Rooting against Frost

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It’s okay to be both. Rooting for him to succeed….and question why he still has a gig @ Nebraska. Doesn’t make you a bad fan.
 

HuskerBruce81

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When we were tied going into the 4th I wasn't rooting for them to lose but I didn't care anymore. I'm looking at the schedule and there are absolutely no guaranteed wins on it. Can't say I ever said that after game 2
 

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Week 1 of the off-season and the hype train is right back on schedule

love it!!

frost should be calling all plays on offense, defense and special teams from here on out!! Just need to gel! LFGBR!!!
 

realHuskerDrew

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We are so pathetic, I couldn’t really even watch the second half, it was too boring and inconsequential….
How’s that for the state of the program?

Non “blue blood”, no history non football schools don’t even keep coaches after three straight losing years and here we are in year 5 squeezing by a 1AA school.

We don’t need to root for us to lose, Frost has that down pat.
 
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I think the overwhelming majority want Frost to succeed (especially when he first came here). But the only one can do this is Frost and time is running out. Beat up the teams you’re supposed to. Get the team inspired to win a game that nobody thinks we can win!

And that has been the frustration for me. He can never get this team to rise to the occasion especially during close games against good competition. Time and again, we look sloppy, make stupid mistakes, and fold when the game is on the line.

That tells me he is failing during practice. It’s the tiny details that aren’t being done. That is on Frost and that is what will get him fired. ‘Fans’ rooting for him and the team to lose so he’ll get fired is a really dumb thing to do as a fan. If he does get fired, it will be because of things that happened out our control.
 

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Repetitive disappointment produces negative expectancy.

It’s not anyones opinion that the guy is a failing coach, it’s a Numerical Fact!

Yet, there are some who continue to put the livelihood of 1 individual above the good of the entire program.

I have no personal issue with Frost, but I do have an issue with 16-30. No matter who the coach is.

We’ve given this guy every chance and the reality is that if he could do the job, he would of done it already.

Are we bad fans for feeling this way and expecting more?
 

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When we were tied going into the 4th I wasn't rooting for them to lose but I didn't care anymore. I'm looking at the schedule and there are absolutely no guaranteed wins on it. Can't say I ever said that after game 2
Exactly, I'm not rooting for them to lose, but just don't care anymore what happens, win or lose. Most of the team doesn't seem to give a **** either, why should I?
 
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Week 1 of the off-season and the hype train is right back on schedule

love it!!

frost should be calling all plays on offense, defense and special teams from here on out!! Just need to gel! LFGBR!!!
Seriously? Hype train? I clearly said Frost is a bad coach who is most likely going to be fired. Wow! What hype! Do you have reading comprehension issues? The very clear point of my post was that I don’t think we should be hoping for Nebraska to lose just so Frost can get fired. My point was about hoping we win, despite our feelings for Frost. If you want to call that hype you are free to do so. But you would be wrong.
 

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I'm just gonna sit back and let things play out. Once we get into the heart of October we'll probably know. In Trev I trust.
 
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Repetitive disappointment produces negative expectancy.

It’s not anyones opinion that the guy is a failing coach, it’s a Numerical Fact!

Yet, there are some who continue to put the livelihood of 1 individual above the good of the entire program.

I have no personal issue with Frost, but I do have an issue with 16-30. No matter who the coach is.

We’ve given this guy every chance and the reality is that if he could do the job, he would of done it already.

Are we bad fans for feeling this way and expecting more?
I never called anyone a bad fan. And you, like so many others, seem to have reading comprehension issues. My OP was clearly NOT a pro Frost statement nor a condemnation of anyone who criticizes him. I began the post by stating clearly that I have been as critical of him as anyone. Nor am I criticizing those who think he is a failed coach. Because I too think he is a failed coach. For the last time … read my lips… my one and only point was that we should not be rooting for us to lose just to get rid of Frost. We should still be rooting for us to win every damn game.
 

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I never liked Jerry Kill. Not for a minute. I knew his high watermark was slightly above average. And I definitely wanted Claeys fired immediately...it was embarrassing seeing him try to recruit. And I said the games with them as coaches weren't even really worth watching.

This was not a popular opinion in Minnesota. But I never apologized for it.
 

