Same sh*t different staff

[dand84]

I was a lot happier before T.O. won his natties We won some big games, we lost some big games. Most of those big games were exciting and meant something. For the most part, season in and season out we were competitive. I really didn't appreciate T.O. enough.

Then came Solich. I thought, "We'll just continue the tradition. It might be bumpy, but you don't fix something that ain't broke, let's do this"!
Then came Callahan. I thought, "We'll maybe there is something to this new-fangled passing thing. I'm not sure how well it is going to work here, but let's do this"!
Then came Bo. I thought, "A big part of our identity is defense. Bo is a defense guy. How bad can that be, let's do this"!
Then came Mike. I thought, "Who the f*ck is this guy? Ok, I'll give him a chance, maybe he can do more with better players, lets do this"!
Then came Frost. I thought, "If anyone gets it, it has to be Frost, right? A coach everyone wanted, great pedigree, let's do this"!

I really hope we aren't going 0-5 since T.O. Either that or stop being so damned optimistic.

 

[otismotis08]

It's not realistic to expect Frost to be the next TO. Three national championships at Nebraska? Yes, it took him decades to achieve, but that is still a lofty goal.

I'm starting to wonder if we'll ever win another NC. If we could at least compete for conference titles most years, it would at least keep things interesting enough. They key word there is enough. Can we keep this thing together and not lose faith?

 

[RiLLLLLLLLey]

Callahan and Riley broke my optimism. I’m always hopeful, but now, when the Huskers lose, it almost doesn’t even affect me. Which is sad to me, when I think about it.

 

[HuskerBruce81]

It's not realistic to expect Frost to be the next TO. Three national championships at Nebraska? Yes, it took him decades to achieve, but that is still a lofty goal.

I'm starting to wonder if we'll ever win another NC. If we could at least compete for conference titles most years, it would at least keep things interesting enough. They key word there is enough. Can we keep this thing together and not lose faith?

Maybe Osborne is the greatest coach of all time and would have won 8 national titles somewhere else? He wouldn't have lost in Boulder with his strength and conditioning program had he gone there. Hell, Joe Gibbs used to steal from him.

Frost needs to become a top 5 coach or we wander the desert for another 20 looking for the next Devaney.

 

[FrostFoEver]

Go the opposite way...pay each assistant at least $1 million each. Then we keep the staff intact if they perform. Super motivated to do a good job if they make a million and not go somewhere else and make less than $300k.

 

[DrAlan_Grant]

Go the opposite way...pay each assistant at least $1 million each. Then we keep the staff intact if they perform. Super motivated to do a good job if they make a million and not go somewhere else and make less than $300k.

I like it.

 

[Nebraska_Reality]

Callahan and Riley broke my optimism. I’m always hopeful, but now, when the Huskers lose, it almost doesn’t even affect me. Which is sad to me, when I think about it.

I'd say you have your priorities in order. Unless someone actually played for the program, it shouldn't bother anyone longer than about 30 minutes when they lose. It's a game. They could never win another game ever again, and the world will keep on turnin'. Our lives will go on just as they would otherwise.

 

[RiLLLLLLLLey]

I'd say you have your priorities in order. Unless someone actually played for the program, it should bother anyone longer than about 30 minutes when they lose. It's a game. They could never win another game ever again, and the world will keep on turnin'. Our lives will go on just as they would otherwise.

No doubt, if Nebraska turned it around and started winning, it might sting more. But, as you said, it’s just a game. Played by college kids.

I just enjoy our amazing fans, and people out having fun. Sadly, it’s almost more about the social thing for me now. Sometimes, from our fans’ reactions, I can’t even tell whether we won or lost after a game.

 

[Ewooc]

Callahan and Riley broke my optimism. I’m always hopeful, but now, when the Huskers lose, it almost doesn’t even affect me. Which is sad to me, when I think about it.

Sad, but I agree. It is almost one of those things that is expected now. Back then it was an anomaly, something that had me pissed for days. Now Im like, figured and go on with my day as normal.

 

[TheNewNU_rivals50820]

It's not realistic to expect Frost to be the next TO. Three national championships at Nebraska? Yes, it took him decades to achieve, but that is still a lofty goal.

