Say what you will about bury.....

thekimmer

All-Conference
Aug 30, 2012
8,937
3,146
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But the boy can still recruit. Take a look at the McD AA roster commits.

Duke, UK, Western Kentucky, WHAAAT.....

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Wizard.sixpack

Freshman
Sep 15, 2009
6,511
58
48
That's the guy who he was on for Texas A&M and he followed him to WKU. He aint the only good recruit they got coming in either. They are also got Josh Anderson(4*), another La. kid coming in.
 

maroonmania

All-Conference
Feb 23, 2008
11,389
1,165
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He's a player "buddy". I believe that is what makes him such a great one on one recruiter but gets him such little respect from his players when it comes to discipline and his on court authority with them. Our program was a real life soap opera most of the time Stans was at MSU. The '04 team worked well because they were a very mature, high character group for the most part so little guidance was needed from the head coach.
 

engie

Sophomore
May 29, 2011
10,764
106
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I see no reason to believe he won't be excellent there. I'd bet he's had time to honestly reflect on the things he did right and the ones he did wrong while at State. Not like his flaws are insurmountable. They were very simple fixes, even while he was here.

that said, I've seen some stuff from national sports writers about him that makes me believe his recruiting is now squarely on the radar of those watching such things. He might have the scheme perfected -- but we thought that about freeze at one time as well.
 

thekimmer

All-Conference
Aug 30, 2012
8,937
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Yes I agree. From what I have heard his recruiting techniques were largely based on kissing butt so perhaps part of his issues was not gradually pivoting away from that as his program gained some stature.
 

Philly Dawg

Heisman
Oct 6, 2012
16,318
11,025
113
UCLA fans said the same about Howland towards the end when he had some discipline problems. Stans made some mistakes at the end, but on average over his tenure, his teams played disciplined ball and we were the best defensive team in the conference and often one of the best in the country. Even in his last years, where our defensive stats slipped, they were not too bad compared to what has come since.

People look at Stans either suspending players for key games or booting players from the team and decide he lacked discipline because he was too soft on them. Go figure.
 

BiscuitEater

Redshirt
Aug 29, 2009
4,178
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He's a player "buddy". I believe that is what makes him such a great one on one recruiter but gets him such little respect from his players when it comes to discipline and his on court authority with them.

Stans was/is a great recruiter because he works so hard at it. Very few, if any, BB HCs spend as much time on the road recruiting as he does. He builds 'personal relationships' with the players and the vast majority of his players respected Stans. Those that didn't left.

Our program was a real life soap opera most of the time Stans was at MSU.

This is either just a total mischaracterization or a blatant lie .. take your pick. Stans was the HC for 14 years. Things only started to go downhill at the very end of the 2010 season, and while they were still winning, team chemistry and discipline were missing.

The '04 team worked well because they were a very mature, high character group for the most part so little guidance was needed from the head coach.

While I agree that the '04 team was a 'mature, high character group,' MOST of Stans teams could be considered the same until the end. Stans took six teams to NCAAT in an eight year period. Which of those teams were NOT 'mature, high character groups?'
 

dorndawg

Heisman
Sep 10, 2012
9,463
10,976
113
His people skills are amazing. I had a couple random interactions with him as a student - he's definitely one of those people who make you feel like you're the only other person in the world.
 

engie

Sophomore
May 29, 2011
10,764
106
63
I guess it was the on the ncaa radar comparison that rustled the jimmies...
 

missouridawg

Junior
Oct 6, 2009
9,407
309
83
His people skills are amazing. I had a couple random interactions with him as a student - he's definitely one of those people who make you feel like you're the only other person in the world.

I have a close friend who is an assistant basketball coach in TX. They had a five star a few years back being recruited by everyone. This was when Stans was at ATM. He said Stans could go on for days about any-and-everything. This is, obviously, a good thing for relating to people whom you have nothing in common with.
 

HaleStater

Redshirt
Jun 10, 2015
241
0
0
He'll underachieve. Bet he still doesn't win that garbage conference. Stans gonna Stans. 13 years... 0 Sweet 16s.
 

Reunion Dog

Redshirt
Aug 26, 2012
193
1
0
Very good friends with Rick for 25+ years.. He LOVED State! I hate what happened.... the male cheerleader 17'ed him....... BLINDSIDED HIM...

But it is what it is now... I wish him nothing but success.... and yes... he could close the deal in recruiting....
 

dawgstudent

Heisman
Apr 15, 2003
40,732
22,964
113
Do you think he will move back to Starkville once his career is over?

Here's my question - would you put Williams or Stansbury as the 2nd best coach in MSU basketball history?
 

bruiser.sixpack

Redshirt
Aug 13, 2009
7,346
0
0
He'll underachieve. Bet he still doesn't win that garbage conference. Stans gonna Stans. 13 years... 0 Sweet 16s.

When did MSU become a men's basketball school?

