Roster question

[Jake1985]

With all 5 starters expected to enter the draft, is Bolden the only other one on the roster in question?

Bolden
To me, he wants to be there and has the physical tools to get there, but it's just putting it all together. It's been stated on here before that most guess he's 50/50 about entering, but a better plan would be to continue to develop. As we all know the most logical plan isn't always the path chosen.

Javin
Physcial tools and work ethic but def needs to refine skills offensively. I can't see this at all.

 

[Tross282003]

With all 5 starters expected to enter the draft, is Bolden the only other one on the roster in question?

Bolden
To me, he wants to be there and has the physical tools to get there, but it's just putting it all together. It's been stated on here before that most guess he's 50/50 about entering, but a better plan would be to continue to develop. As we all know the most logical plan isn't always the path chosen.

Javin
Physcial tools and work ethic but def needs to refine skills offensively. I can't see this at all.

If I were Bolden, I would stay another year. We have no bigs in this class. He has more upside than Javin IMHO. His options are transfer, sit out a year or go second round or undrafted and right to the D league.

Javin is great althete playing basketball. Needs to be able to hit the ten foot jumper and develop some post moves and get a little stronger. Javin is not a center or an overpowering power forward. He has issues guarding bigger players in the post.

 

[Showenuff]

Javins got a couple things to work on yet, like, not killing his teammates.

 

[pisgah101]

Gary is expected?

 

[sheyduke]

Gary is expected?

I don’t see him staying two years.

He’s been on draft boards.

 

[dukesince91]

Gary's about to blow up in a good way

 

[pisgah101]

I don’t see him staying two years.

He’s been on draft boards.

I haven't even looked! Thanks

 

[sheyduke]

I haven't even looked! Thanks

On a side note, “ so I don’t get ridiculed!” Some thinks he stays.

“ IMO” I don’t see him staying due to Reddish and Barret coming.

 

[hpnole]

If I were Bolden, I would stay another year. We have no bigs in this class. He has more upside than Javin IMHO. His options are transfer, sit out a year or go second round or undrafted and right to the D league.

Javin is great althete playing basketball. Needs to be able to hit the ten foot jumper and develop some post moves and get a little stronger. Javin is not a center or an overpowering power forward. He has issues guarding bigger players in the post.

I really hope that Bolden gets more pt . I would be surprised to see him come back next year if he doesn't, He us too good to sit on the bench. I had really hoped to see him more.

 

[Tross282003]

I really hope that Bolden gets more pt . I would be surprised to see him come back next year if he doesn't, He us too good to sit on the bench. I had really hoped to see him more.

I think he will be back. His only competition for playing time next year is Javin and they can play together. We have depth issues at the center and power forward next year.

Our starting 5 is gone next year it would be a huge mistake if he leaves. He will start next year most likely and play more than 25 minutes per game.

 

[DukeDenver]

Javin has no passing ability and today’s NBA doesn’t have room for ball stoppers. Look at how Melo is ruining OKC. He also needs another move on defense besides jumping and swatting hard with one arm.

Bolden is still too slow to do simple things. He’ll get eaten alive in even the D League.

Now is the time for both guys to try and improve. Both can break out because they are thinkers and have NBA measurables. I know each guy has been working hard too. It comes down to putting in the reps and building muscle memory. Developing awareness is difficult, but can be done if you’re open to criticism.

 

[df64]

I think Javin has shown pretty good interior passing skills. He is also pretty good at passing from the high post to the low post, especially for a guy who got almost no burn last year and irregular minutes this year. I agree that he definitely needs to work on what to do with the ball when he is on the perimeter.

I think Bolden would be nuts to leave this year. If Trent comes back, he and RJ play 2/3, Reddish plays a lot of 4, some 3 and maybe even some PG when Jones goes out and this team plays like a bigger version of this year's Gators. We would see some serious "positionless" basketball.

