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This would be great.
Edited to remove the Trump Tweet from a different Ryan Carty, as it was derailing the thread somewhat. Even though the guy in the Tweet looked nothing like the OC at UNH.
Edited to remove the Trump Tweet from a different Ryan Carty, as it was derailing the thread somewhat. Even though the guy in the Tweet looked nothing like the OC at UNH.
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Good 2013 article on Ryan Carty:
http://usatodayhss.com/2013/ryan-carty-defies-expectations-as-a-young-coach-and-stroke-survivor
As the youngest member of one of Central Jersey’s First Families of Football, Ryan had no trouble stepping out of the shadow cast by his father Kevin Carty Sr., a former Rutgers assistant coach who became a championship-winning coach at Somerville, and two older brothers, Kevin Jr. and Sean, both of whom starred under their father’s tutelage.
“He’s always been a little more independent because of the age difference between us,” said Kevin Jr., head coach at Hillsborough High School, where his dad and Sean are on his staff. “He had to be competitive to play with us because we were older, and to impress us he had to do something pretty good.”
Ryan set single-season state records for passing yards and touchdowns as a senior before heading to Delaware, where, as a redshirt freshman backup to quarterback Joe Flacco, he won the FCS national championship. He was hired under the recommendation of then-offensive coordinator Chip Kelly — who now is the Philadelphia Eagles head coach — to coach New Hampshire’s tight ends fresh out of college.
Carty worked his way up the positional coaching ladder over the next five years, and when longtime coach Sean McDonnell needed a new play-caller he stayed true to form and hired from within, age notwithstanding.
“You watched how those positions developed and they became very good players and very smart players. That just kept jumping out at me,” McDonnell said. “He was one of the youngest in the room, but he commanded a presence with those (other coaches) and was able to bring his own ideas. He also listened. Not only to me but also he took their input and ingrained our offense with those thoughts.”
McDonnell was most impressed with Carty’s knack for unearthing hidden talents in players and using them creatively to make sure everyone felt involved and invested in the offense’s success.
“We were super excited when we found out he was getting promoted because he’s young and he’s not afraid to go out there and take shots,” junior 1,000-yard wide receiver R.J. Harris said. “He is not laid-back. He is not conservative. He is one of us, one of the guys. We know we can count on him.”
http://usatodayhss.com/2013/ryan-carty-defies-expectations-as-a-young-coach-and-stroke-survivor
As the youngest member of one of Central Jersey’s First Families of Football, Ryan had no trouble stepping out of the shadow cast by his father Kevin Carty Sr., a former Rutgers assistant coach who became a championship-winning coach at Somerville, and two older brothers, Kevin Jr. and Sean, both of whom starred under their father’s tutelage.
“He’s always been a little more independent because of the age difference between us,” said Kevin Jr., head coach at Hillsborough High School, where his dad and Sean are on his staff. “He had to be competitive to play with us because we were older, and to impress us he had to do something pretty good.”
Ryan set single-season state records for passing yards and touchdowns as a senior before heading to Delaware, where, as a redshirt freshman backup to quarterback Joe Flacco, he won the FCS national championship. He was hired under the recommendation of then-offensive coordinator Chip Kelly — who now is the Philadelphia Eagles head coach — to coach New Hampshire’s tight ends fresh out of college.
Carty worked his way up the positional coaching ladder over the next five years, and when longtime coach Sean McDonnell needed a new play-caller he stayed true to form and hired from within, age notwithstanding.
“You watched how those positions developed and they became very good players and very smart players. That just kept jumping out at me,” McDonnell said. “He was one of the youngest in the room, but he commanded a presence with those (other coaches) and was able to bring his own ideas. He also listened. Not only to me but also he took their input and ingrained our offense with those thoughts.”
McDonnell was most impressed with Carty’s knack for unearthing hidden talents in players and using them creatively to make sure everyone felt involved and invested in the offense’s success.
