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it's a slippery slope, is it right for parents to inject hormons into kids to confuse their sexual identity, although that's not my office to judge, seems highly degenerate , reprobate infact. I recon the spread of aids by homosexuals across the country during the 80's is yet another horrid inpact on the country.

Well since, as a devout Christian, I am sure you should only had sex with your spouse, and not until after you were married, and you didn't participate in any illegal drug activities. And all the people you cared about were also practicing abstention and weren't sharing needles, I would guess the chances of you contracting AIDS would have been decreased significantly.
 
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I gotta get back to the grind stone, all I'm saying is don't turn America into sodom.
 

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it's a slippery slope, is it right for parents to inject hormons into kids to confuse their sexual identity, although that's not my office to judge, seems highly degenerate , reprobate infact. I recon the spread of aids by homosexuals across the country during the 80's is yet another horrid inpact on the country.
WTF man.
 

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Lol, right? That was a real head-scratcher.

I think a lot of these misconceptions come from poisonous right wing media that, frankly, should be regulated out of existence. It's too bad that it convinces people of some really bizarre things in order to trigger a fearful, angry response when in fact there is absolutely no need for one. @Tuco Salamanca keeps trying to poke at that point in his responses, which is this; freedom to live your life as you see fit is paramount in our society, barring certain actions and behaviors that we regulate or ban because they are deemed to be too harmful to oneself and others.

Also, none of this has anything to do with religious beliefs, which are sacred to a lot of people but meant to be kept out of the affairs of the state.
 

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Oh and as far as Ron Brown goes, he is an excellent coach and probably a decent person all-around, but he has openly advocated for policies that harm LGBTQ people based on his own evangelical beliefs. That part is not so cool, he shouldn't have done it, and if he did anything like that again he should be fired. Frost already laid it all out there and I expect it to be followed as per his instructions.
 

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it's a slippery slope, is it right for parents to inject hormons into kids to confuse their sexual identity, although that's not my office to judge, seems highly degenerate , reprobate infact. I recon the spread of aids by homosexuals across the country during the 80's is yet another horrid inpact on the country.

Yeah, I treated patients with hiv. The cause fought to keep hiv a secret based on a civil right instead of a communicable disease, which killed a lot of innocent people.
 

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it's a slippery slope, is it right for parents to inject hormons into kids to confuse their sexual identity, although that's not my office to judge, seems highly degenerate , reprobate infact. I recon the spread of aids by homosexuals across the country during the 80's is yet another horrid inpact on the country.

That sounds like child abuse to me.
 

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or support the bible, or freedom of religion, or freedom of speech, or right to bare arms or conservative thought or love of flag and nation. I know it may be hard for you to understand this, but it goes both ways, doesn't it?
Dude. Who is stopping you from supporting the Bible or your religion? Or conservative thought or love of the flag?

Love them all. I don’t get why people make these fake battles in their minds.
 

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Dude. Who is stopping you from supporting the Bible or your religion? Or conservative thought or love of the flag?

Love them all. I don’t get why people make these fake battles in their minds.
As long as this thread is not locked, guess I’ll chime in.

My bible speaks clearly about homosexuality. It calls it a sin. So is it ok if call a homosexual a sinner?

Btw, I’m a sinner too... just different sins.

The reality is if I call a homosexual a sinner based off of my bible, then I am called a bigot and a hater, am I not?
 

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It isn't about hate, it's just a lack of tolerance. How does a person's sexuality affect how Ron Brown or you or I conduct our daily lives? It doesn't.

I can be a conservative, catholic, 45 year old, hispanic male who doesn't totally get why a person is gay or lesbian, but not march against, lead protests against and lobby against those people's rights as citizens. I have never understood why we, as a human race, want to spend so much of our time in the lives of others.

Unless they are doing something illegal, I just don't get the need to be so intolerant.

Yeah, and it goes both ways from both sides.
 

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Dude. Who is stopping you from supporting the Bible or your religion? Or conservative thought or love of the flag?

Love them all. I don’t get why people make these fake battles in their minds.

No one, yet ,although, I had my tires slashed and swastikas spray painted on my car with hateful names, and the church I attended was broken into with the same color spray painted names and swastikas. Some people, apparently, might think that if I go to church that I am some how a nazi. Apparently, someone made up a battle in their own mind about me.

I was active duty at the time and wasn't espousing anything other than my duty to country. Just pointing out that it goes both ways.