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I think the overwhelming majority want Frost to succeed (especially when he first came here). But the only one can do this is Frost and time is running out. Beat up the teams you’re supposed to. Get the team inspired to win a game that nobody thinks we can win!

And that has been the frustration for me. He can never get this team to rise to the occasion especially during close games against good competition. Time and again, we look sloppy, make stupid mistakes, and fold when the game is on the line.

That tells me he is failing during practice. It’s the tiny details that aren’t being done. That is on Frost and that is what will get him fired. ‘Fans’ rooting for him and the team to lose so he’ll get fired is a really dumb thing to do as a fan. If he does get fired, it will be because of things that happened out our control.
I think most fans would like to see Frost have a good season this year. But it's coupled with a fear that if it happens and Frost's contract is extended, Frost may not be able to continue it next year and it will just delay the inevitable firing and the re-start with a new coach.
 
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I've always been an ends justify the means person. It's not that I was rooting against Nebraska per say. But in the back of my mind I know a loss as bad as that one would get rid of Frost sooner. He's doing possibly irreparable damage to the program and will be lucky to go 5-7 and probably more like 3 or 4 wins. Not going to win going 8-9 games.

I assume from your username you're in PA. Hello from another Husker fan who is in Nittany Lion country. At least it's not Iowa. Lol.
Where do you live? I live near Wilkes Barre
 

Laner2

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I’ve mentioned in posts before that I hate the position that Frost has put so many fans in. Nebraska needs a great HEAD coach. Scott does not even rank as “below average” in year five.

Can he work himself up to “below average” or even “average”? Possibly - but that is not good for NU Football either. 4 wins is progress, 5 wins is a big step and 6 wins is 100% improvement. Great metrics, still bad for NU Football. I fear Scott will be one step below Pelini where the occasional 9 win season will be celebrated after a few years of 7-8 wins.

So I do find myself at times hoping this purgatory comes to an end. I chalk it up to just one more of the negative impact he has had on HuskerNation.
While I get the frustration and disappointment, I think some on this board want Frost to lose just to be validated. I want him to win and I want this team to become meaningful. How he makes that happen is immaterial to me so my feelings about Frost don't need to be validated nor do they matter. Just win.
 

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I think most fans would like to see Frost have a good season this year. But it's coupled with a fear that if it happens and Frost's contract is extended, Frost may not be able to continue it next year and it will just delay the inevitable firing and the re-start with a new coach.

Nebraska fans want the team to win but also to escape limbo. If Frost manages to go 8-5 this year and keep his job, only to go 8-5 in '22 and 8-5 in '23, while a huge improvement, it is still remaining in college football limbo.

Those are good seasons for Purdue or Minnesota. Not Nebraska.
 
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Laner2

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As a fan, would you rather lay down in a hospital bed and die by a long painful slow death, or just die by a bullet to the head.? Just get it over with! That is the thinking of fans who just want Nebraska to lose. Most people know this experiment is not going work, so lets just get it over with as quickly as possible.
Keeping with the allegory, I'd want to get better. Not trying to be funny. I want NU to win and if Frost can manage it, fine.
 

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Rooting for NU to lose to fire Frost implies I give a **** about it. I honestly don’t care any more. I care enough to post about it, but that gets it out of my system.
 

HUSKERFAN66

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Like a lot of Frost teams in the last 4+ years, this team came out sleep walking and hasn't shown any level of being able to sustain an emotional level of play for 60 minutes. At halftime, I thought this team, or the play calling, or just the way the half started NU was in desperation mode.

Frost did and said so much stupid **** over his time here, there is a legitimate lack of "circle the wagons" from a huge swath of fans. People have spent a lot of emotional energy over his time here, only to be let down when the game is on the line. I think it's only natural to expect more of the same.

Our wanting or hoping Frost succeeds or fails will continue to fall on deaf ears. Us fans don't make any decisions, but we have a right to deal with the football situation in any manner we choose. I thought the w/l record of the first 4 years merited termination. Frost will succeed or fail on his own.

During his PC yesterday, it looked to me like, for about the first time, Frost showed more legitimate concern for the "players and team" than he did for his own career. He seemed to be a lot closer to being honest than I usually see from him.

Even though NU was playing a FCS school yesterday, did something happen at halftime that Frost or the offensive staff actually landed on something that might work? I get the impression they were willing to go down in flames, but it was suddenly all about winning, regardless of what NU had to do on offense to get there.

