He is hearing sweat will go pro. I dunno if I believe that, seeing as how rosebowl hasn’t had any good info whatsoever the past few months on things happening at State.
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Brandon Walker indicated the same on his podcast Monday. If he gets a round 1 or round 2 evaluation, he needs to declare for the draft.
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I'm afraid he's going to be viewed as somewhat of a tweener, which will keep him from getting drafted high enough to make it worth leaving early. He's a hair undersized for an every-down NFL DE, and I don't think he showed enough of the versatility necessary for an NFL OLB since he played mostly up on the line with his hand on the ground this year. The tweener types have a place in the NFL, they just don't typically do great as early entries.
In my uneducated opinion, he needs to come back and show either that he can produce in the SEC as a true 4-3 DE, or that he's flexible enough to play OLB in multiple defenses.
If he goes congrats and thanks for this season. I think he needs to gain a good bit of weight before the NFL, he will get manhandled at his current size.
The good news here is that BW and SR likely get the info from the same source so it’s fewer people who have to be wrong. I really hope he stays.
On this, I have no source
I don't think I said he's leaving, at least I didn't mean to. I think with his skill and talent and production, it makes a lot of sense for him to leave.
I haven't talked to anybody about this particular subject, but I do want him back. If Steve is saying he's heard it, though, then somebody is saying it.
I don't think I said he's leaving, at least I didn't mean to. I think with his skill and talent and production, it makes a lot of sense for him to leave.
I haven't talked to anybody about this particular subject, but I do want him back. If Steve is saying he's heard it, though, then somebody is saying it.
It's pretty simple, unless there are extenuating circumstances, if he received a 1st or 2nd round grade, he should go pro. If he received a "neither", he should return to school.
He doesn't have the "look" of an NFL defensive end from a muscular developed standpoint ... he looks a lot leaner than Preston Smith.... he needs put on more muscle, or he could be a situational type pass rusher...
Exactly, no way is he an everydown player in the league right now, and if you’re not an everydown player, you’re not getting drafted in the first 2 or 3 rounds. No offense to him, but teams like the titans would run towards him every play he’s on the field, and they would succeed.
I view Sweat in the same light as Preston Brown. I think Sweat can play that Hybrid LB/DE position. He runs pretty good IMO and has a nose for the ball.
Smith was 271 at the combine. Sweat is 241. Not sure how much weight Sweat can add at this point though. Sweat may be one of those guys who is a great college player, but not an NFL player. Or he could be a 3rd specialist, but is he fast enough at that size? Scouts are definitely going to be worried about is he big enough to stop the run in the NFL.
Other than letting folks know he was really worried about Mullen leaving, letting us know Lovett and James Williams had OM working the situation for months what has Rosebowl been wrong about?
Bear's problem can't be blamed totally on leaving early. He evidently believed be was exempt from certain laws in the State of MS
It's not that hard to put on 35 pounds in a summer IF you really hit the gym...
Not sure if serious, so forgive me if you’re being sarcastic...but 35 clean lbs during an off season is impossible. Hell 35 lbs of McDonald’s would be tough.
Pass Rush specialists play 3rd downs mostly and absolutely do get drafted in the top 2 rounds if they are elite. Sweat is elite. Needs to add some weight but that can be done before the combine and needs to learn to use length a little better making sure to get hands up for pass block. I think he has more upside than the QB from OU. Fletcher Cox wasn't an every down player initially in the NFL. He was a pass rushing specialist.
Ah, gotcha. I didn’t think he was serious, but ya never know with the internet. I didn’t recognize the image.
Fletcher cox wasn’t drafted at #13 as a pass rushing specialist, come on now. He was ready day one, projects are not drafted in the first round, much less top 15.
Chris jones was drafted in the 3rd round, not as a project or specialist. That should tell you something.
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You are comparing apples and oranges Chris Jones was drafted 37th which is early 2nd down and he is a DT. I think Sweat gets drafted in the 3rd round because there are a lot of idiots that don't watch film and whoever drafts him gets 1st round talent. He won't be overnight success but in year 3 he will be a playmaker. He is similar size as demarcus ware and will play similar position as a hybrid DE/LB. aka a rush specialists. Teams value them a lot these days. top 10 DEs all get drafted in the top 3 rounds. pretty sure someone will take the SEC sack leader in the top 3 rounds.
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Chris Jones was drafted in the beginning of the second round, not the third.
Don't you think he would be playing next to someone with equal or better talent than Jeffrey in the NFL?
Ahh, my fault. Dunno why I was thinkin 3rd round. Maybe thinking of someone else.
I think sweat is elite, but in my unprofessional opinion, I think he could make a lot more money by staying another year. Just adding 20 lbs I think will help his stock, and he would be pre season all SEC and him and Simmons will be getting all types of publicity.
I cannot see any circumstances under which Sweat has graded as high as Brown. Brown was bigger and more complete as a player at the same stage.
watch the good nfl defenses and how they utilize personnel groups. They use some players specifically for the purpose of getting to the QB in passing downs and want to keep them fresh throughout the game. He will play OLB/DE on passing downs early in his career. He won't be playing as a down lineman like many of the players that you guys are comparing him to
And there are a bunch of DEs in this draft that can play right now, and not situationally...which is why he won’t get drafted early.
He isn't a defensive end. He is a hybrid and he will slowly be worked into a rotation just like most 3rd rounders are. feel free to bookmark my post if you want to address this next year or in 2020 if he decides to stay
I’m not disagreeing with that, if he’s taken in the 3rd round.
My point is if he stays, he could work his way into the first or early second round.
I love Brandon's show, but I think one of his main info sources is Rosey
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