Schiano and spring game attendance

[DHajekRC84]

You guys are the whiniest bitches of all time.

The spring game is boring, don't @ me. If there are nonsensical restrictions in September (when things will look much, much different) then get mad. You people bitching and moaning over hypotheticals are insufferable.

and what exactly do you think the fans at other "Big Time" programs would be saying if this happened there? Oh, that's cool. No worries. HA!

 

[knightfan7]

I'll be outside in a couple weeks attending my daughters graduation from Stockton, granted they are only allowing 4 people per graduate but at least its being held.

Right now Penn is virtual. Sucks for my sister and husband. They're going down and hang out on campus just to say they're there.

My nephew doesn't really care lol.

 

[fluoxetine]

and what exactly do you think the fans at other "Big Time" programs would be saying if this happened there? Oh, that's cool. No worries. HA!

Who cares? I'm expressing my own opinion, not live action role playing as a fan of a "big time program".

 

[RUTGERS95]

Who cares? I'm expressing my own opinion, not live action role playing as a fan of a "big time program".

don't you know, NJ citizens are sheep so just follow orders!

if the chinese virus has showed anything, it's just how passive and weak Americans have become in blue states

 

[RUJohnny99]

And nobody ever questioned whether those white Presidents, especially those who maybe didn't do so well at the job, were given that job because of race. But as soon as a black man isn't meeting someone's expectations, regardless of pedigree of education and experience, the question of it being a "race based hire" always comes. That, folks, is what's meant by systemic racism. Sure, it's nowhere near as bad as what went on in the Civil Rights era and before, but it's still an insidious problem and if people can't see that, they have their heads buried in the sand.

Well, nobody ever questioned the white presidents qualifications

Except for Fran Lawrence
And Richard McCormick
And Robert Barchi

I can't speak for Bloustein or the prior ones. I was in high school when he died. On a business meeting in the Bahamas.

 

[RUTGERS95]

Well, nobody ever questioned the white presidents qualifications

Except for Fran Lawrence
And Richard McCormick
And Robert Barchi

I can't speak for Bloustein or the prior ones. I was in high school when he died. On a business meeting in the Bahamas.

of course and for some to think it's race is beyond absurd and immature. We know the lot....

 

[realhoops2]

Well, nobody ever questioned the white presidents qualifications

Except for Fran Lawrence
And Richard McCormick
And Robert Barchi

I can't speak for Bloustein or the prior ones. I was in high school when he died. On a business meeting in the Bahamas.

Ok let's say some did question those gentlemen's qualifications...did they also call them race hire???

 

[realhoops2]

Ok let's say some did question those gentlemen's qualifications...did they also call them race hire???

 

[RUTGERS95]

Ok let's say some did question those gentlemen's qualifications...did they also call them race hire???

with a straight face, do you think race played no part in his hire? Also, 2 of those other hires were political hires which are equally as egregious.

it should be best man for the job

 

[RUJohnny99]

Ok let's say some did question those gentlemen's qualifications...did they also call them race hire???

I would assume the people who wanted to broaden the hiring process beyond old white men called them race hires. I seem to recall Fran Lawrence had some writings on the matter of race relations.

https://apnews.com/article/47378858c305451ab428e0f6374744bb

 

[fsg2_rivals]

I would assume the people who wanted to broaden the hiring process beyond old white men called them race hires. I seem to recall Fran Lawrence had some writings on the matter of race relations.

https://apnews.com/article/47378858c305451ab428e0f6374744bb

You would "assume"? Because last post you seemed pretty sure.

We know for a fact some have used Holloway's race, and race alone, because it's right in the thread.

I got a couple ideas for what you can do with assumptions.

 

[RUJohnny99]

You would "assume"? Because last post you seemed pretty sure.

We know for a fact some have used Holloway's race, and race alone, because it's right in the thread.

I got a couple ideas for what you can do with assumptions.

I recall the criticisms of prior presidents. Apparently you do not. Without proof, either of our viewpoints are assumptions.

 

[fsg2_rivals]

I recall the criticisms of prior presidents. Apparently you do not. Without proof, either of our viewpoints are assumptions.

Wrong. You made a contention, you need proof.

I made no such contention.

