Rutgers NIL needs you....NOW

[Plum Street]

It's an entertainment option (like any other). As long as I am entertained, I will watch. When I am no longer entertained, I will watch something else.

Ok . Well, not sure how you were entertained during Shea and ash . But you hung abound because we may be competitive and be entertained one day , which you got rewarded for briefly during schiano 1.
So you’re still hanging around and being entertained. Have hope that we are competitive again one day . I don’t think there is a need to threaten that you will be done one day if we are not competitive. Most losing teams lose fans

 

[RU#1fan]

This is my plan. Once we get a couple 0-12 seasons under our belt, I'm sure I'll go back to my pre-2005 habit of not even watching.

You’re not even a bandwagon fan. Don’t let the door hit your arse on the way out.

 

[Knight Shift]

This is just so Rutgers. We are finally starting to be relevant in college sports and watch. The whole thing will come Crashing down

And a cadre of fans will encourage other fans to not contribute to TKR and/or will be happy to watch it crash. The usual Debbie Downers are enjoying this. You can tell by their comments and likes.

 

[Knight Shift]

In the Ash era (and for the 25 years previous), the school always had the opportunity to compete. In order to do so, they would have to win first ... which in turn meant that the school would need to spend money to make money ... but the opportunity was always there. We have a huge alumni base and we're in a market that supports winners - so if the school spent the money required to build a winner (and it could have), Rutgers could have been in a position to support itself (as a perennial Top 25 team going forward).

Post-NIL, it is different. The school (itself) can no longer spend the money required to build a Top 10 team - the rules don't permit it. And the alumni base is not going to spend the money to become a winner. And unless (and until) the team wins, it will not get the local sports fan reaction needed to support itself (as a competitive team) into the future.

If the Rutgers 1000 wanted to devise a way to destroy Rutgers Athletics, it couldn't have come up with a better concept than NIL.

My logic is just fine; as is my acceptance of reality.

There you and others go again with top 10 team nonsense. This was highly unlikely to happen pre or post NIL. But now she of you are using it to piss on NIL. Poor logic.

 

[RUforlife]

And a cadre of fans will encourage other fans to not contribute to TKR and/or will be happy to watch it crash. The usual Debbie Downers are enjoying this. You can tell by their comments and likes.

Serious question for all of the fans who are encouraging other fans to contribute to this NIL madness, since the players are now semi-pro and paid to play is it okay to boo them when they don't perform just like people boo non performing Giant and Eagles players? I have never booed a Rutgers football player no matter how poorly they have played, they were 18-22 scholarship athletes who put their bodies on the line to represent Rutgers without being financially compensated. Totally different model now, say you have a star receiver that starts dropping passes, now I have taken money out of my own family's pocket and given it him directly through my NIL contributions, isn't he now fair game to be booed? He is being paid to perform, if he is going to take the money, he needs to take the responsibility that goes with it. And our fans will need to grow up a bit and not ***** at other fans who are booing professional players that are not performing. This is all a slippery slope and by buying into it and encouraging other fans to do the same I don't think you are helping the situation in the slightest.

 

[Nycrusupporter]

Serious question for all of the fans who are encouraging other fans to contribute to this NIL madness, since the players are now semi-pro and paid to play is it okay to boo them when they don't perform just like people boo non performing Giant and Eagles players? I have never booed a Rutgers football player no matter how poorly they have played, they were 18-22 scholarship athletes who put their bodies on the line to represent Rutgers without being financially compensated. Totally different model now, say you have a star receiver that starts dropping passes, now I have taken money out of my own family's pocket and given it him directly through my NIL contributions, isn't he now fair game to be booed? He is being paid to perform, if he is going to take the money, he needs to take the responsibility that goes with it. And our fans will need to grow up a bit and not ***** at other fans who are booing professional players that are not performing. This is all a slippery slope and by buying into it and encouraging other fans to do the same I don't think you are helping the situation in the slightest.

Newsflash, no one cares if you boo or not.