 

[nets on nets on nets]

I think both Bolden and Javin come back. Personally, I think Javin's NBA ceiling is much higher than Bolden's, but Javin has a LONNNNGGG way to go. Learning how to dribble consistently and make a jumpshot would be a good starting point, every other box he checks off though. Plus in the NBA, if your not a superstar, being a 3 and D guy is the next best thing- that is Javin's calling card. Has the D, needs the 3.

All 5 starters are gone, I would assume Bolden is a lock at the 5 if he comes back (and we don't land another Bagley last minute.) Javin very well could play the 4, but it appears Reddish is the PERFECT 4-man for the offense K traditionally runs. Couldn't be a better fit, so I still think Javin may come off the bench as an energy guy, who knows though.

 

[sheyduke]

I think Bolden comes back as well. He has a lot of learning to do to play at this level but he has the tools. Like Denver said,he still has a slow reaction to playing at this level.

Javin, his offense will come but he also has the tools. They both will be upperclassmen next season and have the chance to start.

Not that I know , but Bolden looks like he’s always listening to the other players on the floor and is taking responsibility when he takes a play off. A third year working on his speed and offense could do wonders for him.

 

[DukeDenver]

I think Javin has shown pretty good interior passing skills. He is also pretty good at passing from the high post to the low post, especially for a guy who got almost no burn last year and irregular minutes this year. I agree that he definitely needs to work on what to do with the ball when he is on the perimeter.

I’ll have to give him another look. I always find myself worrying about turnovers when Jav has the ball in a non alley oop situation.

 

[Dattier]

Not that I know , but Bolden looks like he’s always listening to the other players on the floor and is taking responsibility when he takes a play off. A third year working on his speed and offense could do wonders for him.

Not that anyone else knew last year, but it didn't stop some of us from bashing his work ethic, character, and heart.

I've noticed the same thing about his attentiveness and earnestness. I get the impression from interviews that he won't be in a rush to go early as some predetermined decision.

 

[nets on nets on nets]

Tre
Alex
RJ
Cam
Bolden
-this would be my way too early starting 5 for next year. Think K chooses to go the stretch 4 route with Cam rather than squeezing in Javin. Huge Javin fan here, but having Javin Bolden at the 4/5 could be a disaster in half court offense. Javin would be the best player in the country off the bench.

 

[Jake1985]

That starting 5 would be very good and very much "Duke like". Javin off the bench and Vrank when needed too.

I don't like looking into the future but for next year to be successful, my keys are:
Jack- can be supplement as the stretch 4?
Jordan G- will be be able to give 10 minutes per game
Jordan T- will he be able to contribute meaningful minutes as a scorer off the bench.

 

[Tross282003]

Bolden should come back.

Tre
Alex
RJ
Cam
Bolden
-this would be my way too early starting 5 for next year. Think K chooses to go the stretch 4 route with Cam rather than squeezing in Javin. Huge Javin fan here, but having Javin Bolden at the 4/5 could be a disaster in half court offense. Javin would be the best player in the country off the bench.

I agree it seems logical. I am not sure how good Alex O will be next year. Javin is kinda of an eginma from an offensive skill standpoint. Short bench again next year it seems.

 

[df64]

I think one thing that some are overlooking with Javin is that he makes pretty good cuts to the basket without the ball. If he is playing the 5 next year, that should make him pretty effective with Tre, RJ, and Cam on the floor. Nobody will be clogging the middle and those guys should be great at really spreading the floor. Whoever the 4th or 5th options are for Duke next year, they should be getting some pretty good looks at the rim.

 

[nets on nets on nets]

I think one thing that some are overlooking with Javin is that he makes pretty good cuts to the basket without the ball. If he is playing the 5 next year, that should make him pretty effective with Tre, RJ, and Cam on the floor. Nobody will be clogging the middle and those guys should be great at really spreading the floor. Whoever the 4th or 5th options are for Duke next year, they should be getting some pretty good looks at the rim.

