Run the ball guy
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Keep getting better in redzone TD percentage and then those stats will only keep getting better.
Frost is figuring out the benefits of a good rushing attack this season and even working on the option more in practice than any other season he has been here at Nebraska. This is a good sign he is learning and adjusting to what works at Nebraska.
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I know y’all like ganging up on this guy and can’t handle his opinion but he’s not wrong. There have been some new wrinkles and changes.
I know y’all like ganging up on this guy and can’t handle his opinion but he’s not wrong. There have been some new wrinkles and changes.
Maybe it's because somehow the OLine is starting to come around? Hell, I don't know. But I sure hope so!!
they tried left coast pass happy ball for 20 years. no conference championships.
frost may of found some option left coast hybrid. that suits the players he has, takes pressure of martinez,
makes us less one dimensional. michigan will be tough, but it ain't like they been kicking osu for 10 years, so lets not make them bama
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He's wrong just about every time he starts strumming his keyboard. NOBODY thinks we shouldn't run the ball. He thinks we have to go back to the Osborne "triple option" offense to have any success. There's maybe only one other poster on this board who is so sure that he's right all the time who is so wrong so often.
I hear what you’re saying, but I’m not sure I’ve seen anyone flip-flop as much as this guy, which is why he gets so much grief. 2 weeks ago we were all Frost lovers and Frost is a dead man walking. Actually, only 6 days ago that was still the case. Frost was maybe only going to win one more game the rest of the season.
Now, not only is Frost going to stay, he’s possibly going to win them all. The colossal amount of flip-flopping is too huge to ignore.
LOL. Haters will hate because I am RIGHT. The reason I can change my tune is due to being RIGHT about what Frost needed to do and he is starting to do exactly what I said he needed to be doing.
We ****. We should have had Coach Frost consult you, what the **** were we thinking.
HAHAHAHAHA well when you turn 180s you will always be right.
You act like he changed his entire offensive philosophy. They only ran the ball 3 more times than they ran against Michigan St. They ran the ball 15 more times than they ran against OU, in large part because they had a huge lead against NW and stopped throwing the ball.
Taking credit for being right is a little much, considering the opponent. IF Nebraska is able to push Michigan off the line and put up the offensive numbers they put up against NW great. But this is a one game sample, where the biggest change was personnel.
I'm pretty sure he'll be facing the DL and LB's in this game rather than LB's and DB's. This isn't the Northwestern defense. A performance sample of just one game isn't enough to sell me on a repeat considering the difference in teams we're facing.
I'd like to beleive it but I just don't see it..
Hopefully I'm wrong here..
If he can get to the second level, he will be a problem for any defense. Michigan DL will be as good or better than any they've faced. But I liked what they did with the running game, by hitting all facets and motioning players. I don't think we run for 450 but I think we'll have some success.
don't forget the claim that option has not been the base run scheme of the offense until recently
we've been the most option-heavy rushing attack in the b1g since Frost got here, and there's not even a close 2nd.
But we are waiting to see how they handle him. Quick feet plus a nice stiff arm are pluses for a big guy like him. Worth extra yards on every carry.
compared to Dr. Tom, yes sir...yes indeedy
and throw in callahan and riley..
but that's ok, many have gone astray, so starting today, we need to do things the right way.
run da ball
Again the run pass ratio was more indicative of opponent quality than it was concerted effort at getting back to Osborne style football.
Osborne would not have thrown north of 20 passes in a 56-7 blowout, for starters.
well I'm ok with running the ball in direct correlation to our qb's arm..
if'n we out recruit everyone to get the next joe montana on up in here, I'm ok with passing more
if'n we have a qb named martinez, I'm ok with running more
it's all bout discernment.
if we can get marino duper and clayton here, I'm all bout the pass happy..
but if we have more a run/pass qb..I'm more about running..
it takes pressure off the qb...
I’d like see Martinez scramble yardage pulled out. If you subtract that I would guess our true rushing production would not be near as gaudy. Planned runs are one thing. A QB running for his life is not true rushing production in my mind.
So if a QB evades defenders and make yards on a scramble, it should count, but if an RB bounces an inside run outside (not a "planned" outside run) and evades defenders to make yardage, it should?
Ok, Tim I understand what you’re saying, but none of this is really relevant to what I said. He‘s right and people seem to get in a tizzy no matter what he says, even when he’s not “flip flopping”. It started even before he flip-flopped.
Dingle, he’s entitled to his opinion and anyone is entitled to think he’s wrong, but I dunno why people get all butthurt about it and gang up on him and call him crazy simply because he wants a different offense and style. Its not like he’s saying we need to sacrifice children.
But I digress…
That isn’t what you have been babbling for the last few weeks. You want an Osborne running attack. 80/20. That is what you wrote. You also indicated you were tired of the pass happy schemes, and you definition of pass happy was anything other than what Osborne ran.
the passing game in Frost’s scheme is plenty effective
The issue is that he makes it so easy. Even in the post just above this he all but takes credit for Nebraska running more option. Why shouldn’t we take shots at the guy?
Edit: I know, I could just grow up a little…
If NU has a 50/50 run pass ratio and beats Meatchicken, I'll be fine with that. I'll be fine with whatever ratio produces the win. The run game worked well for a game and that gave the kids confidence. Way better than another ****** outing and having to hope it shows up against the Wolverines.
Who gives a ****? Milton won’t make it to the league and Mariota was a below average pro. Yet Frost was able to win double digit games with those guys.
you don’t need an nfl QB to win college games and have an effective passing game.
pass happy NU fan says: "we can't recruit the option, kids want a pass happy system to get to the nfl!"
Can you quote me on that? Not sure I have ever said that. First of all I don’t think the offense is pass happy. I may have written that you will not get it quarterback that can throw the ball very well and if what you want to run is strictly option 80% running the ball offense. And I have definitely written that you will not get the wide receivers you’ve gotten the last few years if you don’t throw the ball.
I know for a fact they didn’t get their top recruit at QB in 2021 because Martinez was running the ball too much.
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Hell, some QB's put up very good numbers in college yet fail in the NFL. NFL quality QB's are far from necessary at the college level.
My concern is getting him to the second level of the defense. Our line play was outstanding against Northwestern but it's not enough to sway my opinion that this will be the norm until they prove it's the norm. I fully expect some whiffs on Saturday from our line that will put us in to a difficult position to win.
do you think martinez will end up at the patriots or tampa bay?
lol
I guess what I'm saying is we won 3 NC's in 4 years running dr. Tom offense
(I don't count solich cause solich made us 1 dimensional because dan and buck fumbled alot, so it was crouch left, crouch right, lord left, lord right (crouch and lord should get an award for toughness).
enter bill c. he actually was the best pass happy we had, because he had ganz, and porkchop.
and since then I have watched qb's named martinez who are not designed for pass happy.
I think the best we have done since pass happy bill c. is a holiday bowl whale trophy....
so I ask myself whats better? 3 NC's in 4 years
or a holiday bowl whale trophy since billy c?
so I ask for a return to Dr. Tom's offense...but understanding negotiations, I understand that I may not get all I want, and have to give some........so now we see frost is giving some working on the option....so I'm ok with that....it beats watching martinez throwing an expected swing pass...