 

[Knight Shift]

Serious question for all of the fans who are encouraging other fans to contribute to this NIL madness, since the players are now semi-pro and paid to play is it okay to boo them when they don't perform just like people boo non performing Giant and Eagles players? I have never booed a Rutgers football player no matter how poorly they have played, they were 18-22 scholarship athletes who put their bodies on the line to represent Rutgers without being financially compensated. Totally different model now, say you have a star receiver that starts dropping passes, now I have taken money out of my own family's pocket and given it him directly through my NIL contributions, isn't he now fair game to be booed? He is being paid to perform, if he is going to take the money, he needs to take the responsibility that goes with it. And our fans will need to grow up a bit and not ***** at other fans who are booing professional players that are not performing. This is all a slippery slope and by buying into it and encouraging other fans to do the same I don't think you are helping the situation in the slightest.

I will note that I have encouraged nothing. I have been uncharacteristically silent on the issue, because I am still thinking about it. But I will say this. Just like any debate on a hotly debated topic-whether it be on politics, religion, climate change, and now NIL, I tend to ignore the most vocal and strident critics who do nothing but throw cold water on ideas from the other side. Ones who use phrases/words like "madness," "crazy," "idiot/idiotic," "destroy," and predictions of a great apocalypse for college football. The fact is nobody knows how this will play out until we see some rules/regulations/guidelines on the topic.

I forget which thread I posted it in, but there was a 247 article with Lincoln Riley at UCLA complaining and expressing worry about NIL. Nick Saban and Ryan Day have expressed similar thoughts. I could be wrong here, but I doubt a multi billion dollar industry with many organizations (TV/Entertainment/Universities) making 10's and hundreds of millions of dollars are going to let it all burn down. And consider that football is the engine that drives most of the rest of University athletics.

An optimist by nature, I think we will find a way. Will there be wailing and gnashing teeth along the way? Sure, we already have that.

 

[Knight Shift]

Newsflash, no one cares if you boo or not.

There will be a box on the large scoreboard. Players making more than $50K per year-OK to boo. Everyone else, no booing allowed--unless you are Chris Laviano.

 

[Plum Street]

Serious question for all of the fans who are encouraging other fans to contribute to this NIL madness, since the players are now semi-pro and paid to play is it okay to boo them when they don't perform just like people boo non performing Giant and Eagles players? I have never booed a Rutgers football player no matter how poorly they have played, they were 18-22 scholarship athletes who put their bodies on the line to represent Rutgers without being financially compensated. Totally different model now, say you have a star receiver that starts dropping passes, now I have taken money out of my own family's pocket and given it him directly through my NIL contributions, isn't he now fair game to be booed? He is being paid to perform, if he is going to take the money, he needs to take the responsibility that goes with it. And our fans will need to grow up a bit and not ***** at other fans who are booing professional players that are not performing. This is all a slippery slope and by buying into it and encouraging other fans to do the same I don't think you are helping the situation in the slightest.

Haven’t you been reading this board? All the folks that want “college” in college sports are done and leaving rutgers fandom .

 

[RUforlife]

Newsflash, no one cares if you boo or not.

Newsflash, yes they do, that has been a sore point for a lot of people, booing scholarship athletes.

 

[Knight Shift]

Wonder if we will learn the details of why this 4 star player is leaving Texas A&M to play for lowly Rutgers where there is a vocal contingent of fans who thinks NIL is a terrible idea? Could be he was not going to make the two deep, or it could be he was going to make the two deep and he was homesick. We may never know.

But by all accounts, he contributed as a Freshman and was poised to be on the 2 deep. But even talented players are going to face issues of playing time at places like A&M:

"Coming into 2022, the defensive end position at A&M is a logjam that features Fadill Diggs and Tunmise Adileye as the likely starters, supplemented by talented freshmen like Anthony Lucas, Shemar Stewart, Enai White and Malick Sylla. Every player on this list was among the top 200 prospects in their recruiting class (and all except Diggs were top 100)."

