Rona and the Yankees

[aTotal360]

Supposedly 7 staffers the Yankees tested positive. All 7 had been vaccinated.

Seems like a pretty big "failure rate" (if you want to call it that) for the vaccine. As someone that has gotten stabbed, this disappoints me. I'm not an anti-vaxer by any means, but what the hell? What's the excuse for this thing not working? Coincidence?

Stories like this certainly don't instill confidence...


https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id...tives-coaching-support-staff-aaron-boone-says

 

[notoriousD_O_G]

Supposedly 7 staffers the Yankees tested positive. All 7 had been vaccinated.

Seems like a pretty big "failure rate" (if you want to call it that) for the vaccine. As someone that has gotten stabbed, this disappoints me. I'm not an anti-vaxer by any means, but what the hell? What's the excuse for this thing not working? Coincidence?

Stories like this certainly don't instill confidence...


https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id...tives-coaching-support-staff-aaron-boone-says

They say that the vaccines don't completely prevent the virus, just greatly reduce the death rate

 

[Breazeweaze]

“Six of the seven people who have tested positive are asymptomatic, Boone said. All seven people who tested positive have been vaccinated for COVID-19.”

In be good to know when these folks were vaccinated and if they were past the recommended wait period before the vaccine was considered most effective.

Asymptomatic COVID is kind of the goal of a vaccine. You get exposed but you’ve built an immune response that tackles it without experiencing the worst of the disease.

 

[ronpolk]

I’m going to predict how this thread will go...

Most will have reasonable comments, for and against the vaccine. Then drebin and golfer will hijack the thread in another one of their fights that go on for 3 pages.

 

[msugolf]

They say that the vaccines don't completely prevent the virus, just greatly reduce the death rate

Greatly reduces the .09 percent death rate? Damn that’s impressive

 

[Drebin]

I’m going to predict how this thread will go...

Most will have reasonable comments, for and against the vaccine. Then drebin and golfer will hijack the thread in another one of their fights that go on for 3 pages.

Drebin generally posts reasonable stuff. Drebin's had the vaccine, but supports anyone's right to decide not to get one for themselves.

In this case, sounds like Boone is unhappy that they still have to test so frequently by reading his comments. If six are asymptomatic, is it possible that there may be a higher number of false positives for those who have received the vaccine?

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

The vaccine doesn’t prevent infection, it prevents serious illness, hospitalizations, and death. That’s what they’ve said from the beginning.

 

[hatfieldms]

The vaccine was never 100% effective against getting it. Just damn near 100% effective against death or serious illness

They all took the J&J which while still effective has always said to have been the least effective

 

[QuaoarsKing]

Greatly reduces the .09 percent death rate? Damn that’s impressive

Might want to recheck your math there.

Even if every single American had had Covid, 583,000 / 330,000,000 is already at 0.18%.

 

[jethreauxdawg]

They should’ve required staff members

To wear a mask

 

[dawg0204]

Yep, the same thing as the normal flu vaccine. Doesn’t eliminate the infection but reduces the severity.

 

[DoggieDaddy13]

This is why you need to get outside, continue to social distance, and wear mask when you have to be in close proximity to others. Just because you've been vaccinated doesn't mean you won't contract the virus and pass it along to others.

Even if you get the regular flu vaccine, you can still get the flu (and spread it to others). You just don't get as sick as you would normally and you probably won't die.

See- Covid 19 and the flu really are alike.

 

[DoggieDaddy13]

That is what THEY say and THEY are right. It reduces the death rate and duration and severity of the illness considerably. But you can still get it and give it to others.

 

[ronpolk]

This is why you need to get outside, continue to social distance, and wear mask when you have to be in close proximity to others. Just because you've been vaccinated doesn't mean you won't contract the virus and pass it along to others.

Even if you get the regular flu vaccine, you can still get the flu (and spread it to others). You just don't get as sick as you would normally and you probably won't die.

See- Covid 19 and the flu really are alike.

Pre vaccine and when the vaccine was not available to everyone, I was fine with social distancing measures and mask Indoors. However, now that anyone who wants the vaccine can get it, I’m done with mask. I’m vaccinated. I did my part. If you decide not to get the vaccine and not do your part, that’s on you and certainly your choice.

 

[Captain Ron]

This is why you need to get outside, continue to social distance, and wear mask when you have to be in close proximity to others. Just because you've been vaccinated doesn't mean you won't contract the virus and pass it along to others.

Even if you get the regular flu vaccine, you can still get the flu (and spread it to others). You just don't get as sick as you would normally and you probably won't die.

See- Covid 19 and the flu really are alike.

So, basically the same as a non vaxed person, (can still get it, still spread it) just with lesser symptoms?

Now that there are no lines and no wait for the vax, we still have to do all those things? Are we shooting for zero sickness (even mild) now? When exactly (a specific metric please and why) will you feel safe without a mask or social distancing?

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

Bingo. I’m the same way. If you don’t choose to get the vaccine then you inherit the risk.

 

[DoggieDaddy13]

It's not a matter feeling safer. I mean, we all gotta go sometime, right? Or did I just make that up.

It's about preventing the spread of the disease. And until we achieve herd immunity (which is doubtful at this point), it's going to continue to impact the workforce, the economy, and the overall death rate.

So don't fear the mask or social distancing. And wash your hands.

 

[jethreauxdawg]

So basically never go back to normal?

 

[DoggieDaddy13]

I understand where you are coming from and often share that same '17'em' attitude.

But as the original poster pointed out, you can still get it: you may get mildly sick or carry and give it to some yo-yo who refused to get vaccinated, maybe even a child with an autoimmune deficiency.