It still goes back to a team that lacks physical and mental toughness.
In my opinion, watching pregame warm ups, visiting teams are business like and we are loosy goosy. Heck we celebrate tackles on 5 yard gains
 
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I can only speak for myself but I want Nebraska to win every game they play regardless of who the coach is. I don't think Frost is the guy but until he's no longer the coach, I'm going to root like hell for him to be the answer because I hate watching irrelevant and bad football. I am hoping that maybe against all odds, he turns this ship around if they can somehow win against OU (super unlikely).

I actually really like what Whipple's done with the offense given the limitations of the offensive line. He's actually focused on getting the best players (Palmer and Grant) the ball and good things seem to happen every time they touch it. I thought they may have found something to build off of in the 2nd half offensively so we'll see what happens next week.

Even though I want Nebraska to win every game they play, I'm also going to be smart and bet against them to win against every competent opponent they play. Week 1, I absolutely bet on Northwestern and that was entirely because Frost sucks in openers (and has sucked his entire tenure here but I digress). Yesterday, I bet on Nebraska not covering the spread because of how piss poor the defense looked in week 1 (and after yesterday, week 2). Best case, Nebraska wins every game the rest of the season and I lose a tiny bit of money. Worst case, Nebraska loses almost every game the rest of the season (I think they win next weekend) but I make a little money off the miserable viewing experience. Win-win in my book.
 

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Don't take this the wrong way, but hating on the players is immature and so are you.
I feel sorry for the players and am pissed at those making football decisions for essentially giving the players the middle finger by bringing back a failed coach to flush yet another year of their eligibility.
 

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I never called anyone a bad fan. And you, like so many others, seem to have reading comprehension issues. My OP was clearly NOT a pro Frost statement nor a condemnation of anyone who criticizes him. I began the post by stating clearly that I have been as critical of him as anyone. Nor am I criticizing those who think he is a failed coach. Because I too think he is a failed coach. For the last time … read my lips… my one and only point was that we should not be rooting for us to lose just to get rid of Frost. We should still be rooting for us to win every damn game.
Honestly, I never read your OP. I’m just responding to why people would root against Frost.

And I understand what you’re saying, we should always support the team and want them to be successful.

If the people in charge of the university would do their job, we wouldn’t be talking about fans rooting against the team.
 

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I never called anyone a bad fan. And you, like so many others, seem to have reading comprehension issues. My OP was clearly NOT a pro Frost statement nor a condemnation of anyone who criticizes him. I began the post by stating clearly that I have been as critical of him as anyone. Nor am I criticizing those who think he is a failed coach. Because I too think he is a failed coach. For the last time … read my lips… my one and only point was that we should not be rooting for us to lose just to get rid of Frost. We should still be rooting for us to win every damn game.
I root for the school and not the coach. It's like the pastor at my church. I don't go there to see him/her. I go there for the church. Pastors come and go. You know what I mean?
 

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I was against hiring frost from day 1 due to lack of experience. (nothing against frost personally except stanford, and asu) but folks didn't listen correctly. but I'm also a team player, thus I support frost 100% and hope he gets better. alot better, soon (like before oklahoma)

it's really alot like biden in many ways (allthough I do dislike him personally, with his 60+ genders and printing press inflation..etc..), I told folks don't vote for him, they did...and now I got to hope he gets better, alot better, soon (like before hyperinflation, ww3 and stock market crash)
 
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Honestly, I never read your OP. I’m just responding to why people would root against Frost.

And I understand what you’re saying, we should always support the team and want them to be successful.

If the people in charge of the university would do their job, we wouldn’t be talking about fans rooting against the team.
My apologies. I must have misunderstood your post. Maybe I have reading comprehension issues!
 

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Honestly, I never read your OP. I’m just responding to why people would root against Frost.

And I understand what you’re saying, we should always support the team and want them to be successful.

If the people in charge of the university would do their job, we wouldn’t be talking about fans rooting against the team.
Right. We all wanted Scott Frost to succeed. 16-30 is the opposite of my expectations. And I would still think that we should be better. It's just not acceptable. We've looked just awful here in Year 5.
 

