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anon_013cn8yrfncx2

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Well if he didn’t want the second T then the refs finally gave us one. No way DA gets all those minutes if Cal stayed in the game.
 
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Cawood86_rivals

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Maybe I am wrong, but I thought he turned his back on the team. The call that he was thrown out on wasn't worth getting ejected over. I think he was just embarrassed and wanted out.
I sure hope not. I was surprised he got that upset over that, then he kept going. Bizarre.
 

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Some of you guys are just constantly reaching for stuff with Calipari. It’s rare that a guy at his level would be whiny and petty enough to purposely get bounced because he’s embarrassed. Honestly, that kind of mindset tells me a lot about anyone who suggests such a moment.

I don’t think it was on purpose. I think Calipari is likely being honest when he says he meant to get the first but not the second. In those situations, the second one comes really easy for refs and it surprises most coaches. The trigger gets light on the second one.
I agree. I think Cal has earned some legitimate criticism on multiple fronts. But some guys are just reaching for literally anything now. Even if it just isn’t there.
 

Cawood86_rivals

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Allen played quite a bit while Cal was still on the bench. Cal also played a lot of zone tonight. That in itself is very different. Making shots makes everything better for the team and Dontae definitely did that. Good on him.
So basically, the two main things fans have been saying on here worked. Allen played a lot and UK played zone quite a bit and they both were a big part of UK winning.
 

sk73

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So basically, the two main things fans have been saying on here worked. Allen played a lot and UK played zone quite a bit and they both were a big part of UK winning.
I did not think the zone was very effective but yes, you are right. Dontae played, he played well, and we used a zone. I do disagree on what is the main thing that you and others have been saying. Number one on that list is for Cal to leave. Who knows, you may get that right too. If so, I will still be a cat fan.
 

Cawood86_rivals

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I did not think the zone was very effective but yes, you are right. Dontae played, he played well, and we used a zone. I do disagree on what is the main thing that you and others have been saying. Number one on that list is for Cal to leave. Who knows, you may get that right too. If so, I will still be a cat fan.
So will I.
 

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The zone may not have been that effective tonight but the more he plays it and the kids get more experienced playing it, it might pay off big time later in the year.
 
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Cal said the first T was on purpose but didn't agree with the second one.
Don't believe that for a second but just to play along if so it was one of the dumbest moves ever. We actually were playing ourselves back in the game at the time before that one shot & those three points he gave up were killers that we were lucky to overcome.
 

bucsrule8872

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I think it was a great win. We needed it. It gives our guys some confidence. It puts some pressure on Cal. If he doesn’t play Allen in the next game and we lose, he looks like an idiot. So definitely a great win.
 
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LmdCat

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Cal knew he had to get this win to stop the losing streak and start out good in conference play. I can’t remember how many times he’s done that in the past but from what I remember it seems like it’s always worked.
It worked because his bench coaching was the problem and benefited from his removal. It wasn't the refs. Only a spin master can somehow make himself out to be the mastermind behind this comeback victory when it is inability to coach that caused the problem. The team's victories in Cal's absence proves that any coach who gets out of the way can win with UK's talent. With Cal as the recruiter and someone else coaching, UK can achieve great things.

If coach k did this, not a one of you would see this as nothing more than him wanting out but because it is Cal you call it a smart strategy. LOL. I guess you enjoyed your lemonade.
 
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Estil

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Man what a bunch of sad sacks .we get a win and people still bitching

Considering that not even Gillespie of all people ever lost more than four in a row...I think we have every reason to be wearing paper sacks with eye holes on our heads :(
 
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bcox13

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Fans are very frustrated because we know if Cal hadn't been booted Allen wouldn't have been in the game at crunch time. Fans are just fed up with the nonsense. One win isn't going to change that.
Then what is the endgame? He plays Allen 35 minutes pg and makes public announcement fans were correct?
Some of you will never be happy. Some (not specifically you) haven’t liked Cal since day one and I truly think many of you would just assume we lose every game this year.
Now THAT is what is really sad...
 
