Running Back Question

DarkSide576

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Dashun Reeder had many carries against ULM. He has been seldom used in other games (yes, he had a notable run vs. Oregon). Why would the coaches choose not to use him more to spell CK, in lieu of Himon? Is it usually an issue of pass protection problems for first year running backs? Is he not able to catch the ball out the backfield?
 

Cool Cat

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Carries: Caleb-13, Reeder-11, Himon-2. I don't know if anything can be read from this. But Bruan did say that Lujan mentioned, immediately after the game, that they had to figure out a way to make Himon "happy." I hope they can adjust the offense to take advantage of Himon's amazing abilities. But it seems they want to use the bigger backs with multiple years of eligibility. This would effectively wash Himon out. I hope I'm wrong.
 

hdhntr1

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Carries: Caleb-13, Reeder-11, Himon-2. I don't know if anything can be read from this. But Bruan did say that Lujan mentioned, immediately after the game, that they had to figure out a way to make Himon "happy." I hope they can adjust the offense to take advantage of Himon's amazing abilities. But it seems they want to use the bigger backs with multiple years of eligibility. This would effectively wash Himon out. I hope I'm wrong.
I think Hinmon is listed as a RS Jr so he still has a year after this one
 

AdamOnFirst

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Not consistently utilizing Himon is a consistent major error Lujan makes. I’m still not sold on him as an every down back, though I’m more impressed by his ability to run between the tackles than I was at the start of the season, but he’s still a dynamic and impressive complimentary piece and even in a power oriented run game he needs to be getting a consistent set of carries and be getting the ball in other situations too. Lujan’s inability to get him the ball in space in a variety of basic ways is pretty bad.
 

Cool Cat

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Not consistently utilizing Himon is a consistent major error Lujan makes. I’m still not sold on him as an every down back, though I’m more impressed by his ability to run between the tackles than I was at the start of the season, but he’s still a dynamic and impressive complimentary piece and even in a power oriented run game he needs to be getting a consistent set of carries and be getting the ball in other situations too. Lujan’s inability to get him the ball in space in a variety of basic ways is pretty bad.
I agree that Himon should be utilized more. I noticed that he has looked good between the tackles. His skill-set brings some dynamic opportunities if you get him in space. The coaches recognize his strengths. But it seems that they have a philosophy of running in a phone booth and believe that the big backs give them a better chance at success. Sometimes good players don't fit what coaches want to do. I hope the year doesn't end with a mutual agreement to move on.
 
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TheC

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I do like that veteran players are not guaranteed anything. Reeder has made quite an impression these last two games. He hits the hole hard and has good speed. Not saying that Himon hasn't performed, but if Reeder has passed him by, then..... well, he should get more carries. Kofo has clearly moved ahead this season as RB #1.
 

Cool Cat

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I guess it's the nature of the beast. That's why the transfer portal is warranted. One team's trash could be another team's treasure.
 

Anon1751377188

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Carries: Caleb-13, Reeder-11, Himon-2. I don't know if anything can be read from this. But Bruan did say that Lujan mentioned, immediately after the game, that they had to figure out a way to make Himon "happy." I hope they can adjust the offense to take advantage of Himon's amazing abilities. But it seems they want to use the bigger backs with multiple years of eligibility. This would effectively wash Himon out. I hope I'm wrong.
Braun said Lujan told him they need to get the ball in Himon's hands more. Unless I missed it, there was no reference to making him "happy." It was in the context of adding productivity to the offense.
 

docrugby1

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NU has frequently ignored players with speed and big play ability, possibly because the OC's "hands were tied" Here are the initials of those players:
M, V, M, M, A,W, H
 

eastbaycat99

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Reeder has made quite an impression these last two games. He hits the hole hard and has good speed. Not saying that Himon hasn't performed, but if Reeder has passed him by, then..... well, he should get more carries. Kofo has clearly moved ahead this season as RB #1.
Reeder reminds me of Jeremy Larkin. I like that there is some depth in that position. I wish they would use more 2 back sets with Himon, shifting Himon to a slot some of the time or releasing him for a wheel route. Oregon runs a very effective short yardage (3rd and 3 or less) 2 back formation that uses a cross buck. NU has struggled in those situations.

I think having your best players on the field makes sense, and right now there is more talent at RB than at wideout.
 

Falcon86

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maybe saying “we need to get himon the ball more” is a smokescreen?

maybe his two touches in the last game are an indication that the coaching staff feels like he will be moving on next year?
 

Cool Cat

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maybe saying “we need to get himon the ball more” is a smokescreen?

maybe his two touches in the last game are an indication that the coaching staff feels like he will be moving on next year?
I have no idea what the coaching staff or Himon feels about his returning next season. But I would wager that his low utilization will be a determining factor. Sometimes moving on is in the best interests of both parties.
 

hdhntr1

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Reeder reminds me of Jeremy Larkin. I like that there is some depth in that position. I wish they would use more 2 back sets with Himon, shifting Himon to a slot some of the time or releasing him for a wheel route. Oregon runs a very effective short yardage (3rd and 3 or less) 2 back formation that uses a cross buck. NU has struggled in those situations.

