Rough week for the markets...
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Why do you care? You live paycheck to paycheck hoping the government increases your lot in life.
Too much good economic news drives the market down. Makes no sense, but I guess they will begin raising interest rates so money will flow out of the market toward CDs and such is what I hear.
lol. someone's upset the nunes memo was a dud.
Market still unbelievably up since beginning of year. Tax cuts are now kicking in. America is truly becoming great again!
And now Trump just took down the FBI and DNC/Hillary in one fell swoop. Folks, this is glorious!
You are the party of Maxine waters, Nancy Pelosi, and Crying Chuck Schumer. They’re all pretty upset, so why aren’t you?
Maybe you haven’t reached their level of estrogen yet, but you’re well on your way.
The fact that people like you, who I can only imagine considers themselves "patriots" and "law and order" supporters, can find so much joy and "glory" in the belittling of our institutions really baffles me. How does undermining our justice department and elite law enforcement officials assist our country in becoming "truly great again?" Doesn't it just add to the instability of our nation? Isn't that exactly what Putin wants?
Anyways I'll hang up and listen, thanks!
Consumers spending more money...companies raise prices...inflation increases...government raises interest rates. All domino effect speculation. Inevitable really. Everything will be fine
Another well put-together, articulate, and cogent argument. And you wonder why the dems have become the party of intellectuals?
I don’t think @dbjork6317 is some fervent conservative. He was probs just making fun of you attempting to rationalize the irrational ( @tigerpride2 )
Really?? That memo was the biggest nothing I have read in a long time. What a disappointment. I was expecting a smoking gun. Read more like a partisan whiny rant. I am sure the other side's memo will be the same.
I can't answer for tigerpride, but for your information I am a patriot and damn proud of it. No one is tearing down any institutions, but when political hacks are placed in prominent positions at the FBI by the Obama administration to do their bidding that is wrong. The whole thing stinks reminds me of when Obama used IRS to go after conservative groups. He or his administration had no shame.
Is this a joke? I'm an independent but I know that the Democrats are the party of the lazy and dependent.
What’s wrong with this?
Asking for friend of a friend
Yes, here is an American who cares about doing what is right. Thanks, tigergray.
Hardly
The real word on the trading floor is the FBI and the political unrest that is at a staggering level. This is the elephant in the room that Wall Street numb nuts will not bring up with the media nor their investors. It can not be discussed. Believe me this is the truth., and not fake news.
The IRS went after liberal groups too, not just conservative groups. I did miss the reporting that Obama directed the IRS hits, but I don’t care enough to research that now as it doesn’t matter any more.
An institution deserves to be belittled that uses unethical espionage and an extreme abuse of power in an attempt to sway an election at the bidding of one party.
Thank God that Trump won so that all this could come to light.
Several heads have rolled. More will roll. This is tip of the iceberg.
Tick tock, mutherfockers. Checkmate.
And the republicans have become the party of achievers. Every earning group over $50K per year voted for Trump.
How are these groups defined? Some stereotypical democrat-voting groups that earn over $50k would be movie actors, scientists, college professors, trial lawyers, maybe PhDs in general.
Yes thats true, but still was close to a 50/50 split. Trump got 1% more than Clinton with the $100-$199.
See the charts just above. And the $200K+ crowd also went to trump.
Unsurprising that folks who spend their life in education instead of business lean left.
Equally unsurprising is how out of touch actors are.
Small business owners, high earning professionals, etc lean hard right. Happy to call them my peers.
Small business owners, high earning professionals, etc lean hard right. Happy to call them my peers.
I am one of those and I do not lean hard right. I have many, many friends and colleagues, and fellow business owners that are the same. By the way... how come every time someone easily refutes your nonsense you never respond to them (or you claim you were just "trolling"). You are one simple dude.
What nonsense?
Are you referring to my recent post about Apple repatriating $250+ billion and investing $350 billion more partially thanks to Trumps tax bill?
Maybe the fact that hardworking folks like my family are saving 5 figures on their tax bill this year?
Yep, total nonsense.
And if you think I'm serious with all of my posts and not "trolling," just read the dinosaur thread...