In my previous post I was just pointing out people on the opposite side want to dictate behavior, also. Seems that they are for freedoms as long as it agrees with them, then it comes down to name calling. Just read the above posts and pick out who does most of the labeling and name calling with disdain and sometimes hate. It is mostly the individuals espousing tolerance, but seem to be hating on Ron Brown.

In that previous post I didn't say which side I was on. You inferred it. I only implied people on the other side want to be left alone to practice their freedoms, also.
 
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Well since, as a devout Christian, I am you should only had sex with your spouse, and not until after you were married, and you didn't participate in any illegal drug activities. And all the people you cared about were also practicing abstention and weren't sharing needles, I would guess the chances of you contracting AIDS would have been decreased significantly.

Just to inform people of history, many unsuspecting people were contracting hiv from contaminated blood transfusions before tests were available. The tennis player Arthur Ash, RIP, was one example.

Again, hiv was a civil right, not a communicable disease. (sarcasm)
 
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That sounds like child abuse to me.
there's degenerate freaks that put dresses on small boys. of course it child abuse, but liberals hold to moral relitism, which means they have no basis for right and wrong. like I said slippery slope..they had on lib freak in europe that married a fence post...look it up
 
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Just to inform people of history, many unsuspecting people were contracting hiv from contaminated blood transfusions before tests were available. The tennis player Arthur Ash, rip, was one example.

Again, hiv was a civil right, not a communicable disease. (sarcasm)
the lions share of aids was spread by homosexuality...not that spreading aids by drug abuse is much better.
it's kinda like when talking to liberals about mudering kids, they say "yeah but what about rape/mothers health blah de blah"
mothers health and rape make up .6% of abortions, Im talking bout the 99.4%.....

splinter/beam
 

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love the sinner hate the sin, and the way to love someone is to let them know when they are doing wrong. not say hey sin as much as possible.
 

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It isn't about hate, it's just a lack of tolerance. How does a person's sexuality affect how Ron Brown or you or I conduct our daily lives? It doesn't.

I can be a conservative, catholic, 45 year old, hispanic male who doesn't totally get why a person is gay or lesbian, but not march against, lead protests against and lobby against those people's rights as citizens. I have never understood why we, as a human race, want to spend so much of our time in the lives of others.

Unless they are doing something illegal, I just don't get the need to be so intolerant.

1st of all, I'm(and I assume other Christians who have chimed in here are) not talking about Conservatism. Were talking about a relationship with the God who created everyone and everything, who sent His only son to pay for the sins of all who would accept His sacrifice AND who's last words to us before He returned to the Father were recorded in Mark 16:15

15 He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation.16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.

and this is a COMMAND, not a SUGGESTION. (as verified by Ezekiel 33:8)

When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.

Sinners are not tolerant as they like to boast. They want to live their lives, living as if God doesn't exist. They expect Christians to shut up about God and the upcoming judgment. The fact that us Christians are here, reminds them that YES, there is a God who expects certain things from us and we will all stand before Him in judgment, one of these days. It is out of Love that Christians proclaim the Gospel to a lost and dying world. Those who claim to be Tolerant should understand that Christians are only doing what God commands them to do. Fact is, those who wish to silence Christians in the name of tolerance are choosing to live life without God, ignoring the God who loves them and gave his only son to redeem them.

P.S. My son is a declared homosexual. I Love him anyway and pray that the Lord will reveal His truth to my son and all unbelievers. I don't bludgeon him with the Bible but he knows where I stand and where I wish he stood.
 
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As long as this thread is not locked, guess I’ll chime in.

My bible speaks clearly about homosexuality. It calls it a sin. So is it ok if call a homosexual a sinner?

Btw, I’m a sinner too... just different sins.

The reality is if I call a homosexual a sinner based off of my bible, then I am called a bigot and a hater, am I not?
You are welcome to call a gay man or woman a sinner as much as you want. The biggest issue is when people take their religious beliefs to reduce someone's civil rights.

You may still be a hater if you overly fixate and concern yourself with that particular sin over others. For example, I find it really interesting that people choose to follow the bible so out loud when it comes to same sex marriage, but they tend to ignore the part where marriage between a man and woman is meant for life... somehow we're cool with divorced couples remarrying - where are the protests to stop divorced people from remarrying?
 