Some talented players may indeed accept less money for the opportunity of playing time and playing close to home. Not all of them, but some of them. And for Rutgers, that may be good enough to be be competitive. Not top 10, but competitive. Like Northwestern has been under Pat Fitzgerald.

https://www.goodbullhunting.com/202...s-enters-the-transfer-portal-college-football

 

[RUforlife]

Wonder if we will learn the details of why this 4 star player is leaving Texas A&M to play for lowly Rutgers where there is a vocal contingent of fans who thinks NIL is a terrible idea? Could be he was not going to make the two deep, or it could be he was going to make the two deep and he was homesick. We may never know.

But by all accounts, he contributed as a Freshman and was poised to be on the 2 deep. But even talented players are going to face issues of playing time at places like A&M:

"Coming into 2022, the defensive end position at A&M is a logjam that features Fadill Diggs and Tunmise Adileye as the likely starters, supplemented by talented freshmen like Anthony Lucas, Shemar Stewart, Enai White and Malick Sylla. Every player on this list was among the top 200 prospects in their recruiting class (and all except Diggs were top 100)."

Some talented players may indeed accept less money for the opportunity of playing time and playing close to home. Not all of them, but some of them. And for Rutgers, that may be good enough to be be competitive. Not top 10, but competitive. Like Northwestern has been under Pat Fitzgerald.

https://www.goodbullhunting.com/202...s-enters-the-transfer-portal-college-football

And this has to do with NIL how? The kid obviously is not a starter and not getting paid starter money at Texas A&M, so why wouldn't he enroll in a program that is desperate for quality athletes. Proves himself here for a year and then goes off and makes his money elsewhere. This is probably going to be the new norm for 4 and 5 star kids who don't pan out at the elite programs. Schiano's concern is the opposite, we have a kid who is a 2 or 3 star out of HS and then develops into a very good player at Rutgers and then is offered $s to transfer to an elite school.

 

[Knight Shift]

And this has to do with NIL how? The kid obviously is not a starter and not getting paid starter money at Texas A&M, so why wouldn't he enroll in a program that is desperate for quality athletes. Proves himself here for a year and then goes off and makes his money elsewhere. This is probably going to be the new norm for 4 and 5 star kids who don't pan out at the elite programs. Schiano's concern is the opposite, we have a kid who is a 2 or 3 star out of HS and then develops into a very good player at Rutgers and then is offered $s to transfer to an elite school.

"Obviously" from what? Summer camp has not started. Do you have some inside information you can share about what happened here?

We get it you hate NIL, and you will dig in harder at each post and anything that might remotely support NIL. Are you going to make this a personal crusade?

 

[RUforlife]

"Obviously" from what? Summer camp has not started. Do you have some inside information you can share about what happened here?

We get it you hate NIL, and you will dig in harder at each post and anything that might remotely support NIL. Are you going to make this a personal crusade?

Fans paying the salaries of players is just not college football, sorry.

 

[RUBlackout7]

Fans paying the salaries of players is just not college football, sorry.

Fans paying for coach salaries is the only college football I stand for!!!

 

[Knight Shift]

Fans paying the salaries of players is just not college football, sorry.

You could at least welcome the young man to Rutgers. Sheesh.

 

[rutgersguy1_rivals]

I will note that I have encouraged nothing. I have been uncharacteristically silent on the issue, because I am still thinking about it. But I will say this. Just like any debate on a hotly debated topic-whether it be on politics, religion, climate change, and now NIL, I tend to ignore the most vocal and strident critics who do nothing but throw cold water on ideas from the other side. Ones who use phrases/words like "madness," "crazy," "idiot/idiotic," "destroy," and predictions of a great apocalypse for college football. The fact is nobody knows how this will play out until we see some rules/regulations/guidelines on the topic.

I forget which thread I posted it in, but there was a 247 article with Lincoln Riley at UCLA complaining and expressing worry about NIL. Nick Saban and Ryan Day have expressed similar thoughts. I could be wrong here, but I doubt a multi billion dollar industry with many organizations (TV/Entertainment/Universities) making 10's and hundreds of millions of dollars are going to let it all burn down. And consider that football is the engine that drives most of the rest of University athletics.