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LmdCat

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Then what is the endgame? He plays Allen 35 minutes pg and makes public announcement fans were correct?
Some of you will never be happy. Some (not specifically you) haven’t liked Cal since day one and I truly think many of you would just assume we lose every game this year.
Now THAT is what is really sad...
You need to remove your blinders. Cal hasn't acknowledged anything that wasn't clearly displayed for everyone who watched the game to see without a word from Cal. The team played its best basketball this season without Cal, The best performance of the early season came from a player who Cal had to be pressured into playing and only played him for a couple of minutes. As soon as Cal was booted, his assistant coach benched Boston, inserted Allen, and started running plays with a purpose. The greatest repudiation a head coach can receive is his assistant coach by action rejecting his coaching strategy. Also, it is really laughable to attempt to defend Cal's behavior when it comes to Allen.
 
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Montana81

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Allen likely doesn't play in OT if Cal stays in the game.

Cal is turning into a caricature.

ive actually been starting to wonder if he’s legitimately ill. It’s just mind boggling how badly he’s mismanaged this season. From the roster decisions and on court decisions to way hes interacted and responded to the media and fans and ofcourse the end results. I figured we’d struggle this season but never in a million years did I think it would be this bad.
 

Randy Bob

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Cal may be the worse coach I have ever seen knowing how good Allen could shoot and not letting him play all yr, there is no excuse.
 

LmdCat

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Cal may be the worse coach I have ever seen knowing how good Allen could shoot and not letting him play all yr, there is no excuse.
I wish I could just limit it to coaching. The way he has treated Allen is more than just a coaching issue. His behavior towards Allen is inexplainable.
 
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theoledog

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Today, we win a game. Dontae Allen played well and we still manage to dwell in the negative. Not just you but well, just look at the posts. I am celebrating the win and I was especially pleased to see Boston and Jackson, who also didn't play in the OTs, were cheering like crazy on the sidelines.
To your point..... just because they don’t play well doesn’t make them bad teammates or player. Nice to see Allen play well/contribute.... Cal-is fair game.
 

bcox13

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You need to remove your blinders. Cal hasn't acknowledged anything that wasn't clearly displayed for everyone who watched the game to see without a word from Cal. The team played its best basketball this season without Cal, The best performance of the early season came from a player who Cal had to be pressured into playing and only played him for a couple of minutes. As soon as Cal was booted, his assistant coach benched Boston, inserted Allen, and started running plays with a purpose. The greatest repudiation a head coach can receive is his assistant coach by action rejecting his coaching strategy. Also, it is really laughable to attempt to defend Cal's behavior when it comes to Allen.
I don’t have blinders on at all. I’ve been frustrated the last few years, and this year especially. I don’t disagree about Allen necessarily. I don’t have all of the facts or insight into what dialogue there has been between he and Cal either.

On the surface, it appears the kid should be getting more minutes and moving forward I think would be hard for Cal to disagree.
Cal’s behavior and the things he says about his players, at times, makes zero sense. But hell, most of the time when Cal is talking it makes zero sense. He tries to address things he is asked about in the most bizarre way, but that has been consistent since he has been here

my overall point had more to do with some people, while feeling vindicated by Allen’s shooting performance, would just assume we lose every game here out just to continue their there push that they want Cal gone
 

LmdCat

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I don’t have blinders on at all. I’ve been frustrated the last few years, and this year especially. I don’t disagree about Allen necessarily. I don’t have all of the facts or insight into what dialogue there has been between he and Cal either.

On the surface, it appears the kid should be getting more minutes and moving forward I think would be hard for Cal to disagree.
Cal’s behavior and the things he says about his players, at times, makes zero sense. But hell, most of the time when Cal is talking it makes zero sense. He tries to address things he is asked about in the most bizarre way, but that has been consistent since he has been here

my overall point had more to do with some people, while feeling vindicated by Allen’s shooting performance, would just assume we lose every game here out just to continue their there push that they want Cal gone
I agree with much of what you posted, however, your last paragraph is ridiculous. No real fan feels as you suggests.
 

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I agree with much of what you posted, however, your last paragraph is ridiculous. No real fan feels as you suggests.
My last paragraph isn’t ridiculous. Your last sentence is also true. I believe there are some here that are hoping for that....as you said, they are not real fans
 

LmdCat

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My last paragraph isn’t ridiculous. Your last sentence is also true. I believe there are some here that are hoping for that....as you said, they are not real fans
If that is the case, you are correct; they are not real fans. However, I believe the overwhelming majority of the posters here are either fans of UK or Cal. I purposely left out the possibility of both because at this point I don't think it is possible.
 

revcort

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You people are miserable.
But I love seeing you eat crow.
What's sad is that so many have to eat crow when the team wins and have to figure out a way to spin a conference road win to make the coach look bad in order to save face. How about we forget all that nonsense and just enjoy a win for a change? When you lose 6 straight, ANY win is worth celebrating. Can we do that? Or do we have to use a win to attack our coach?
 