“We were super excited when we found out he was getting promoted because he’s young and he’s not afraid to go out there and take shots,” junior 1,000-yard wide receiver R.J. Harris said. “He is not laid-back. He is not conservative. He is one of us, one of the guys. We know we can count on him.”
Carty gives us a true Jersey guy with experience in the Kelly mold... quarterback coach and recruiting experience... if it’s him then so be it.
If Ash is convinced - & willing to bet it all on Carty being the guy who can - in the heat of the game and in the grind of preparation - solve the complex puzzles - unravel the riddles - and figure out how to not just survive - but thrive - figure out how to exploit the opponent's tiniest points of vulnerability - Then YES!!! YES!!!
That actually makes him more likable!
Did not know he is a librarian on the side. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
For anyone questioning this potential hire:
New Jersey football guy from a New Jersey football family. Father and two brothers with deep roots in NJ high school football.
Strong track record of success.
Hired by Chip Kelly.
Chip Kelly started as OC at UNH. OC from 1999-2006. He seemed to do OK at Oregon. Same number of years Chip Kelly was OC.
Lots of coaches graduate from lower ranks. Art Briles came straight from high school, 2 years at RB coach, and then Houston Head Coach.
Here's a bunch of more reasons:
Ryan Carty is in his 10th season on the UNH coaching staff, and the 2016 campaign marks his fifth year as the offensive coordinator/quarterbacks coach.
In 2015, Carty oversaw an offense that averaged 358.8 yards/game (fifth in CAA), which included 211.8 passing yards/game (fourth) and 146.9 rushing yards/game. The Wildcats scored 23.9 points/game (fourth) and totaled 35 TDs (fourth). Senior signal caller Sean Goldrich passed for 1,867 yards and nine TDs while rushing for 210 yards and three touchdowns in only nine games. Under Carty’s tutelage, Goldrich graduated among New Hampshire’s all-time great QBs; he’s ranked third in completions (654), fifth in passing yards (7,536) and fifth in attempts (1,068).
The 2014 Wildcats ranked second in the CAA in scoring offense (36.0 points/game), third in rushing offense (169.5 yards/game), and third in passing offense (269.0 yards/game). The QB tandem of senior Andy Vailas and junior Sean Goldrich combined for a 147.0 pass efficiency (No. 2 in CAA), and senior wideout R.J. Harris led the league in receptions/game (7.14), receiving yards/game (110.8) and TD receptions (15). Senior RB Nico Steriti paced the CAA in overall TDs (18).
In 2013, the ‘Cats ranked third in the CAA in scoring (30.8 points/game) and rushing offense (192.9 yards/game); UNH boasted a pair of 1,000-yard receivers for the first time in program history, and had both a 1000-yard rusher and receiver for only the second time.
In 2012, his first year as coordinator, the Wildcats' offense flourished. UNH ranked second in the CAA in scoring offense (34.1 points/game), total offense (451.5 yards/game) and first downs (22.1/game) while placing third in rushing offense (220.8 yards/game) and passing offense (230.8 yards/game). The 'Cats registered the league's most prolific red-zone offense (94%), scoring on 47 of 50 trips with 36 TDs and a perfect 11-for-11 in field-goal attemps.
The QB duo of Andy Vailas and Sean Goldrich finished ninth and 10th, respectively, in passing average, making the Wildcats the only team with two signal callers in the Top 10. Sophomore wide receiver R.J. Harris earned a spot on the All-CAA First Team and the All-New England Team after ranking second in the league iin receptions (7.0/game) and receiving yards (88.2/game).
Carty spent two seasons (2010-11) as the Wildcats’ WR coach. In 2011, he mentored a pair of All-CAA WRs in sophomore R.J. Harris (Second Team) and junior Joey Orlando (Third Team). Harris tied for the league lead with seven scoring receptions en route to earning a berth on the College Sports Journal All-Freshman Team. The ‘Cats ranked first in the CAA in passing offense (274.7 yards/game) and third in scoring offense (32.8 ppg).