An optimist by nature, I think we will find a way. Will there be wailing and gnashing teeth along the way? Sure, we already have that.

Any time there's change, it's going to cause a lot of consternation and angst, that's just the nature of things. I've said similar. It's still early days and we don't know how things will all shake out and some rules/regulations will eventually be put in.

In the end though, I still think the "order of things" will still be the "order of things" by and large. The high status programs will still be the high status programs, the mid the mid, the lower the lower etc..If anything, the distruption is potentially from the bottom to the top. What the heck has A&M been doing in recent times until NIL. Now they're making noise, at least on paper. Theoretically, that potential lies there for any program not just the top tier ones. The top tier is the top tier but there's an actual theoretical way for a bottom tier to move up now.

I've said before if you see a bunch of programs of our status making big NIL deals etc.. and consistently then maybe we have issues but I haven't seen that yet. Most of the big deals we see are from the top tier as you'd expect. It's just the high status programs being what they've always been just in a different aspect. They're competing with each other like they always have been.

Also I just came across this article in the Athletic (paywall) about various stats and things about the portal. One stat was a large majority of transfers move down not up. It was a P5 G5 comparison but I wonder if the same might not be said from within the P5 but from high status P5 to lower status P5 as well. Along the lines of that A&M transfer we just got. I've said many times whenever there has been angst about NIL and the portal, roster spots, playing time and starting time are limited and potential contributors will be squeezed out. You see it by the numbers of players that move down rather than up. You have to find them and develop them. With NIL and stuff why is that. How did we get a player from NIL powerhouse A&M? There's a balance there between playing opportunity, fit, money etc..for each individual. It doesn't mean all these players are bad either. Those top programs are bringing in big names after big names year after year so potential contributors are going to be squeezed out. Every apple that falls to the ground isn't a rotten one. So the opportunity for programs like ours is still there.

In the other direction on the worry of losing our own players, how many Jordan Addison types are there. It does happen but it doesn't seem as much you might think. Why aren't top G5 players moving more into the P5, with NIL opportunity and all that comes with it? Instead only 14% is in that direction. Staying in a place that you're familiar and comfortable with seems just as likely if not more so.

I don't think the world is ending etc...everyone will eventually adjust and adapt but at the beginning there's bound to be uneasiness.

 

[RUforlife]

Fans paying for coach salaries is the only college football I stand for!!!

If businesses want to pay players NIL fees that is one thing, my issue is asking/pressuring average working class fans to contribute money to a fund to pay players directly, big difference.

 

[Knight Shift]

Any time there's change, it's going to cause a lot of consternation and angst, that's just the nature of things. I've said similar. It's still early days and we don't know how things will all shake out and some rules/regulations will eventually be put in.

In the end though, I still think the "order of things" will still be the "order of things" by and large. The high status programs will still be the high status programs, the mid the mid, the lower the lower etc..If anything, the distruption is potentially from the bottom to the top. What the heck has A&M been doing in recent times until NIL. Now they're making noise, at least on paper. Theoretically, that potential lies there for any program not just the top tier ones. The top tier is the top tier but there's an actual theoretical way for a bottom tier to move up now.

I've said before if you see a bunch of programs of our status making big NIL deals etc.. and consistently then maybe we have issues but I haven't seen that yet. Most of the big deals we see are from the top tier as you'd expect. It's just the high status programs being what they've always been just in a different aspect. They're competing with each other like they always have been.

Also I just came across this article in the Athletic (paywall) about various stats and things about the portal. One stat was a large majority of transfers move down not up. It was a P5 G5 comparison but I wonder if the same might not be said from within the P5 but from high status P5 to lower status P5 as well. Along the lines of that A&M transfer we just got. I've said many times whenever there has been angst about NIL and the portal, roster spots, playing time and starting time are limited and potential contributors will be squeezed out. You see it by the numbers of players that move down rather than up. You have to find them and develop them. With NIL and stuff why is that. How did we get a player from NIL powerhouse A&M? There's a balance there between playing opportunity, fit, money etc..for each individual. It doesn't mean all these players are bad either. Those top programs are bringing in big names after big names year after year so potential contributors are going to be squeezed out. Every apple that falls to the ground isn't a rotten one. So the opportunity for programs like ours is still there.