LmdCat

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What's sad is that so many have to eat crow when the team wins and have to figure out a way to spin a conference road win to make the coach look bad in order to save face. How about we forget all that nonsense and just enjoy a win for a change? When you lose 6 straight, ANY win is worth celebrating. Can we do that? Or do we have to use a win to attack our coach?
What???? Cal's only contribution to that victory was getting booted from the game. If he doesn't leave, the team loses by at least 20. Are you sure you are not Cal or a family member? LOL Man you have a serious case of "I love me some Cal" disease. Someone please call Dr. Fauci. There has to be a vaccine developed ASAP!!
 

hotelblue

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it’s a big win because stopping the slide gets harder with each new bit of turmoil. it’s psychologically a lot to overcome so the apex game is always close, no matter how good the opponent is, and you just find a way to win and it’s extra hard.
 
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Estil

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Imagine how many paper sack heads we'd be seeing in Rupp if it weren't for the covid thing... :(
 

TFCat11

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We only shot 8 FTs and only made 3 and won an SEC road game and Quad 1 game in 2 OTs. BE HAPPY!

Let that sink in. 3 of 8 from the FT line in 50 mins of game play LMFAO.
UK won the game because Cal wasn’t on the bench to derail Allen from laughably upstaging his “chosen ones”!

Only the staunchest of antagonist pumpers are still trying to explain it as something else.
 
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UK won the game because Cal wasn’t on the bench to derail Allen from laughably upstaging his “chosen ones”!

Only the staunchest of antagonist pumpers are still trying to explain it as something else.
What the F*** does that have to do with anything I was saying in this thread? My comment didn't say a word about Cal.
My quote you are responding to, "
We only shot 8 FTs and only made 3 and won an SEC road game and Quad 1 game in 2 OTs. BE HAPPY!
Let that sink in. 3 of 8 from the FT line in 50 mins of gameplay LMFAO.

People are crying during a win and I said to be happy. I don't think anyone that knows BB would argue it is one hell of an accomplishment to only make 3 FTs on the road in 50 minutes of play and win.
 

TFCat11

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What the F*** does that have to do with anything I was saying in this thread? My comment didn't say a word about Cal.
My quote you are responding to, "
We only shot 8 FTs and only made 3 and won an SEC road game and Quad 1 game in 2 OTs. BE HAPPY!
Let that sink in. 3 of 8 from the FT line in 50 mins of gameplay LMFAO.

People are crying during a win and I said to be happy. I don't think anyone that knows BB would argue it is one hell of an accomplishment to only make 3 FTs on the road in 50 minutes of play and win.
All good man, I didn’t dispute what you said, and you can’t dispute what I said.

I’ve seen your post about your opinions on the Cal/ Allen situation, and you’re entitled to them 100%. Everyone is. I just respectfully disagree.

BTW, I’ve always respected your post, but we don’t always agree. It’s normal.
 
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All good man, I didn’t dispute what you said, and you can’t dispute what I said.

I’ve seen your post about your opinions on the Cal/ Allen situation, and you’re entitled to them 100%. Everyone is. I just respectfully disagree.

BTW, I’ve always respected your post, but we don’t always agree. It’s normal.
Cool. Also not sure if you are aware but I have been saying for weeks Allen needed to play more and that Cal needs to make some changes. I'm hoping we see the change continue with this team with Cal on the sidelines, but we won't know until the next few games are played. People forget Cal benched Whitney (His prized 5 star) last year after playing him big minutes early on. Cal does need to play Allen a good deal the rest of the way or at least until he proves otherwise. It's a new year and just trying to be hopeful. Good win last night.
 

Elliott Tim

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For Cal. Sad he can't be too pleased with this one... Egg meet face. Please... Dont try to take credit or explain. You were wrong plain n simple.

Side bar... Love the win but to get pumped over ms state... Ugg. Got a ways to go to return to UK standard.
Sad is relative around here. So is happy.