In 2010, senior wideout Terrance Fox earned All-CAA First Team honors and a place on the FCS All-New England Team after pacing the league in receptions per game (6.2). The Wildcats’ passing offense ranked second in the conference with 220.1 yards per game.
Carty coached running backs in 2008-09, helping an offense that ranked No. 1 in the CAA in scoring in ’09 and led the league in scoring offense in ‘08. Also in ’09, senior RB Chad Kackert was the CAA’s fourth-leading all-purpose runner, later signing a free agent contract with the Jacksonville Jaguars.
In 2007, Carty spent his first season at UNH coaching tight ends. That season, sophomore TE Scott Sicko was voted an All-Conference and All-America player. After graduating in 2010, Sicko signed a free agent contract with the Dallas Cowboys.
Carty began his coaching career at UNH after playing quarterback at the University of Delaware. He was voted captain in his 2006 senior campaign and played on the National Championship squad in 2003.
A 2007 graduate with honors from the University of Delaware in Business Management, Carty recruits the northern portion of his home state of New Jersey, Essex County in Mass. and the western portion of New Hampshire.
New Jersey football guy from a New Jersey football family. Father and two brothers with deep roots in NJ high school football.
Strong track record of success.
Hired by Chip Kelly.
Chip Kelly started as OC at UNH. OC from 1999-2006. He seemed to do OK at Oregon. Same number of years Chip Kelly was OC.
Lots of coaches graduate from lower ranks. Art Briles came straight from high school, 2 years at RB coach, and then Houston Head Coach.
Here's a bunch of more reasons:
Ryan Carty is in his 10th season on the UNH coaching staff, and the 2016 campaign marks his fifth year as the offensive coordinator/quarterbacks coach.
In 2015, Carty oversaw an offense that averaged 358.8 yards/game (fifth in CAA), which included 211.8 passing yards/game (fourth) and 146.9 rushing yards/game. The Wildcats scored 23.9 points/game (fourth) and totaled 35 TDs (fourth). Senior signal caller Sean Goldrich passed for 1,867 yards and nine TDs while rushing for 210 yards and three touchdowns in only nine games. Under Carty’s tutelage, Goldrich graduated among New Hampshire’s all-time great QBs; he’s ranked third in completions (654), fifth in passing yards (7,536) and fifth in attempts (1,068).
The 2014 Wildcats ranked second in the CAA in scoring offense (36.0 points/game), third in rushing offense (169.5 yards/game), and third in passing offense (269.0 yards/game). The QB tandem of senior Andy Vailas and junior Sean Goldrich combined for a 147.0 pass efficiency (No. 2 in CAA), and senior wideout R.J. Harris led the league in receptions/game (7.14), receiving yards/game (110.8) and TD receptions (15). Senior RB Nico Steriti paced the CAA in overall TDs (18).
In 2013, the ‘Cats ranked third in the CAA in scoring (30.8 points/game) and rushing offense (192.9 yards/game); UNH boasted a pair of 1,000-yard receivers for the first time in program history, and had both a 1000-yard rusher and receiver for only the second time.
In 2012, his first year as coordinator, the Wildcats' offense flourished. UNH ranked second in the CAA in scoring offense (34.1 points/game), total offense (451.5 yards/game) and first downs (22.1/game) while placing third in rushing offense (220.8 yards/game) and passing offense (230.8 yards/game). The 'Cats registered the league's most prolific red-zone offense (94%), scoring on 47 of 50 trips with 36 TDs and a perfect 11-for-11 in field-goal attemps.
The QB duo of Andy Vailas and Sean Goldrich finished ninth and 10th, respectively, in passing average, making the Wildcats the only team with two signal callers in the Top 10. Sophomore wide receiver R.J. Harris earned a spot on the All-CAA First Team and the All-New England Team after ranking second in the league iin receptions (7.0/game) and receiving yards (88.2/game).