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I don't give a crap who is in charge, but there should never, ever be an instance where the FBI should be able to take information to a FISA court to justify spying on an American citizen when this information was provided by the opposing political party. Honestly, it is not that they were able to do that that is the biggest the problem. It is that they would do it at all. We allow the FBI, CIA etc. to operate in relative secrecy because there is the assumption that the truth and lack of even the appearance of impropriety is prioritized above everything else. What the past and current leaders of the DOJ and the FBI have done by allowing political bias to reign over truth and justice have caused potentially huge problems going forward in the ability of the American public to trust these organizations with so little oversight.
The FBI basically took made up information from one political party about a member of another political party and accepted it as fact without even vetting/corroborating the information. That right there is beyond troubling and should infuriate ALL Americans. Then going a step further, they used this false information they did not corroborate from a political enemy to justify unconstitutionally spying on an American citizen to a FISA court.
I am going to stop right here and put in a slight disclaimer. We have not yet seen the supporting documents related to the information in the memo that was released. I hope in the very near future we will be able to see the supporting documents in the FISA application and be provided the transcript of the congressional testimony of Sr FBI officials that told congress that the FISA application would not have been submitted and certainly not approved without the dossier paid for by the Clinton campaign and the DNC. The FBI has already stated that there is nothing in the memo that is not factually accurate (including the fact that there would have never been another FISA application submitted(after the first one had been denied a few months earlier) without the dossier. Still, many Americans are sheeple people and believe what the majority of the media is telling them which is complete BS. The release of the supporting documents removes all doubt and proves what the memo implies/states.
For people who are not blind and stupid, this is just another piece of evidence in a long list of the blatant political bias in the recent leadership in the DOJ, the FBI, IRS, etc. I have zero problem with people holding political views, how can you not. The problem comes when you allow those views to impact your actions. In what world would Loretta lynch be allowed to meet(in secret) with Bill Clinton while HRC is being investigated. In what world would FBI director Comey tell the POTUS that the dossier was "salacious and unverified" after using it months prior to obtain a FISA warrant.
If none of this bothers you, there is something seriously wrong with you. Can you imagine if the Trump campaign had paid for "information" largely gotten from a former foreign spy who was on record as being desperate to keep HRC from becoming president and then used it to spy on the HRC camp? The media would be in full meltdown and be calling for the disbanding of the FBI and impeachment of TRUMP. Yet somehow there has been no outrage. Only further circling of the wagons around anything that could hurt their political party. It really is astonishing to see the media rail against transparency when that is(or should be) their primary purpose.
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It is obvious why the media (and Democrats) didn’t want the memo to come out. It 100% legitimizes Trump’s presidency and destroys the Russian collusion hoax. In fact, it actually shows that Hillary colluded with the Russians to generate this dossier that was used by FBI to spy on Trump and sway an election.
It also shows that Trump was right last year when he said he was spied on by Obama administration. Remember when the media hyperventilated after he made that claim?
No, it doesnt. not at all. you should stop getting your information from fake russian bot accounts.
I don't think HRC colluded with Russia to sway the election. She colluded with Sr officials at the DOJ and FBI to sway the election. Honestly, if they could wrap up the Trump/Russia collusion investigation in the next six months, I would rather them finish it. Nothing is going to come of it. There has been no evidence of collusion to sway the election between Trump and Russia. The closest thing they say they have found is a meeting between Trump Jr. and someone from Russia to try and get dirt on HRC. We KNOW that HRC and the DNC paid a former foreign spy who hated Trump to try and dig up dirt on Trump. This is how the dossier was created. In any case, I would rather the investigation get done so the country can move on from this ridiculousness. Of course, when it is done and they find there was no collusion, the Dems will say Mueller was a republican and was working with Trump all along, but at least it will be done.
The biggest problem for me is not really about Trump. It is how it was possible for the head of the DOJ and FBI to blatantly engage in partisan politics. It is one thing to tend to back the current administration, it is entirely something else to use false unverified info to unconstitutionally spy on an American citizen in an attempt to dig up dirt on a political opponent. To get a FISA warrant, you basically have to show evidence that person is working as a foreign operative. There was no evidence Page was doing that. Even now, after the warrant has been issued there is obviously no evidence that is the case. Do you think if they had any real evidence Page was a foreign spy they would not have arrested him by now? It's not like it is a secret they are surveilling him. At this point there would be absolutely no reason not to arrest him if there was one shred of evidence against him(or Trump).
Forget it man. They’re not interested in the truth, just power and control. Look at the inner city. Modern day plantations and they have them voting 98% democrat. Psychological slavery of an entire race. This is their endgame.