 

[Frida's Boss]

It’s quite sad that an obviously racist post is not universally denounced. Equally sad to see the posters who defend the comment and sentiment. But I guess that’s why the CE board needs a paywall.

 

[bac2therac]

Mccormick was definitely criticized as a privileged hire

 

[RUJohnny99]

Wrong. You made a contention, you need proof.

I made no such contention.

I'm just here to read about football spring practice.

 

[fsg2_rivals]

I'm just here to read about football spring practice.

Cool. Do so.

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

Ok let's say some did question those gentlemen's qualifications...did they also call them race hire???

oo.. I liked both comments.. both good points... what does that mean?

I do think there is room for affirmative action and so-called "race hires"... Holloway started out speaking well for himself.. but we still need to hire for the best we can get... what they plan to do... their "vision". McCormick and Barchi were both weak when it came to fending off attacks on athletics.. I have no idea why Holloway is weak on students returning to campus/spring game attendance... but I suspect the reducing of legal risk (personal and as Rutgers prex) is to blame. Damn lawyers.

BTW.. not to get footbal into this.. but the video on the side is featuring a short WR from Miami called Santana Flemming (2023) .. c'mon Rutgers.. go get this kid!

 

[MrsScrew_rivals32693]

Whats the email address for Hollowhead ?

I can't find a direct email for him, but there is a "contact the president" option, and emails for everyone else on his staff here:

https://www.rutgers.edu/president/contact-information

 

[JayDogSmooth]

50 % = ~25k

With 6 feet of social distancing I don’t see why 18-20k wouldn’t be the cap (season Tix holders only)

I don’t think Wel get that amount on a Thursday night but an official announcement would be nice since Emperor Murphy made the announcement yesterday, and some people may actually prefer planning ahead based on these new limits

 

[RU848789]

plenty of people questioned why McCormick got the job

You're the board version of the "Alan" character from the Hangover series (played by Zach Galifinakis), i.e., literally too stupid to argue with. Unsurprisingly, you completely missed the point of my post - go back and reread it and try again.

 

[RU848789]

Well, nobody ever questioned the white presidents qualifications

Except for Fran Lawrence
And Richard McCormick
And Robert Barchi

I can't speak for Bloustein or the prior ones. I was in high school when he died. On a business meeting in the Bahamas.

Add you to those who completely missed the point. Sure qualifcations get questioned for many, but those guys didn't have people saying they got the job because they were white. Do you really not understand this?

 

[HeavenUniv.]

I wasn’t a huge fan of disco, but I do miss KC and The Sunshine Band.

 

[MrsScrew_rivals32693]

50 % = ~25k

With 6 feet of social distancing I don’t see why 18-20k wouldn’t be the cap (season Tix holders only)

I don’t think Wel get that amount on a Thursday night but an official announcement would be nice since Emperor Murphy made the announcement yesterday, and some people may actually prefer planning ahead based on these new limits

I've been saying this since the beginning. Season ticket holders, families and students only. Throw in a few of the big donors, because, well, big donors. This will 1. keep Holloway happy with a less than 50% filled stadium. 2. Give GS a chance to be happy if there is an upsurge in season ticket sales from people who want to go to the games, since some of his bonuses are tied to ticket sales.
Now, I'm not sure how getting recruits and their families into the games plays here. Gotta let them in somehow.

 

[e5fdny]

Add you to those who completely missed the point. Sure qualifcations get questioned for many, but those guys didn't have people saying they got the job because they were white. Do you really not understand this?

Are there people who say what your saying? Sure. Some even in the thread.

But I think more people are saying it was just one of the things the search committee was looking for. Another box to check.

 

[NickRU714]

Does anyone know why President Holloway cares either way what the attendance limit is for the Spring Game?
I would think he has much bigger issues to deal with.
If he really feels it is a threat to Rutgers safety as an institution - he needs to address the 30% (and soon 50%) capacity limits with Gov. Murphy immediately.

I feel like AD Hobbs should have a bigger input his he is ultimately in charge of the logistics (and expense) for the Spring Game attendance.

 

[camps116]

Someone please post why they don't think Dr. Holloway is qualified without bringing up race. I'll wait.