Playing Javin at the 5 would 100% be the most effective/efficient offense. We would get destroyed on the glass though, and then there's always the defensive question marks we seem to face.
Bolden at the 5 definitely makes the most sense from a rebounding/defense standpoint. Bolden at the 5 and Cam at the 4 should still make for a great offense, and we would have a much better rebounding edge than with Javin at the 5.

 

[dukiejay]

That starting 5 would be very good and very much "Duke like". Javin off the bench and Vrank when needed too.

I don't like looking into the future but for next year to be successful, my keys are:
Jack- can be supplement as the stretch 4?
Jordan G- will be be able to give 10 minutes per game
Jordan T- will he be able to contribute meaningful minutes as a scorer off the bench.

I’m cheering for Jack and want him to be that guy. Truthfully, I just don’t see it.

Goldwire I think will see similar minutes to this season. Next year he’ll be the best option at backup point guard, so that may result in a bit more prominent role. This year as the third option he’s only likely to play when it’s stealing minutes or because of injury.

Tucker is the kid who I think has the most potential to go from playing a little to having a much larger role.

 

[Jake1985]

I think that one of Jack, Jordan T or heck even JRob will need to surprise and be that stretch 4 guy who can shoot the ball.

Wouldn't mind seeing
Bolden at the 5, then sub Booden for Javin and Vrank a bit. Those guys all at the 5 would all benefit from a stretch 4 offensively, but defensively someone who also can defend a bug in the paint.
So the 4 could be Cam when small the on Javin when traditional or Jack, JRob or Tucker as the stretch 4. Not saying any of those guys can or will fill that role, but that's what Duke could really use.

 

[Tross282003]

I’m cheering for Jack and want him to be that guy. Truthfully, I just don’t see it.

Goldwire I think will see similar minutes to this season. Next year he’ll be the best option at backup point guard, so that may result in a bit more prominent role. This year as the third option he’s only likely to play when it’s stealing minutes or because of injury.

Tucker is the kid who I think has the most potential to go from playing a little to having a much larger role.

A plethora of wings next year. Goldwire I agree with. Vrank and Jack don’t seem to fit with this year’s team or next year’s team. Jack seems slow and stiff and Vrank’s game is a little dated. He is a Zoubeck like player. Seems to clog the lane too much on offense and foul too much on defense.

Alex O I am not sold on yet against major competition needs 10 to 15 more pounds. Jordan Tucker can shot and is physically mature, but gets no burn.

I wish Gary Trent jr would come back for another year. But that probably won’t happen.

 

[roshown mcleod 95]

I’m cheering for Jack and want him to be that guy. Truthfully, I just don’t see it.

Goldwire I think will see similar minutes to this season. Next year he’ll be the best option at backup point guard, so that may result in a bit more prominent role. This year as the third option he’s only likely to play when it’s stealing minutes or because of injury.

Tucker is the kid who I think has the most potential to go from playing a little to having a much larger role.

If he would put on 10to15lbs of muscle, work on ball-handling skills, the potential is there

 

[Duke937]

People on here crack me up when they talk about Bolden. He’s played so much better this year, he’s finally healthy it seems. But that basically put him a year behind. But none the less, I love the effort he’s put into this year.

But then you’ll read how unhappy people are he didn’t play much late in games. He needs to be out there more. You realize he’s playing behind 2 of the best bigs in the country? 2 lottery picks? They’re 3 steps faster than him. He can’t keep up with Bagley and Carter right now. And when you’re in close games late against tough opponents like they have been half of the season so far, he has no business being out there.

I hope he comes back. He should. I’d love to see how he progresses in year 3.

 

[Liftee]

The best thing is there are several players who can continue to improve this season, and with a lot of hard work can win themselves a lot of playing time for next season. AOC, Bolden, Javin, Tucker, they all have the potential for making a big move up the ladder. Most other teams have guys rated let's say 30th to 80th who become stars, no reason Duke can't do the same thing. Very UNC-like without the cheating.