I'm starting to wonder if we'll ever win another NC. If we could at least compete for conference titles most years, it would at least keep things interesting enough. They key word there is enough. Can we keep this thing together and not lose faith?

People forget who Osborne was he was a guy that won 9 to 10 games every year but could never get over the hump. It was only his last 5 years where he exploded. We caught lightning in a bottle in the nineties that likely will never happen again but we can get back to where Tom had us beforehand. It's not crazy to want to win our division 30 to 50% of the time or win our conference once every 5 years. Those are realistic goals for this program in this day and age once we are there maybe we'll catch lightning in a bottle twice.

 

[RiLLLLLLLLey]

Sad, but I agree. It is almost one of those things that is expected now. Back then it was an anomaly, something that had me pissed for days. Now Im like, figured and go on with my day as normal.

It’s a strange feeling. And, I agree with all of your post. There’s only so long we can watch these games end poorly, where one is not forced to tune it out. At least, if we want maintain a semblance of sanity and happiness in the rest of our life.

But, I will continue to bleed Husker Red. Until I die.

 

[Solana Beach Husker]

Maybe Osborne is the greatest coach of all time and would have won 8 national titles somewhere else? He wouldn't have lost in Boulder with his strength and conditioning program had he gone there. Hell, Joe Gibbs used to steal from him.

Frost needs to become a top 5 coach or we wander the desert for another 20 looking for the next Devaney.

We aren't going to win a national title unless there are massive demographic changes. It is even hard for Texas and California to compete right now. The south always was good and we are lucky we got to play against some really bad programs in the 80s week after week. But Atlanta is and has been the fastest growing metroplex and has year round football going. It is hard to comprehend but something happened between 90-97 that drove a ton of talent into the big 8. Maybe it was probation for Alabama or ineptitude of SEC schools to educate kids, or southern high schools and parents wanting their kid out of the south...who knows...but I don't see that happening again..although you could say something like it happened in 2007...so maybe it happens every decade.

 

[phoenix4nu]

We aren't going to win a national title unless there are massive demographic changes. It is even hard for Texas and California to compete right now. The south always was good and we are lucky we got to play against some really bad programs in the 80s week after week. But Atlanta is and has been the fastest growing metroplex and has year round football going. It is hard to comprehend but something happened between 90-97 that drove a ton of talent into the big 8. Maybe it was probation for Alabama or ineptitude of SEC schools to educate kids, or southern high schools and parents wanting their kid out of the south...who knows...but I don't see that happening again..although you could say something like it happened in 2007...so maybe it happens every decade.

If we could gain a foothold in Missouri and Arizona and have a disciplined team, I think we would have a lot of success.

 

[HuskerBruce81]

People forget who Osborne was he was a guy that won 9 to 10 games every year but could never get over the hump. It was only his last 5 years where he exploded. We caught lightning in a bottle in the nineties that likely will never happen again but we can get back to where Tom had us beforehand. It's not crazy to want to win our division 30 to 50% of the time or win our conference once every 5 years. Those are realistic goals for this program in this day and age once we are there maybe we'll catch lightning in a bottle twice.

It would be the third time. Devaney caught lightning in a bottle beforehand.

We very well could have had 2 of the top 10 all time coaches back to back.

 

[Nebraska_Reality]

Sad, but I agree. It is almost one of those things that is expected now. Back then it was an anomaly, something that had me pissed for days. Now Im like, figured and go on with my day as normal.

And you're probably a better person for it.

A guy on another thread was very hostile to myself and a couple of other folks. He then called me a troll (of course couldn't expand on that, or what I said that was so terrible or wrong). Upon being called out by someone else, he admitted that he had just watched the game again on DVR, and it made him mad all over again.

To me, that's kind of sad if someone decided to expose themselves to something that made them mad a second time, and then has to be rude to people because of it.

 

[stillh8unlv]

It's not realistic to expect Frost to be the next TO. Three national championships at Nebraska? Yes, it took him decades to achieve, but that is still a lofty goal.

I'm starting to wonder if we'll ever win another NC. If we could at least compete for conference titles most years, it would at least keep things interesting enough. They key word there is enough. Can we keep this thing together and not lose faith?

I can help you out with that.... you're not going to.