I think having your best players on the field makes sense, and right now there is more talent at RB than at wideout.
We thought we were gonna see innovation with Lujan but so far,(1.5 years) hard to say we have seen much of any
 

phatcat_rivals223240

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Himon certainly is not trash or even close to it. I hope he stays, but with his a degree in hand, it wouldn’t shock me if he looked for an opportunity to be utilized more.
Seems like the obvious answer is to throw it to him (downfield) more often. I kinda remember him having a couple of drops tho
 

AdamOnFirst

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Reeder reminds me of Jeremy Larkin. I like that there is some depth in that position. I wish they would use more 2 back sets with Himon, shifting Himon to a slot some of the time or releasing him for a wheel route. Oregon runs a very effective short yardage (3rd and 3 or less) 2 back formation that uses a cross buck. NU has struggled in those situations.

I think having your best players on the field makes sense, and right now there is more talent at RB than at wideout.
Why we haven’t been running two back sets for years when we consistently have some actually quality backs and just horrible other skill players is beyond me. Heck, run some basic air raid split back 20 personal stuff.
 

phatcat_rivals223240

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Why we haven’t been running two back sets for years when we consistently have some actually quality backs and just horrible other skill players is beyond me. Heck, run some basic air raid split back 20 personal stuff.
Komo had the first 100 yard game since Evan Hull. So...perhaps not
 

docrugby1

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I would agree on all except Mark. I think he got all the touches his physique could handle. Eventually he did get hurt.
He was a WR for 2 years. His HS team was featured on ESPN and I could not believe he was going to NU. Eventually NU switched him to back to RB and paired him with Colter producing an exciting offense- an offense that I hope NU can resurrect
 
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hdhntr1

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Mark, Vault, Moten, McGowan, Azema, Washington, Himon
Mark was used a ton, You have to remember that as running back, they have to be able to block and protect the QB (and catch the ball coming out of the backfield) I would guess a couple of the others did not get as much of an opportunity as you would have liked for that reason. It is often how they fit into the whole system and if you have the assets around them to make them effective, Sometimes the weakness in OL or QBs meant certain backs or receivers could not be utilized effectively.
 
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AdamOnFirst

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Mark was used a ton, You have to remember that as running back, they have to be able to block and protect the QB (and catch the ball coming out of the backfield) I would guess a couple of the others did not get as much of an opportunity as you would have liked for that reason. Sometimes the weakness in OL meant certain backs were not best suited
It's also a dumb list. Mark was an All American and star player as a RB and only left when he decided to transfer home. McGowan and Washington were underutilized because we didn't have a QB who could get them the ball plus just an incompetent passing philosophy in general. Himon is a complimentary player who we're getting better at utilizing multiple ways. Azema was a star safety who was fully utilized when healthy. John Moten? Ok, I guess, but he wasn't some burner nor particularly good. Vault? Yes, that's the one fair example of a guy we never figured out how to use, though he was also a classic guy who basically had no schools beyond speed.
 
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DarkSide576

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It's also a dumb list. Mark was an All American and star player as a RB and only left when he decided to transfer home. McGowan and Washington were underutilized because we didn't have a QB who could get them the ball plus just an incompetent passing philosophy in general. Himon is a complimentary player who we're getting better at utilizing multiple ways. Azema was a star safety who was fully utilized when healthy. John Moten? Ok, I guess, but he wasn't some burner nor particularly good. Vault? Yes, that's the one fair example of a guy we never figured out how to use, though he was also a classic guy who basically had no schools beyond speed.
I still contend we never got the full story with why Venric Mark left Northwestern one course short of a degree. He was from Tomball, Texas which is nearly a 9 hour car ride from West Texas A&M University where he ended up. As far as I am concerned, for someone who wanted to be closer to home, there were several other D1 universities that are closer to Tomball. Does anyone know the real story?
 
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docrugby1

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It's also a dumb list. Mark was an All American and star player as a RB and only left when he decided to transfer home. McGowan and Washington were underutilized because we didn't have a QB who could get them the ball plus just an incompetent passing philosophy in general. Himon is a complimentary player who we're getting better at utilizing multiple ways. Azema was a star safety who was fully utilized when healthy. John Moten? Ok, I guess, but he wasn't some burner nor particularly good. Vault? Yes, that's the one fair example of a guy we never figured out how to use, though he was also a classic guy who basically had no schools beyond speed.
I am sorry my dumb list offended you.
Mark-dynamic HS school RB that was invisible at NU until he was returned to RB and paired with Colter. He left NU for reasons other than homesickness and later returned to get his degree
Vault-unusual speed for an NU player that our board experts said his HS game films were doctored. NU never utilized his speed much like Himon now
Moten-not fast? Former sprint champion that left Ohio State's 5* DBs in the dust on a long. TD run in the B1G Championship Game
McGowan/Washington-you actually agreed that NU did not utilize them
Azema-a valuable DB but he demonstrated his exceptional RB skills against Illinois
Himon-a true threat in the open field but rarely featured in plays that might exploit his elusiveness
 
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techtim72

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It would be interesting to understand what the coaches thought about each of these players relative to ball security. Put the ball on the ground at NU and you won't see the field for a long time.
 
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Deeringfish

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I actually think Himon has lost a step but is more powerful than before. Reeder isn't a surprise anymore so he is less effective and not the blocker the other backs are.
I like that they are splitting snaps because I'm a big believer that fatigue leads to injury.
 
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