In the other direction on the worry of losing our own players, how many Jordan Addison types are there. It does happen but it doesn't seem as much you might think. Why aren't top G5 players moving more into the P5, with NIL opportunity and all that comes with it? Instead only 14% is in that direction. Staying in a place that you're familiar and comfortable with seems just as likely if not more so.

I don't think the world is ending etc...everyone will eventually adjust and adapt but at the beginning there's bound to be uneasiness.

As usual, we think an awful lot a like on these things. When you and I eventually rule the world of college athletics, or at least Rutgers athletics, everything will be just fine. In particular:

-"Along the lines of that A&M transfer we just got. I've said many times whenever there has been angst about NIL and the portal, roster spots, playing time and starting time are limited and potential contributors will be squeezed out."
---One A&M blog post referred to a logjam at the DE position (linked below). Rutgers currently does not have a logjam at DE. He is a huge get for us, and we should be happy. The Debbie Doubters want to cast stones. Let them. That's what they do.

-"You have to find them and develop them." This has been Greg's specialty and it has been demonstrated. His most successful players (except for a couple/few) were lower rated players that he and his coaches developed. RU may not win championships or be a top 10 team with these players, but as Rutgers ever going to realistically do that? NIL does not change a thing in this particular aspect. One issue, however, is the prospect of that haves poaching the players that RU and other lower rung teams develop.

-" There's a balance there between playing opportunity, fit, money etc..for each individual. It doesn't mean all these players are bad either." Exactly, see the first point above.

https://www.goodbullhunting.com/202...s-enters-the-transfer-portal-college-football

 

[RUBlackout7]

If businesses want to pay players NIL fees that is one thing, my issue is asking/pressuring average working class fans to contribute money to a fund to pay players directly, big difference.

But you’re ok with being asked for donations for paying coaches and never ending locker room renovations? Or are you against being asked for anything?

 

[zappaa]

But you’re ok with being asked for donations for paying coaches and never ending locker room renovations? Or are you against being asked for anything?

No big deal but season ticket holders were enticed to donate to improve seat location, parking privileges and receive special treatment perks.

 

[RUforlife]

But you’re ok with being asked for donations for paying coaches and never ending locker room renovations? Or are you against being asked for anything?

Again, coaches and facilities benefit all the players as opposed to paying select players what will be a lot of $s. The former the players are still student athletes, the latter they are pros.

 

[needmorecowbell]

Well said

1) I don’t foresee any millionaires on RU.
2) it’s weird to feel like you are directly paying the players. I get it. In this scenario you actually get something for it. You get Merch, player meet and greets, etc. it’s a new world. Some people won’t want to change. That’s nothing new.

 

[RUBlackout7]

Again, coaches and facilities benefit all the players as opposed to paying select players what will be a lot of $s. The former the players are still student athletes, the latter they are pros.

You mean coaches like Chris Ash who we are still probably paying and no longer coach here?

 

[Scarlet83]

Serious question for all of the fans who are encouraging other fans to contribute to this NIL madness, since the players are now semi-pro and paid to play is it okay to boo them when they don't perform just like people boo non performing Giant and Eagles players? I have never booed a Rutgers football player no matter how poorly they have played, they were 18-22 scholarship athletes who put their bodies on the line to represent Rutgers without being financially compensated. Totally different model now, say you have a star receiver that starts dropping passes, now I have taken money out of my own family's pocket and given it him directly through my NIL contributions, isn't he now fair game to be booed? He is being paid to perform, if he is going to take the money, he needs to take the responsibility that goes with it. And our fans will need to grow up a bit and not ***** at other fans who are booing professional players that are not performing. This is all a slippery slope and by buying into it and encouraging other fans to do the same I don't think you are helping the situation in the slightest.