 

[Mr. Magoo1]

Well, nobody ever questioned the white presidents qualifications

Except for Fran Lawrence
And Richard McCormick
And Robert Barchi

I can't speak for Bloustein or the prior ones. I was in high school when he died. On a business meeting in the Bahamas.

No one has been as incompetent as this president yet either.

 

[MrsScrew_rivals32693]

Does anyone know why President Holloway cares either way what the attendance limit is for the Spring Game?
I would think he has much bigger issues to deal with.
If he really feels it is a threat to Rutgers safety as an institution - he needs to address the 30% (and soon 50%) capacity limits with Gov. Murphy immediately.

I feel like AD Hobbs should have a bigger input his he is ultimately in charge of the logistics (and expense) for the Spring Game attendance.

I agree that Hobbs is a voice that has not been heard from. Actually, haven't heard much about Hobbs in awhile.

Holloway, if you listen to his interview with The Scarlet Spotlight podcast, comes across as extremely conservative in how he is treating sports vs. fans vs covid.

@HeavenUniv. this is for you:

 

[RUforJERSEY]

plenty of people questioned why McCormick got the job

They may have but certainly none of you did so due to his race.

 

[fsg2_rivals]

Are there people who say what your saying? Sure. Some even in the thread.

But I think more people are saying it was just one of the things the search committee was looking for. Another box to check.

The entire conversation in this thread started because someone said it was based on race, with no additional qualifications.

No reason to pretend otherwise.

 

[RUforJERSEY]

Add you to those who completely missed the point. Sure qualifcations get questioned for many, but those guys didn't have people saying they got the job because they were white. Do you really not understand this?

Add you to those who completely missed the point. Sure qualifcations get questioned for many, but those guys didn't have people saying they got the job because they were white. Do you really not understand this?

Right here in a nutshell. You nailed it.

 

[RUTGERS95]

Julie got the job on the added nod of being female and a lesbian so there is that...lol

gender and race hires happen everyday to argue otherwise is laughable. No different than eons ago when it was a 'a white mans'world' and others were discounted due to gender or race

checking boxes matters today, right or wrong (wrong of course)

 

[Jtung230]

#freeBarchi

 

[RU#1fan]

Does anyone know why President Holloway cares either way what the attendance limit is for the Spring Game?
I would think he has much bigger issues to deal with.
If he really feels it is a threat to Rutgers safety as an institution - he needs to address the 30% (and soon 50%) capacity limits with Gov. Murphy immediately.

I feel like AD Hobbs should have a bigger input his he is ultimately in charge of the logistics (and expense) for the Spring Game attendance.

Hobbs is absolutely Zero help to Rutgers fans. Remember he didn’t want to hire Greg.
We need reach out to the Governor and the RU President

 

[RUTGERS95]

In all fairness to Hobbs, we don't know what he was told to say or not say by the Prez. That said, in the interests of RU athletics, he needs to step up. No one at baseball games is a fking joke. Limiting attendance at a state institution lower than other state institution guidelines is absurd.

 

[RU#1fan]

I can't find a direct email for him, but there is a "contact the president" option, and emails for everyone else on his staff here:

https://www.rutgers.edu/president/contact-information

Thanks
Sent an email just now.

 

[Tango Two]

Whats the email address for Hollowhead ?

https://www.rutgers.edu/president/contact-information

 

[fsg2_rivals]

In all fairness to Hobbs, we don't know what he was told to say or not say by the Prez. That said, in the interests of RU athletics, he needs to step up. No one at baseball games is a fking joke. Limiting attendance at a state institution lower than other state institution guidelines is absurd.

This is my thought. Holloway's taking all the blame, but why would he give half a sht about the spring football game. It's Hobbs' job to make him give a sht and loosen up.

Just move it up to 10K and everyone should be happy.

 

[RUTGERS95]

This is my thought. Holloway's taking all the blame, but why would he give half a sht about the spring football game. It's Hobbs' job to make him give a sht and loosen up.

Just move it up to 10K and everyone should be happy.

agree

The thing with the spring game is it's a good PR opportunity, drives sales, drives revenue, press etc etc.. GS learned that lesson that hard way so he knows, it should be an event for the RU base and fringe people