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"in the bank account, the glory" we are the contender with the glass jaw. everyone we play has a legitimate chance of knocking us out. i enjoyed winning a game yesterday, that's about all. keep filling memorial stadium and guaranteed nothing will change. it's not the money now, it's just the venue, the happening, the experience of a stadium filled with red. dumb and numb big red hasbeens yucking it up. we accept anything like we deserve it for winning in the past.
 
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I’ll admit, In the 3rd qt I felt like F it, let’s just lose this and get it over with. Tear down this whole crap show to the ground so we can rebuild properly but I also hate that I even felt that way mainly because of the players.
So at that point I just decided win or lose whatever happens happens. I made up my mind on SF after year 2 so I’ve been clamoring for this for awhile.
I don’t believe even for a second there aren’t thousands of fans that feel this exact same way which is why it must happen.
He’ll be gone in October (Sunday before the bye week starts), we’ll win 3 games and we’ll have finally hit rock bottom which is what needs to happen so all the crap is thrown out to the curb.
 

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I am hoping we win the maximum number of games that still results in Frost not being the coach next year

looking at other teams on the schedule we could be the same 3-9 team we were last year and blindly stumble into 7+ wins solely based on our opponents ineptitude


No he has to show failure. We will.never find a good coach if we keep firing winning coaches.

I dont know why our fans can't understand this.
 

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I’ll admit, In the 3rd qt I felt like F it, let’s just lose this and get it over with. Tear down this whole crap show to the ground so we can rebuild properly but I also hate that I even felt that way mainly because of the players.
So at that point I just decided win or lose whatever happens happens. I made up my mind on SF after year 2 so I’ve been clamoring for this for awhile.
I don’t believe even for a second there aren’t thousands of fans that feel this exact same way which is why it must happen.
He’ll be gone in October (Sunday before the bye week starts), we’ll win 3 games and we’ll have finally hit rock bottom which is what needs to happen so all the crap is thrown out to the curb.

Year 1 proved he wasn't a good coach


Good coaches show improvement immediately.
 

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Seriously? Hype train? I clearly said Frost is a bad coach who is most likely going to be fired. Wow! What hype! Do you have reading comprehension issues? The very clear point of my post was that I don’t think we should be hoping for Nebraska to lose just so Frost can get fired. My point was about hoping we win, despite our feelings for Frost. If you want to call that hype you are free to do so. But you would be wrong.
I get it, Penns. Just found the timing (after a pointless win during a pointless season that’s already over for all intents and purposes) to be funny.

my feelings are probably closer to @oldjar07 ’s than to yours.

the players and coaches chose to come here, they “work” “hard” and still these are the results they yield.

I don’t feel bad for a single one of them. Losers are what losers do (lose).

the Michigan fan is right. The worst thing that could happen to Nebraska is accepting an 8-win frost season and furthering our plunge into national irrelevancy.

fans should be rooting for a major tank job so we get what’s sorely needed
 

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I get it, Penns. Just found the timing (after a pointless win during a pointless season that’s already over for all intents and purposes) to be funny.

my feelings are probably closer to @oldjar07 ’s than to yours.

the players and coaches chose to come here, they “work” “hard” and still these are the results they yield.

I don’t feel bad for a single one of them. Losers are what losers do (lose).

Especially since they get paid now

Deal with it or quit.
 

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Where do you live? I live near Wilkes Barre
Don't really like to get too specific online (sorry) but I'm awhile north of Altoona. Probably 3 1/2 hours or so from Wilkes Barre but not sure off hand. Apologies for my pissy reply earlier. Just fed up from football lately...
 
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Don't really like to get too specific online (sorry) but I'm awhile north of Altoona. Probably 3 1/2 hours or so from Wilkes Barre but not sure off hand. Apologies for my pissy reply earlier. Just fed up from football lately...
Yep. Know that area well. Beautiful country
 

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Those are good seasons for Purdue or Minnesota. Not Nebraska.
You give the scenario of the 8-5 season...which I always hated. 4 wins vs non-conference cupcakes, 3-5 in conference, and a win in some Popeye's Chicken Bowl or something. Boring. Yet others always told me I should be happy with that. Screw that...I wanted Kill/Claeys fired by any means necessary.
fans should be rooting for a major tank job so we get what’s sorely needed
I've wanted coaches gone so badly that yes, I wanted my team to tank. I admit it.