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AreYouNUTS

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G- RUnit said:
OSU and Michigan were ridiculous but to MSU is damning. Not seeing any improvement with the talent we have.
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We have very little talent. Yes, I know, I know, the RB's are talented, however....The OL is absolutely awful, hence, there are NO holes for our backs to run through and NO time for our QB to find open receivers (if they get open).
 
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RUSK97

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I'm just trying to figure out how to watch this team next year when we suck even more. Eastern Michigan will want to get in on the State of Michigan stomping on Rutgers thing.
 
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billhilf

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I guess at least if you are one of the many at the current events board, Rutgers football might not matter that much since either the world is coming to an end, or everything is amazing again (depending on where you fall).
 
Caliknight

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D1ESEL44 said:
How is coaching supposed to overcome the fact that you have a MLB and a WLB who are too weak to get off blocks? We suck defending the run because our LBs are too easy to block. Roberts consistently brain farts, takes bad angles to the ball carrier and get swallowed up in the wash. That is all on him. Morris needs to get stronger. He can't shed blocks. When your LBs are consistently blocked, it's much easier for the opponents RBs to get to the second level.
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It's not just them. Our DL gets pushed around like they are on skates, and our DBs are burnt toast. It's a bad mix. What's worse is they are likely really competitive with our offense in practice. We have nothing.

But yea, it's coaching. Lombardi would lose with this team. Ash might suck or he might be Belichik. No one can know with these players.

Recruit.
 
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AreYouNUTS

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RUinPAC10land said:
Gio is now beginning to look like a 2 star qb. The offensive line cannot block. The WR cannot get separation. LB are always out of position. DB cannot cover. DL cannot stop the run. MSU looks like a top 4 team. Sums it up.
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"it all starts and ends with the lines"...is really showing today. Our OL is awful. Flat-out awful. Because of it, as I just said in response to another post, we can't do a damn thing on O against a D like this.
 
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G- RUnit

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AreYouNUTS said:
We have very little talent. Yes, I know, I know, the RB's are talented, however....The OL is absolutely awful, hence, there are NO holes for our backs to run through and NO time for our QB to find open receivers (if they get open).
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What happened to quick slants, misdirections, reverses, quick pitches, using recievers, running backs in motion, roll outs. Nothing! It's not all talent. Hate the out pattern across the field. While it was a bad throw by Gio, that's a tough play for a first year QB. That's coaching.
 
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D1ESEL44

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formerlyknownasrutgers100 said:
why did we fire flood then? it was his players that sucked ..... they lost the games
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Flood didn't recruit at a B1G level and he was in over his head in a Power 5 conference.

I'm not going to trash this staff when I consider that they didn't recruit any of these kids. Maddox-Williams is our best LB out there - a true freshman recruited by Ash. Roberts needs to sit. He couldn't start for any team in the B1G. He is undersized, can't get off blocks and he doesn't play smart. Morris has potential but he needs to eat and hit the weight room. These kids play because the kids behind them are even worse.

If this were year 3 and these were Ash's recruits out there, then yeah, I would be all over Ash and Co.

Some of todays performance is on the coaching e.g. suspect playcalling on O, but most of it is on the lack of talent. We don't have a very talented football team. We have no playmakers on offense. Harris is decent but this is his first year. He flashes. Outside of him the only other guy we have in the passing game is a wildly inconsistent Patton. We have a QB with a gimpy hamstring. Martin is also playing hurt. Playcalling on O today has been suspect at times. Defense has been on the field the entire 1st half. Guys need to make plays and they haven't done it. On offense the OL is losing more one on ones than they have won. Can't run the ball effectively when they don't get a "hat on a hat".
 
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AreYouNUTS

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G- RUnit said:
What happened to quick slants, misdirections, reverses, quick pitches, using recievers, running backs in motion, roll outs. Nothing! It's not all talent. Hate the out pattern across the field. While it was a bad throw by Gio, that's a tough play for a first year QB. That's coaching.
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Again: you do realize the O we've run since the beginning of the 2nd half, against Minny, is not the same O that Gio was able to run prior, right? His injury has drastically cut down the playbook, without question, it's a shame, but what can we do? Throw Odin out there for the 2nd half? Maybe.
 
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D1ESEL44

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G- RUnit said:
What happened to quick slants, misdirections, reverses, quick pitches, using recievers, running backs in motion, roll outs. Nothing! It's not all talent. Hate the out pattern across the field. While it was a bad throw by Gio, that's a tough play for a first year QB. That's coaching.
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On the pick 6 - I agree with you. That was not a good playcall.

However - there were other targets on that play besides Harris. Rescigno should have checked off.
 
ScarletDave

ScarletDave

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If you live within 30 mins of RU get your butt to Busch today and see the ladies soccer team in action!! They deserve it so fun to watch !! NCAA tournament. Bring the kids!
 
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AreYouNUTS

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Yeah, it's the coach's fault that Muller was running up Martin's *** on the play, lol! I'm sure that's EXACTLY the way the play was designed and practice LOL!
 
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koleszar

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Our LB's are pretty much clueless. They don't know how to fill holes they merely shift laterally and try to catch the RB instead of attacking him. Beyond lost the whole friggin corps.
 
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