 

[CatColumbia]

95 loses in this century thus far will do it. The college game has changed so much that it’s a lot more difficult to build a power house than best.

 

[redwine65]

frost will have it turning good year 5...k-state used to fire coaches every 5 years, and they were pretty terrible till they decided to hang on snyder. we need to get away from the coaching musical chair stuff. we seen this before, get a new coach fire the oc or dc then fire the coach (rinse repeat)...frost just needs to ignore the noise and stay on track.

 

[TheNewNU_rivals50820]

frost will have it turning good year 5...k-state used to fire coaches every 5 years, and they were pretty terrible till they decided to hang on snyder. we need to get away from the coaching musical chair stuff. we seen this before, get a new coach fire the oc or dc then fire the coach (rinse repeat)...frost just needs to ignore the noise and stay on track.

If it were always about hanging on to coaches Iowa would be dominant. Ferentz is the longest tenured coach in FBS. Only 37 of the 130 FBS coaches have been at their jobs longer than 5 years. That's 28%. 23 of 65 Power 5 teams have coaches that have been there 5 years or longer. That's only 35%. It's not just us and K State firing coaches every 5 years. It's 72% of the FBS teams. Frost said himself year 2 we'd compete. Now people are saying it's going to take 5 years? I'm sorry but that's BS. Scott's got 1 more year with these coordinators and 2 more years himself if he doesn't start winning. 6 or 8 games under .500 2 years in is not acceptable for anyone, even Scott Frost, at Nebraska.

 

[TheNewNU_rivals50820]

If we could gain a foothold in Missouri and Arizona and have a disciplined team, I think we would have a lot of success.

My problem with this staff is, other than Nebraska. I don't see them grabbing a foothold anywhere. They are going all over the place. Callahan was all about the Big 3 (Texas, Florida, California). Bo hit up Texas early years and then took the last 3 years off from recruiting. Riley had the 500 mile radius and California. What the heck is Scott's recruiting strategy?

 

[oldjar07]

If it were always about hanging on to coaches Iowa would be dominant. Ferentz is the longest tenured coach in FBS. Only 37 of the 130 FBS coaches have been at their jobs longer than 5 years. That's 28%. 23 of 65 Power 5 teams have coaches that have been there 5 years or longer. That's only 35%. It's not just us and K State firing coaches every 5 years. It's 72% of the FBS teams. Frost said himself year 2 we'd compete. Now people are saying it's going to take 5 years? I'm sorry but that's BS. Scott's got 1 more year with these coordinators and 2 more years himself if he doesn't start winning. 6 or 8 games under .500 2 years in is not acceptable for anyone, even Scott Frost, at Nebraska.

Couldn't have said it better. Most teams are cycling through coaches every 5 years. The ones who aren't either have great coaches they want to hold onto... Or they are mediocre programs that have accepted having a mediocre coaching staff over the long term. Holding onto Callahan or Pelini or Riley over a 25 year period isn't going to turn those coaches into Tom Osborne. It's no different with assistant coaches. It's obvious some of them are having major issues and no amount of time is going to make them better than what and who they are.

 

[dinglefritz]

Couldn't have said it better. Most teams are cycling through coaches every 5 years. The ones who aren't either have great coaches they want to hold onto... Or they are mediocre programs that have accepted having a mediocre coaching staff over the long term. Holding onto Callahan or Pelini or Riley over a 25 year period isn't going to turn those coaches into Tom Osborne. It's no different with assistant coaches. It's obvious some of them are having major issues and no amount of time is going to make them better than what and who they are.

IMO, hanging on to Scott Frost for 10 years might very well set us up for the kind of success that Osborne had. I firmly believe that he will get this ship headed in the right direction but we were unrealistic in expecting it to happen this year. Two more years IMO. Adrian's senior year and the junior year of this past freshman class we should be pretty good.

 

[TheNewNU_rivals50820]

IMO, hanging on to Scott Frost for 10 years might very well set us up for the kind of success that Osborne had. I firmly believe that he will get this ship headed in the right direction but we were unrealistic in expecting it to happen this year. Two more years IMO. Adrian's senior year and the junior year of this past freshman class we should be pretty good.

