

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Is that how that works now? You either choose NIL $ or Tuition/Room/Board//Stipend
 

NickRU714

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Is that how that works now? You either choose NIL $ or Tuition/Room/Board//Stipend

No.
It's you get both.

For example - Gavin Wimsatt.
Rutgers is providing tuition, room, board, stipend for free (i.e. scholarship).

Outside entities/corporations (New Brunswick DevCo or KTR) are paying him for his NIL (appearances or in advertisements). He gets cash.


If a players is only getting NIL but no scholarship then they have to use NIL to PAY Rutgers for tuition, room, board.
Makes zero sense.

You make a scholarship available when needed.
Rutgers/HC Pike isn't asking Ace Bailey to PAY for school (out of his own NIL $), while a guy at the end of the bench gets a free scholarship.
 

Loyal_2RU

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No.
It's you get both.

For example - Gavin Wimsatt.
Rutgers is providing tuition, room, board, stipend for free (i.e. scholarship).

Outside entities/corporations (New Brunswick DevCo or KTR) are paying him for his NIL (appearances or in advertisements). He gets cash.


If a players is only getting NIL but no scholarship then they have to use NIL to PAY Rutgers for tuition, room, board.
Makes zero sense.

You make a scholarship available when needed.
Rutgers/HC Pike isn't asking Ace Bailey to PAY for school (out of his own NIL $), while a guy at the end of the bench gets a free scholarship.
Don't take message board posts too seriously. And of course they could get nil that is tuition plus.

But that's not what's happening here and now. I'm confident like knew what he is doing re scholarships...
 
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RUtix4me

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NIL is taxable, scholarships aren’t. I saw somewhere that an elected official was pushing to make scholarships taxable if an individual’s NIL go over $20k. Anyone can “receive NIL”. A number of programs in football have announced NIL for everyone walk-ons included
 

njxchange

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23/24 Lineup

G - Paul
G - Cam
F - Gavin
F - Mag
C -Cliff

Reserves
G - Simpson
F/C - Woolfolk
F/C - Rieber
G - Miller
G - Davis
F/C - NDongo
F/C - Chol

Good Bye transfers
Palmquist - goes to mid-major and does actually well
Hyatt - goes to another Power 5 but sucky team so he gets to start and be a ball hog shooter more

this opens extra Scholarship for 23/24 year