Schiano
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How about that: one of the best players in the nation has interest in the defending national champ. Shocker!
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Strange how he didn't have much interest before Schiano arrived
So do we have to have a new thread devoted to it or we going to get the answer as to whether Hobbs and Rutgers actually made a bona fide offer to Schiano
If we didn't and chose to get a younger version of the current Schiano with less experience, that would be a very interesting fact to put this all into perspective
If we didn't and chose to get a younger version of the current Schiano with less experience, that would be a very interesting fact to put this all into perspective
Couldn't care less if we did or didn't make an offer, to he honest, but isn't the word that "mutual interest" just wasn't there?
Am I the only one who..........
Could care less about what osu and Schiano is doing.
Tired of reading about him on this board.
Excited about the changes Ash is making and not going to nitpick every decision he makes.
Could care less about what osu and Schiano is doing.
Tired of reading about him on this board.
Excited about the changes Ash is making and not going to nitpick every decision he makes.
Yet you opened this thread.....and decided to participate ?
Just don't give him credit for this ( but can give Flood credit for where RU stands and know Ash will do better once he gets established)
Yahoo Sports: Rivals.com 2014 Team Recruiting Rankings
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/teamrank/2014/all/all
Yahoo Sports: Rivals.com 2014 Team Recruiting Rankings
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/teamrank/2014/all/all
Many of you don't get it had Schiano come back here you would have seen so many recruits back on board.
The difference between Ash and Schiano as HC is that with Ash we don't know what his ceiling is. It might be high, it might be medium, it might be low but with Schiano the ceiling is cemented right smack in the heart of Mediocrity Land.
Yes, decided to make my point one time despite pretty much hundreds of posts on schiano which I did not participate in. Sorry to bother you, please feel free to put me on ignore.
Gary, JG and a few of the New Jersey OL are the only kids I'm will to beg to come here but everyone else can take a hike.
Don't forget that Greg had a close relationship with Gary since the kid was camping at RU in 7th grade.
If only Ohio State had their own board so the Greg Schiano National United Trust Society of *** Kissers could go there.
F him.
F him.
I care. I think Ash is an interesting hire and he has a lot of the right stuff. My concern is the growing into the job thing. (much like the oc will need to).
This was supposed to be the time we hired a name hc who was ready to go. Not an AAC head coach or assistant who needed to learn that its not just coaching but overseeing that's the real role. A bona fide experienced head man--recall the Mullen talk.
And GS was such a guy who was ready and who would have lit a fire here. That is why I asked if GS had no interest then it's fine to move on. Nothing could be done. But if its us who didn't offer or made less than a bona fide offer and drove GS to an opponent, yes I think that's an issue. Doesn't mean Ash cant succeed but I have concern that we took that route.
Which is why I said its best if Hobbs got it out there that GS had no interest. Then getting a not fully formed GS without local ties is fine. But try as you may to move on until we hear that's what happened we are going to be living in second guess land.
That's ******** and you know it - we never got to see what Schiano could do, recruiting-wise, with the B1G behind him - I'm pretty sure it would've been impressive.
Exactly. People here weren't around or forgot the buzz when GS took over--and that was a cellar dwelling program that top kids wouldnt even talk about then. WIth a chance to talk rose Bowl and staring down the traditional powers it would be electric now.
Typical around here. Whiners who didn't get who they wanted will now tear down the guy who did get the job even tho their guy didn't want it in the 1st place.
Childish, selfish, and destructive = Scarlet Nation posters.
Childish, selfish, and destructive = Scarlet Nation posters.
Again 7 do you know that to be true? I have not seen confirmation of that but only agent leaks that looked like negotiating.
And I for one am not tearing Ash down. Said he has much of the right stuff. He's just early in the learning curve and this time was said to be different.
And I for one am not tearing Ash down. Said he has much of the right stuff. He's just early in the learning curve and this time was said to be different.
oh great some more battered wife posters who obsess over his every bowel movement
Just like JG.
Ohhhh please come back to me. I now know it was my fault. I promise I'll be good. I've never loved someone so much. I'm broken hearted without you. I'm nothing without you.
PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
No pride. No school loyalty.
There's a pretty good chance that 11 seasons as a HC at RU would create enough data points to create a fairly accurate predictor model for Schiano theorizing that he would be coming back to RU as HC even if it is a different conference.
While the potential for GS to recruit at a higher level is certainly there with the BIG as a backdrop....so too is the relative higher conference competition and lack of scheduling flexibility in the BIG which creates a much higher degree of difficulty in Game Situations/Outcomes.
GS was a very good program leader to bring RU from the brink to respectibility. As a recruiter he was charismatic and convincing. As a coach he was especially good on the Defensive side of the ball and in Kick/Punt blocking schemes. However even his most ardent supporters must admit that he certainly had his blind spots. While it certainly can happen, to expect a coach with this many data points to come back and produce significantly better results with the same program in a more difficult conference is curious.
I'm not singling you out in the following as you are a level headed posters but I thought I might add that ......There's too many posters on this board who just can let go. Personally I'm not even sure what they are trying to hold onto from the past. It's not like we are an historic winning program with all these historic championships to look back on to. People are holding on to a past that includes a few "almosts" and "what might have beens". Isn't it time to dream bigger? Ash may or may not be that guy - but I always thought part of the fun of being a fan is projecting what might be.
Hobbs should have given the Ash hire some thought before pulling the trigger. Hiring Ash and leaving the DC position open at OSU made Meyers next move a no brainier. Enter Greg Schiano, a good DC and a good recruiter. With the OSU logo on his blazer Schiano goes from being a good recruiter to a great one. An experienced AD should have anticipated this move. For me the cherry on the cake was agreeing to have him coach OSU until 1/1/16. I understand the dead period argument but there's a great deal of work to do around here, specifically getting his coaching staff straightened out. I'm going to remain cautiously optimistic.
So you're saying Hobbs shouldn't have hired the guy he wanted in Ash because there was a chance Meyer would bring in Greg? Sorry Trap but this Schiano nonsense has now jumped the shark with your post.
I was a big fan of Schiano but some people are flat out nuts. He was going to get a job sometime. He wound up in our division. Get over it. There is no conspiracy by Meyer. He made a good hire. So did Rutgers.
Im just saying there were other more attractive and safer hires out there. I honestly believe you guys are underestimating the recruiting damage he's going to do in this area.
Good grief, we just hired a coach and will have him for a few years at least. What is the point of continuing to argue over whether or not it woulda coulda shoulda been Schiano at this point?
So what is schiano's selling point. He was the head coach of Rutgers and walked out on his recruits right before LOI day, he followed his dream to the NFL and got fired after two horrible seasons, he took a job as a DC but won't be around long because he really wants to be a head coach.
What he selling is come play football at one of the best programs around. Not a very difficult job, most of the posters on this board could be successful recruiting for OSU.
What he selling is come play football at one of the best programs around. Not a very difficult job, most of the posters on this board could be successful recruiting for OSU.