This is a free country, please do what you want. I politely ask you to stop pissing on our KTR effort, which can only help Rutgers Athletics. Again, if you don’t want to contribute to KTR, that is completely fine. Lots of us want to do something, so please just let us without the never ending negativity/criticism.

And thank you very much for your decades of financial support to the school I love.

 

[zappaa]

This is a free country, please do what you want. I politely ask you to stop pissing on our KTR effort, which can only help Rutgers Athletics. Again, if you don’t want to contribute to KTR, that is completely fine. Lots of us want to do something, so please just let us without the negativity/criticism.

And thank you very much for your decades of financial support to the school I love.

Can I applaud KTR and everyone who donates to it given what is.
Yet really hope for regulating the free agent portal and our best players participating in bowls if healthy?

 

[Scarlet83]

Can I applaud KTR and everyone who donates to it given what is.
Yet really hope for regulating the free agent portal and our best players participating in bowls if healthy?

Thank you, zappaa.

And I completely agree with you that common sense regulation AND enforcement is needed. I appreciate your approach to this.

 

[zappaa]

Thank you, zappaa.

And I completely agree with you that common sense regulation AND enforcement is needed. I appreciate your approach to this.

Go RU

 

[RUScrew85]

This is just so Rutgers. We are finally starting to be relevant in college sports and watch. The whole thing will come Crashing down

I have made that point myself. The Ultimate RU Screw.

 

[AdventureHasAName]

There you and others go again with top 10 team nonsense. This was highly unlikely to happen pre or post NIL. But now she of you are using it to piss on NIL. Poor logic.

We had a Top 10 team in 2006 (regardless of what the final poll said). And in 2007, we were pre-season #16 and at one point we were #10 in the country. We also beat the #2 ranked team.

We are a school capable of Top 10 teams regularly (and Top 25 teams perennially), but it required the upfront investment to get there and the school was never willing to pour the necessary money into the team; everything the school has done regarding its athletics has always been half-assed (more like 10% assed) so that it looked like they were doing something without actually doing what was necessary.

 

[RUScrew85]

I am just interested to see what longtime fans that say they’re done are gonna do . Does that mean watch and not contribute to NIL? Not watch ? Go to games and tailgates only to watch us get our asses kicked in the game ?

Watch for now - no NIL. Maybe things change in the future but right now it seems likely I'll soon play golf in the fall on Saturdays too.

NIL plus easy transfers mean you're wasting your money. Bring back the old transfer rules and I'll consider it.

 

[RUScrew85]

Serious question for all of the fans who are encouraging other fans to contribute to this NIL madness, since the players are now semi-pro and paid to play is it okay to boo them when they don't perform just like people boo non performing Giant and Eagles players? I have never booed a Rutgers football player no matter how poorly they have played, they were 18-22 scholarship athletes who put their bodies on the line to represent Rutgers without being financially compensated. Totally different model now, say you have a star receiver that starts dropping passes, now I have taken money out of my own family's pocket and given it him directly through my NIL contributions, isn't he now fair game to be booed? He is being paid to perform, if he is going to take the money, he needs to take the responsibility that goes with it. And our fans will need to grow up a bit and not ***** at other fans who are booing professional players that are not performing. This is all a slippery slope and by buying into it and encouraging other fans to do the same I don't think you are helping the situation in the slightest.

Oh it's Booing time baby.

 

[rutgersguy1_rivals]

I have made that point myself. The Ultimate RU Screw.

I've said this before and I see it in the reverse. We're in a better place than we've ever been and opportunity is there to improve.

We're in a top notch stable conference and will be getting more money than most. We'll be in a better spot than Cuse, BC, WVU, Pitt, WSU, TT, etc..and teams of our status on the landscape.

Also the playoffs are going to expand, hopefully to 16. I've given examples of teams of lower status getting in or really close in a 12 and 16 playoff model. Again more opportunity than the past.

By and large, IMO things will be status quo but the opportunity is there for more, whether we take advantage of it or not is another story.