Carty spent two seasons (2010-11) as the Wildcats’ WR coach. In 2011, he mentored a pair of All-CAA WRs in sophomore R.J. Harris (Second Team) and junior Joey Orlando (Third Team). Harris tied for the league lead with seven scoring receptions en route to earning a berth on the College Sports Journal All-Freshman Team. The ‘Cats ranked first in the CAA in passing offense (274.7 yards/game) and third in scoring offense (32.8 ppg).
In 2010, senior wideout Terrance Fox earned All-CAA First Team honors and a place on the FCS All-New England Team after pacing the league in receptions per game (6.2). The Wildcats’ passing offense ranked second in the conference with 220.1 yards per game.
Carty coached running backs in 2008-09, helping an offense that ranked No. 1 in the CAA in scoring in ’09 and led the league in scoring offense in ‘08. Also in ’09, senior RB Chad Kackert was the CAA’s fourth-leading all-purpose runner, later signing a free agent contract with the Jacksonville Jaguars.
In 2007, Carty spent his first season at UNH coaching tight ends. That season, sophomore TE Scott Sicko was voted an All-Conference and All-America player. After graduating in 2010, Sicko signed a free agent contract with the Dallas Cowboys.
Carty began his coaching career at UNH after playing quarterback at the University of Delaware. He was voted captain in his 2006 senior campaign and played on the National Championship squad in 2003.
A 2007 graduate with honors from the University of Delaware in Business Management, Carty recruits the northern portion of his home state of New Jersey, Essex County in Mass. and the western portion of New Hampshire.
Think about it, we can always have this song every time we lose if Canada was the OC
He never coached under Kelly. He was hired by Kelly, then he left right after to take the Oregon job.
I like Carty better than DM but still not enthused with him as a singular OC. As a co-OC and person to groom the way I've mentioned Graham Harrell or Frank Ponce I think he's perfectly fine but as THE MAN on his own not as excited. I'm a little disappointed some of the more established names like Wright or Mazzone seem out of the picture when they seem available.
Those stats are ok but I'd like to see rankings where the offense is ranked high in all the FCS not just the CAA. If we're going to go down there why not Cramsey at SHSU or even both of them if we went the co-OC route.
He's middle of the pack for FCS. Their offense is in the 60's. The numbers aren't good but they aren't bad.
Maybe my sarcasm meter is broken. There are multiple Ryan Carty accounts on Twitter. The Trump troller is a librarian, not the football coach from UNH.
Well if I had to guess who recruits sympathized with, it probably wouldn't be Trump. That's just the way the majority of their age demographic lean.
I don't mind pulling from the lower levels like the FCS but if we do, I'd like strong stats to back it up. I looked up the offensive stats for the last 5 years for New Hampshire. The first couple years were ok but the last 3 not so much. When Gundy pulled up Mike Yurcich from Shippenberg their offense was right at the top, that vicinity is what I'd like to see if we go down to that level. Cramsey to me seems a better option than Carty. Carty is a good option to have on board to groom for continuity in the future IMO if you really like him.
Year - YPG - PPG
2017 - 64 - 69
2016 - 65 - 46
2015 - 73 - 73
2014 - 26 - 16
2013- 29 - 34
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https://www.whittierdailynews.com/2009/12/22/lucky-and-good-the-chip-kelly-story/
2009 article on Chip Kelly, with quotes from his former HC:
“It probably seemed bold” to hire Kelly, said Bellotti, himself a Division II alumnus, coaching at Cal State Chico and UC Davis. “But it was borne out of the fact that I came from Division II. I know there were a lot people out there who said, ‘Who’s this guy?’
“But I knew he could coach. I think there’s a lot of snobbery in Division I football. But I always look at who can do more with less and to me, coaching is coaching. Chip was the best coach who understood our style of football and could make us better.”
2009 article on Chip Kelly, with quotes from his former HC:
“It probably seemed bold” to hire Kelly, said Bellotti, himself a Division II alumnus, coaching at Cal State Chico and UC Davis. “But it was borne out of the fact that I came from Division II. I know there were a lot people out there who said, ‘Who’s this guy?’