Have you seen that 2021 schedule Dingle? It's brutal. If Scott has another losing season next year. He will be done after 2021 cause that schedule is brutal. He needs to win about 9 games next year. Cause a pretty good team could very well go 6-6 with that 2021 schedule.

 

[Huskred01]

Have you seen that 2021 schedule Dingle? It's brutal. If Scott has another losing season next year. He will be done after 2021 cause that schedule is brutal. He needs to win about 9 games next year. Cause a pretty good team could very well go 6-6 with that 2021 schedule.

Agree. The schedule is horrible next year.

I have us going 5-7 again next year & that would mean the 2020 team is exceedingly better than this year’s team if we go 5-7.

 

[dinglefritz]

Have you seen that 2021 schedule Dingle? It's brutal. If Scott has another losing season next year. He will be done after 2021 cause that schedule is brutal. He needs to win about 9 games next year. Cause a pretty good team could very well go 6-6 with that 2021 schedule.

There's no way to know for sure how brutal the 2021 schedule will be until we get there. Lots can happen in a couple of years. Maybe OSU loses their head coach to the NFL. Harbaugh might be gone, Ferentz retired, etc. One doesn't know about other schools. One QB injury can really mess up a season. I can see what's happening at NU and I am certain that Frost will still be here along with a great QB, Wandale, Jurgens, Benhart, Nelson etc, a raft of good players from this most recent freshman class. Insert some early playing difference makers that Frost seems to find for his offense and I think we'll be pretty salty. We get everybody back on offense next year except Noa so I think our offense will be very good.

On D we're going to be playing some very young redshirt guys on D in the linebacker rotations and possibly at one CB and maybe safety. It's more of a question mark but I think we'll have more talent and size in the back 8 on D than we have this year. Year 4 though the whole deal will be Frost's. It's too bad that he had to scramble to try to salvage his first class. It's one of the prices you pay for changing head coaches. Year 4, we'll for the first time in a long time have a defense with guys playing who were recruited by their coordinator for his system and then coached by the same guys. I think that makes a difference.

 

[redwine65]

If it were always about hanging on to coaches Iowa would be dominant. Ferentz is the longest tenured coach in FBS. Only 37 of the 130 FBS coaches have been at their jobs longer than 5 years. That's 28%. 23 of 65 Power 5 teams have coaches that have been there 5 years or longer. That's only 35%. It's not just us and K State firing coaches every 5 years. It's 72% of the FBS teams. Frost said himself year 2 we'd compete. Now people are saying it's going to take 5 years? I'm sorry but that's BS. Scott's got 1 more year with these coordinators and 2 more years himself if he doesn't start winning. 6 or 8 games under .500 2 years in is not acceptable for anyone, even Scott Frost, at Nebraska.

whens is the last time we beat iowa?

 

[oldjar07]

Have you seen that 2021 schedule Dingle? It's brutal. If Scott has another losing season next year. He will be done after 2021 cause that schedule is brutal. He needs to win about 9 games next year. Cause a pretty good team could very well go 6-6 with that 2021 schedule.

I don't like projecting too far based on schedule, but we can be a better team the next 2 years and still have losing seasons. Four years into Frost's tenure without a winning season and his seat is going to be red hot. We don't need to just be better the next 2 years. We need to be drastically better in every phase of the game to have some kind of respectable record.

 

[Nebraska_Reality]

frost will have it turning good year 5...k-state used to fire coaches every 5 years, and they were pretty terrible till they decided to hang on snyder. we need to get away from the coaching musical chair stuff. we seen this before, get a new coach fire the oc or dc then fire the coach (rinse repeat)...frost just needs to ignore the noise and stay on track.

Snyder had them at 7-4 in his 3rd season....and K-State was in far worse shape than what Frost inherited.

 

[dand84]

https://www.omaha.com/sports/colleg...3f14dace-1bc6-5b88-a466-f180decb893d.amp.html

Love him or hate him, this captures better than my words what I was trying to say.

 

[uberism1111]

https://www.omaha.com/sports/colleg...3f14dace-1bc6-5b88-a466-f180decb893d.amp.html

Love him or hate him, this captures better than my words what I was trying to say.

Meh, no solutions written. Frost will get the job done and Dirk will find something else to write about.

 

[dand84]

It isn't an article about solutions.