 

[DoggieDaddy13]

So basically never go back to normal?

Basically.
Sorry.

 

[aTotal360]

I'm sorta in the same boat. I'll wear it, but as soon as I see others not wearing it, mine's coming off. I don't partake in the theatre of wearing it 10 feet into a restaurant and then taking it off. If you are concerned about the covid, don't go to a busy restaurant. If someone asks me to wear one, I'll gladly do it.

This mentality of it being everyone else's responsibility to take care of you is self-defeating. If you are unwilling to take care of yourself by lessening contact with others, I can't help you. I'm shocked at all the people that are willing to kick the can to others (or the government) to protect them.

We all take risks every single day. From driving a car to crossing the street. Covid is just another added element everyone needs to navigate as they see fit.

 

[Xenomorph]

There's a long list of viruses that will make you mildly sick, that you can carry and that you can give to yo-yos and children with an autoimmune deficiency.

At this point, Covid 19 is just another one of them.

 

[jethreauxdawg]

Basically.
Sorry.

At least you admit it. Forget moving the goalposts. There are no goal posts for you people. You can keep your mask and other half hearted efforts to make you feel like you’re doing something positive. I choose to accept the risk.

 

[DoggieDaddy13]

What people? What goal posts?

 

[Bill Shankly]

At least you admit it. Forget moving the goalposts. There are no goal posts for you people. You can keep your mask and other half hearted efforts to make you feel like you’re doing something positive. I choose to accept the risk.

So you are accepting the risk for the others around you as well. That's nice of you.

 

[aTotal360]

Don't you do that every time you get in your car?

 

[dawgman42]

That's DAWG61. All lanes.

 

[jethreauxdawg]

How was that football game L4? Take your self righteous garbage somewhere else.

 

[Crazy Cotton]

This is just weird. First thought was - did they all get the same vac batch? Sounds like they're checking that. Given the fragility of the mnra vaccines, could be a bad batch. Second would be - did they all get tested together? Wonder if there's a testing issue. And then, obviously, what's the timeline for exposure/vaccination?

 

[PBRME]

If they’re all vaccinated then what’s the point of still testing?

I understood the precautions at first. I sympathized with the maskers, and social distancing. Now that the vaccine is readily available to anyone that wants it isn’t it time to move on? If at this point you haven’t at least gotten the first shot then that’s your problem. Not mine.

 

[Drebin]

Pre vaccine and when the vaccine was not available to everyone, I was fine with social distancing measures and mask Indoors. However, now that anyone who wants the vaccine can get it, I’m done with mask. I’m vaccinated. I did my part. If you decide not to get the vaccine and not do your part, that’s on you and certainly your choice.

See, this is a reasonable take. And I agree with all of it. But if I had said it, the shitfest you predicted earlier in this thread would have ended up happening. It's not about what is said here so much as who says it.

 

[Bulldawg77]

How was that football game L4? Take your self righteous garbage somewhere else.

I was wondering if anyone else caught on this this fraud. He is Labdawg on another site and poses as a virologist as well. He lives for bad Rona news

 

[fishwater99]

At least you admit it. Forget moving the goalposts. There are no goal posts for you people. You can keep your mask and other half hearted efforts to make you feel like you’re doing something positive. I choose to accept the risk.

^^^This Once people are vaccinated they should be able to do whatever the HELL they want. If you are scared then wear a mask or stay in the basement with Sleepy Joe.

It's time to move on from this over-hyped virus. America land of the Free and home of the Brave.

Thanks again China..

 

[ronpolk]

See, this is a reasonable take. And I agree with all of it. But if I had said it, the shitfest you predicted earlier in this thread would have ended up happening. It's not about what is said here so much as who says it.

Haha maybe so. I was mainly just joking with you and golfer because you two have some disagreements on here.

 

[patdog]

So you are accepting the risk for the others around you as well. That's nice of you.

No. If they're not vaccinated, THEY accepted the risk.

 

[Bill Shankly]

How was that football game L4? Take your self righteous garbage somewhere else.

LOL, I was masked and never within 20 ft of anyone. I was also working. Take your militant selfishness somewhere else.

 

[Bill Shankly]

No. If they're not vaccinated, THEY accepted the risk.

How do you know who is vaccinated and who isn't. Those who are vaccinated have taken responsibility for their actions. They acknowledge that not to be vaccinated is putting others at risk.

 

[mcdawg22]

Pre vaccine and when the vaccine was not available to everyone, I was fine with social distancing measures and mask Indoors. However, now that anyone who wants the vaccine can get it, I’m done with mask. I’m vaccinated. I did my part. If you decide not to get the vaccine and not do your part, that’s on you and certainly your choice.

I’ll wear it if everyone else is but I’m pretty much the same. The only downside I’ve heard is if people don’t vaccinate and the virus stays active then it could mutate to a point that the vaccine doesn’t have an effect. I would counter with, 1. They said it will still spread with the vaccine just improve the bodies response so wouldn’t it still have a chance to mutate. 2. Isn’t it just as likely that COVID-23 or 24 or 25 spread like a mutated Covid-19?

 

[Bill Shankly]

I was wondering if anyone else caught on this this fraud. He is Labdawg on another site and poses as a virologist as well. He lives for bad Rona news

I am NOT labdawg. I'm Liverpooldog on the only other MSU board I post on. The two names I've used here should have made that plain as they are both Liverpool related. L4 is the post code for Anfield Stadium. Bill Shankley is Liverpool's most beloved manager. I am in a healthcare related field for my real job but I'm not a virologist.

 

[patdog]

I don't know, and I really don't care. If they don't care enough to get vaccinated or social distance, that's not my problem.