I'll give this example from the past with regards to all the angst on the board with regards to NIL, portal etc.. This past example at least kind of deserved it. With each round of defections from the BE, this board went all kinds of crazy with doom and gloom etc.. I said all along with each round of defections I think we'll be okay and get into the B10 before the next tv deal. No inside info or anything, I'm just Joe Nobody Idiot, just educating guessing about the landscape. Of course, we did get in. Point being, I think this place can get all kinds of crazy and melodramatic over stuff but in the end things will be fine. Worst case, I see status quo, best case we have a chance to improve ourselves on the landscape.

 

[NBKnight]

There will be a box on the large scoreboard. Players making more than $50K per year-OK to boo. Everyone else, no booing allowed--unless you are Chris Laviano.

Or Mike Teel or Gary Nova. People love to boo those guys.

 

[Knight Shift]

Or Mike Teel or Gary Nova. People love to boo those guys.

No boos for Noah? (It's always the QB's fault that he gets sacked, hurries a pass and misses).

 

[Scarlet83]

I'll give this example from the past with regards to all the angst on the board with regards to NIL, portal etc.. This past example at least kind of deserved it. With each round of defections from the BE, this board went all kinds of crazy with doom and gloom etc.. I said all along with each round of defections I think we'll be okay and get into the B10 before the next tv deal. No inside info or anything, I'm just Joe Nobody Idiot, just educating guessing about the landscape. Of course, we did get in. Point being, I think this place can get all kinds of crazy and melodramatic over stuff but in the end things will be fine. Worst case, I see status quo, best case we have a chance to improve ourselves on the landscape.

This is so true. Some people are wired to worry about everything, and most of what they worry about never comes to fruition. Others are blinded by only seeing the negative, many just don’t like change, and still others are very distrustful of people. IMO, none of that helps.

In my experience, a winning approach includes being positive, trusting those with unique and relevant expertise, and planning and actively working toward an achievable solution. And usually this approach works out.

 

[bitnez]

I wish a lot of the hyperbole around this issue would go away. Let’s stay with the facts:

- season ticket holders and fans contribute to the school
- some portion of those contributions likely go/went to paying salaries of coaches, facility upgrades, perks for the athletes etc
- however, as far as I am aware, RU has never run a campaign directly to “pay” coaches salaries
- NIL is an avenue of direct payment to the athletes

With that out of the way, I have no issue contributing to the school even if some portion goes to hot tubs and flat screen TVs for the athletes or salaries for coaches. However, I am sitting out NIL. I have college-aged kids (or very close) and any extra money I have will be going to their education not some other kid. When my kids are all done with school and grad school maybe I’ll look into it but that’s years down the road for me. At the same time, if people want to get into the NIL game they should.

 

[RUAldo]

Like I’ve said before, what bothers me is that most of these players would be attending county college if not for their athletic abilities and they don’t seem to care about the amazing opportunity to attend a great university for free. Admission and a schollie plus athletic benefits isn’t enough? Now they need to get paid on top of all that? Athletes should have to choose between a schollie or NIL…they should not get both.

 

[Scarlet83]

Like I’ve said before, what bothers me is that most of these players would be attending county college if not for their athletic abilities and they don’t seem to care about the amazing opportunity to attend a great university for free. Admission and a schollie plus athletic benefits isn’t enough? Now they need to get paid on top of all that? Athletes should have to choose between a schollie or NIL…they should not get both.

1) most of these athletes are a lot smarter and more driven to succeed than you give them credit for.
2) they are EXTREMELY appreciative of Rutgers and their opportunity to get a great education for free.
3) most of the Rutgers athletes that I know are getting KTR NIL have already graduated and are going for their masters degree.

 

[Geo_Baker_1]

Like I’ve said before, what bothers me is that most of these players would be attending county college if not for their athletic abilities and they don’t seem to care about the amazing opportunity to attend a great university for free. Admission and a schollie plus athletic benefits isn’t enough? Now they need to get paid on top of all that? Athletes should have to choose between a schollie or NIL…they should not get both.

What an ignorant statement