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Scarlet_Monster

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I'd love to be a QB on this team. Don't have to produce, and get a free education at a great university.

Gio can't sniff the field
Rettig can't sniff the field.

Oden is only allowed to run.

They hand the keys to Allen who won't even be here next year.

GENIUS!!
 
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JQRU91

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Pritz99 said:
We're two years removed from an 8-4 bowl team. How bad can the talent be?

Even with our limited talent, Improvement was always the magic word. Didn't even have to be on the scoreboard. Just week to week improvement in tackling, blocking, running, and passing. Just show we are getting better. I watch this team and see none of that in ANY category. The QB has regressed. Hugely. Defensive players don't seem to know what they're doing. They don't seem to be getting smarter. Not getting tougher. Offensively the line has deteriorated from week to week. Pass plays don't work even if the passes were completed.

The OC is out of his league. Over th years as we've played the Howards and Morgan States theyve had game plans that often worked at least some of the time. And we were overwhelmingly more talented. We're in trouble as a program. I hope I'm wrong and when we play the Marylands and Indianas of the league we will not embarass ourselves. That we will become a better tackling team. A team with some FB IQ. With some pride on the field.

As far as Harbaugh running up the score, embarassing a fellow league member with 2-point conversions...maybe he should be reminded that he has a lot more to lose than us: A late hit on his starting QB? A tackle at the knees of their all star running back? If he doesn't want to play gentleman's game, maybe we won't either. After all, he has to worry about playing OSU at full strength. We don't.
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Two years is actually a lot in college football. You just don't notice it as much with the elite programs because they just reload.
 
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KnightFan

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Scarlet_Monster said:
I'd love to be a QB on this team. Don't have to produce, and get a free education at a great university.

Gio can't sniff the field
Rettig can't sniff the field.

Oden is only allowed to run.

They hand the keys to Allen who won't even be here next year.

GENIUS!!
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Because last time Gio was in, he did so poorly

Kid had the beast mode run of the season and then is never seen again?
 
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RUSK97

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I considered Allen over with when He played his first snaps against Howard. Makes sense to keep him in this game though.
 
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D1ESEL44

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Our LB play in this game is almost as bad as a our OL play. Roberts has mastered the art of getting swallowed up in the wash - like on every running play.
 
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Pritz99

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JQRU --

Agree, 2 yrs is a long time, but it's not like we were just a flassh in the pan for that year. We were pretty solid year after year. To see this kind of drop off....
 
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Blitz8RU

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Pritz99 said:
JQRU --

Agree, 2 yrs is a long time, but it's not like we were just a flassh in the pan for that year. We were pretty solid year after year. To see this kind of drop off....
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We were solid against top 25-50 teams not top 5 teams.
 
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D1ESEL44

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Defense has to be absolutely gassed at this point. What I find surprising is that they haven't benched the starting LBs yet. Morris and Roberts and Maddox-Williams have to be exhausted they have played the entire game.
 
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All of us earlier in the game:

Laviano is 1/8 for 6 yards - how much worse can the backups be?

Since then:

Allen comes in and is 1/10 for -1 yard

Face palm

This is insane
 
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D1ESEL44

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Thank god this is over. I hope the team can flush this game, but this has to be demoralizing.
 
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czxqa

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D1ESEL44 said:
Defense has to be absolutely gassed at this point. What I find surprising is that they haven't benched the starting LBs yet. Morris and Roberts and Maddox-Williams have to be exhausted they have played the entire game.
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There's nothing behind them, they had to play.

That said, I was glad to see Ash played a lot of 2nd teamers himself in the second half. Player development first. We're done playing ranked teams for the year, so now that the schedule comes back down to earth a little bit, hopefully we will see the crucible they went through the first half of the year bear some fruit.
 
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D1ESEL44

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czxqa said:
There's nothing behind them, they had to play.

That said, I was glad to see Ash played a lot of 2nd teamers himself in the second half. Player development first. We're done playing ranked teams for the year, so now that the schedule comes back down to earth a little bit, hopefully we will see the crucible they went through the first half of the year bear some fruit.
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For the sake of this program, I hope you're right.

I was hoping for 4 or 5 wins in Year 1 of the Ash era, because he needed to show recruits that his team will compete. I thought that was realistic. There is no way to spin this...tonights game was not a good look for Ash. I think Ash is a competitor and he has a lot of fire, which kids will gravitate to. However, he and the staff are really going to have to raise their game the rest of the way.

I have no idea what Ash and Mehringer are going to do with this offense. One thing is for certain: they need to fix the OL. They played horribly tonight.
 
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czxqa

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D1ESEL44 said:
For the sake of this program, I hope you're right.

I was hoping for 4 or 5 wins in Year 1 of the Ash era, because he needed to show recruits that his team will compete. I thought that was realistic. There is no way to spin this...tonights game was not a good luck for Ash. I think Ash is a competitor and he has a lot of fire, which kids will gravitate to. However, he and the staff are really going to have to raise their game the rest of the way.

I have no idea what Ash and Mehringer are going to do with this offense. One thing is for certain: they need to fix the OL. They played horribly tonight.
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Agreed. I keep thinking back to the year Schiano brought in Captain Kirk to implement the spread and the offensive line was horrific because they couldn't adjust from a man blocking scheme to a zone blocking scheme. This line has the same look to it as that year. At least we have some great commits in the 17 class on o-line.
 
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Blitz8RU

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D1ESEL44 said:
For the sake of this program, I hope you're right.

I was hoping for 4 or 5 wins in Year 1 of the Ash era, because he needed to show recruits that his team will compete. I thought that was realistic. There is no way to spin this...tonights game was not a good look for Ash. I think Ash is a competitor and he has a lot of fire, which kids will gravitate to. However, he and the staff are really going to have to raise their game the rest of the way.

I have no idea what Ash and Mehringer are going to do with this offense. One thing is for certain: they need to fix the OL. They played horribly tonight.
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They faced Rashan Gary and Jabrill Peppers on D. Both top 5 star recruits from NJ and both future NFL players. Compare that with our team where future NFL talent can be counted on 1 hand.

We just don't have the talent. I don't think we ever will because top recruits want to play for top teams. Being around top peers makes your own game better. So I don't really blame them.
 
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Blitz8RUCrazy said:
They faced Rashan Gary and Jabrill Peppers on D. Both top 5 star recruits from NJ and both future NFL players. Compare that with our team where future NFL talent can be counted on 1 hand.

We just don't have the talent. I don't think we ever will because top recruits want to play for top teams. Being around top peers makes your own game better. So I don't really blame them.
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Rashan Gary was the least of RU's worries tonight. There are a half a dozen players on that Michigan defense - if not more - that are bigger impact players than Gary at this time. He will be great, but he's still a true frosh.
 
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Rutgars should not start stuff with top teams until the talent level is up to par. Michigan may get 5 to 6 5 stars this year alone.
 
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miketd1

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We are not a threat to pass AT ALL.

After watching the Eagles under Chip Kelly trying to run this same exact offense with a non-running QB, I've come to realize that better defenses can stop it because it's too damn predictable if your QB isn't a threat to take off for 20 yards on every play.

You just stack the box and play press-man. Google "Chip Kelly and the Vanishing Offense". Tremendous article complete with pictures and video explaining the main problems.
 
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RUinPinehurst

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Until RU fields a competitive team, "we" should abandon gimmicks such as Blackouts, Striping, etc. Stick to tradtional home unis. Stick to basics. Reintroduce the gimmicks once you're reputable.
 
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