“But I knew he could coach. I think there’s a lot of snobbery in Division I football. But I always look at who can do more with less and to me, coaching is coaching. Chip was the best coach who understood our style of football and could make us better.”
I am very skeptical. This hire doesn’t scream excitement or a proven guy at this level. Ash whiffed badly on his first two OC hires. Logic would dictate he’s going to fail again. Maybe 3rd time a charm is all we can hope.
No issue with hiring a FCS coach and I always mention looking for coaches who have demonstrated doing more with less is something I try look at, it something I've mentioned when talking about Aranda in the past.
Since everyone seems to be bringing up Chip Kelly as comparison I looked up New Hampshire's offensive rankings during his time as OC there. Look at the numbers and overall they are better than Carty's and you also see a trend of improvement from the start of his tenure as OC towards the end where as in Carty's you see the numbers decline from the start towards the latter years. Also you see when he left the FCS, the rankings were right near the top of all of the FCS, that's exactly what I said I was looking for if we go down there. Again something like Cramsey at SHSU. Going to the FCS isn't the issue for me, it's what has he been doing down there and how good is it.
I'm not psychic there's no way to know how he'll do if he steps up and I do like him better than DM when he was hired but I have reservations. To me he's a good candidate for "junior" co-OC.
Chip Kelly's New Hampshire OC rankings.
Year - YPG- PPG
1999 - 16 - 41
2000 - 31 - 60
2001 - 9 - 37
2002 - 76 - 102
2003 - 20 - 12
2004 - 18 - 21
2005 - 2 - 3
2006 - 7 - 2
Nice post, well researched. You stuck to the facts, sometimes that doesn’t go over well on this board.
I try to be dispassionate and unbiased. None of these coaches are anyone to me. Sometimes people are like FCS ech, no HC experience ech, mid major ech...etc...I'm not that because I know good coaches can come from anywhere and I never like to narrow the pool down unless given good reason.
I just look at the stats and whatever else I can find and come up with hopefully an objective opinion. I'll do my best not to try to rationalize it. I wasn't enthused by DM but said he could be good for recruiting, wasn't enthused by Kill but said he could be good as an adviser to Ash. I'm not enthused by Carty but I like his experience better than DM and think he could be a good co-OC to take the reins down the line. I actually think Carty would probably do better than Kill/DM but when you're ranked in the 120s that's not saying much, it's about how much can he improve us and will it be as much as I think we're capable of as a program.
With all of them I'm not psychic and there's no way to know for sure how it will turn out.
Playing devils advocate, if he is good as a coordinator, why hasn't he moved on and up from UNH?
How many times are people going to ask the same question in the 2 threads on this topic?
I don’t really go for the co coordinator concept. Find the right guy give him the job and keep it clear who is accountable.
With regard to Carty, seems to me his stock was higher a couple of years back. His name has come up before for a job here. 10 years at UNH is a long stint if he truly has big time aspirations. If he is the guy then we need to support the hire but doubt this where Ash started looking.
With regard to Carty, seems to me his stock was higher a couple of years back. His name has come up before for a job here. 10 years at UNH is a long stint if he truly has big time aspirations. If he is the guy then we need to support the hire but doubt this where Ash started looking.
Statistics in a vacuum can be dispassionate, but sometimes it helps to look behind the statistics. Do you know who played QB for UNH 2004-2007? Ricky Santos, who went to the NFL from UNH. How often does that happen from a FCS school?
What does it say that Kelly's offense dropped from 37th in 2001 to 102nd in 2002? If Kelly was under consideration in 2002 for the Rutgers OC job, this board would be screaming and crying about what an undesirable hire he is.
Sure was nice for Kelly to stick around to let Ricky Santos bolster his resume.
Looks like in 2016/2017 a less prolific QB was taking a majority of the snaps for UNH, and he was injury prone. In 2015, their starting QB was injured.
So let's shelve Carty, who has deep NJ ties, and wait for the next Ricky Santos to show up to bolster his resume.
Hey, we can hire job hopping Mark Canada or Noel Mazzone for a year or two before their next best job comes along.