I have been told on this site on many occassions that MSU is not and never really was a basketball school and is not a baseball school any more since all the elite programs found out that baseball was a Division 1 sport.

If Stansbury gets his teams into the tourney at WKU, he will accomplish more than our last 2 coaches chosen by Striklin/Howell.
 

Drebin

Heisman
Aug 22, 2012
22,953
28,640
113
Very good friends with Rick for 25+ years.. He LOVED State! I hate what happened.... the male cheerleader 17'ed him....... BLINDSIDED HIM...

But it is what it is now... I wish him nothing but success.... and yes... he could close the deal in recruiting....


Stans was a great ambassador for Mississippi State.

I always said that if he hired a tactical x's and o's guy for the bench, and let the guy work, he would have been here forever. He was a good recruiter, a good face for the university, and a solid human being. He could game plan well, but he struggled with in-game adjustments and got outcoached a lot. His lack of post season success was troubling, particularly in the Lawrence Roberts years.

He sold his soul to the devil over Renardo Sidney. Don't blame that crap on Stricklin. It was time to move on from Stans. Stricklin screwed the pooch with the Ray hiring.

I wish Stans well, but I'm not exactly waxing nostalgic about the last couple of years of his tenure, either.
 

patdog

Heisman
May 28, 2007
61,325
33,037
113
Overall, Stansbury. He won a true SEC title (Kentucky had a better record than we did in Williams' championship season) and won much more consistently. Williams had the higher highs, but he also had the lower lows.
 
Feb 14, 2017
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If stans was a good coach he would have been considered for one of the many power 5 jobs that came available this year or last year. He wasn't.
 

patdog

Heisman
May 28, 2007
61,325
33,037
113
Agreed. Stansbury was a Bulldog through and through. I hate it ended the way it did, but it was time for him to go. He should have taken the Clemson job when he had the chance. Would have worked out better for both him and for us.
 

tcdog70

Junior
Sep 24, 2012
1,409
269
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in a poll listing the top 100 basketball Polls Western Ky is listed way above Ole Miss. Gonzaga is not a power 5 job.
 
Feb 14, 2017
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That's not the point... the point is that power 5 schools are loaded with money because of TV deals and could pay whatever it takes to get a coach. none of them wanted stans. that's the point. now it is possible Stans could have held out for western kentucky considering that is close to his stomping grounds. However, none of the power 5 schools willing to dole out 3 million dollars or more wanted him. He has never coached a team to a final 4 much less multiple teams. never won a naismith. I'm really tired of hearing the name stansbury. he finally built his rep back to where he can recruit players with the title of HC. good for him.
 

maroonmania

All-Conference
Feb 23, 2008
11,389
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Stans was/is a great recruiter because he works so hard at it. Very few, if any, BB HCs spend as much time on the road recruiting as he does. He builds 'personal relationships' with the players and the vast majority of his players respected Stans. Those that didn't left.



This is either just a total mischaracterization or a blatant lie .. take your pick. Stans was the HC for 14 years. Things only started to go downhill at the very end of the 2010 season, and while they were still winning, team chemistry and discipline were missing.



While I agree that the '04 team was a 'mature, high character group,' MOST of Stans teams could be considered the same until the end. Stans took six teams to NCAAT in an eight year period. Which of those teams were NOT 'mature, high character groups?'

You have very selective memory. We had drama on most all of Stansbury's teams. But particulary after the '04 team with seemingly always someone causing issues. Hansbrough, the Delk twins, Rhodes, Bost, Turner, Augustus, RJohnson, Osby, Bailey, Sidney, Moultrie and on and on it went. Always someone unhappy, ready to transfer, showing disrespect to the coach, having a problem with teammates, etc, etc. For the last half of Stansbury's tenure the program was pretty close to a real life soap opera. Now we still won at a decent level through a lot of that but it was always there.
 

tcdog70

Junior
Sep 24, 2012
1,409
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That's not the point... the point is that power 5 schools are loaded with money because of TV deals and could pay whatever it takes to get a coach. none of them wanted stans. that's the point. now it is possible Stans could have held out for western kentucky considering that is close to his stomping grounds. However, none of the power 5 schools willing to dole out 3 million dollars or more wanted him. He has never coached a team to a final 4 much less multiple teams. never won a naismith. I'm really tired of hearing the name stansbury. he finally built his rep back to where he can recruit players with the title of HC. good for him.


How do you know nobody wanted Him? He didn't take a job till he got his State retirement in. It might not be your point but, yes, it is a point.Im sure most people don't care if you are tired of hearing it or not. Just saying.
 
Sep 10, 2016
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Rick had a good run here. I just can't respect a man that sits by and let's a player not workout and get in shape with no consequences. There was no excuse for that. I don't feel sorry for Stans. He did it to himself. Hell his last season we were going without practice for 2 weeks at the time during the season.
 
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