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1st of all, I'm(and I assume other Christians who have chimed in here are) not talking about Conservatism. Were talking about a relationship with the God who created everyone and everything, who sent His only son to pay for the sins of all who would accept His sacrifice AND who's last words to us before He returned to the Father were recorded in Mark 16:15

15 He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation.16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.

and this is a COMMAND, not a SUGGESTION. (as verified by Ezekiel 33:8)

When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.

Sinners are not tolerant as they like to boast. They want to live their lives, living as if God doesn't exist. They expect Christians to shut up about God and the upcoming judgment. The fact that us Christians are here, reminds them that YES, there is a God who expects certain things from us and we will all stand before Him in judgment, one of these days. It is out of Love that Christians proclaim the Gospel to a lost and dying world. Those who claim to be Tolerant should understand that Christians are only doing what God commands them to do. Fact is, those who wish to silence Christians in the name of tolerance are choosing to live life without God, ignoring the God who loves them and gave his only son to redeem them.

P.S. My son is a declared homosexual. I Love him anyway and pray that the Lord will reveal His truth to my son and all unbelievers. I don't bludgeon him with the Bible but he knows where I stand and where I wish he stood.


Great, and not a sole is telling you that you can't believe what you want. Believe and preach. Stand on a corner and tell everyone your opinion. I just don't see the need to take away the rights of people you don't agree with, simply because you don't agree with them.
 

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No one, yet ,although, I had my tires slashed and swastikas spray painted on my car with hateful names, and the church I attended was broken into with the same color spray painted names and swastikas. Some people, apparently, might think that if I go to church that I am some how a nazi. Apparently, someone made up a battle in their own mind about me.

I was active duty at the time and wasn't espousing anything other than my duty to country. Just pointing out that it goes both ways.

In my previous post I was just pointing out people on the opposite side want to dictate behavior, also. Seems that they are for freedoms as long as it agrees with them, then it comes down to name calling. Just read the above posts and pick out who does most of the labeling and name calling with disdain and sometimes hate. It is mostly the individuals espousing tolerance, but seem to be hating on Ron Brown.

In that previous post I didn't say which side I was on. You inferred it. I only implied people on the other side want to be left alone to practice their freedoms, also.
Those people who vandalized your car and church broke the law and I'm sorry that happened to you. But the thing is, those actions are illegal and not part of a government practice stopping you from living out your religious conservative wishes. Sorry if I inferred anything about you - my response was meant to speak to "you" as in anyone. Anyone is welcome to believe in the flag, the Bible, God, or conservatism. I have a hard time believing there is really a war against God that many people proclaim there is.
 

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You are welcome to call a gay man or woman a sinner as much as you want. The biggest issue is when people take their religious beliefs to reduce someone's civil rights.

You may still be a hater if you overly fixate and concern yourself with that particular sin over others. For example, I find it really interesting that people choose to follow the bible so out loud when it comes to same sex marriage, but they tend to ignore the part where marriage between a man and woman is meant for life... somehow we're cool with divorced couples remarrying - where are the protests to stop divorced people from remarrying?

With the divorce they may be trying to avoid a different serious sin---killing each other.
 
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You are welcome to call a gay man or woman a sinner as much as you want. The biggest issue is when people take their religious beliefs to reduce someone's civil rights.

You may still be a hater if you overly fixate and concern yourself with that particular sin over others. For example, I find it really interesting that people choose to follow the bible so out loud when it comes to same sex marriage, but they tend to ignore the part where marriage between a man and woman is meant for life... somehow we're cool with divorced couples remarrying - where are the protests to stop divorced people from remarrying?

Or adultery, or masturbation, or premarital sex, or keeping holy the sabbath.
 

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Just to inform people of history, many unsuspecting people were contracting hiv from contaminated blood transfusions before tests were available. The tennis player Arthur Ash, RIP, was one example.

Again, hiv was a civil right, not a communicable disease. (sarcasm)
I don't follow your point about HIV that you keep trying to make. Who are you suggesting was keeping HIV a secret (or a civil right??). Maybe I'm not intelligent enough to get it.
 

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correct, repent and believe


incorrect, die in sin


that's how I see it.
 

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You are welcome to call a gay man or woman a sinner as much as you want. The biggest issue is when people take their religious beliefs to reduce someone's civil rights.

You may still be a hater if you overly fixate and concern yourself with that particular sin over others. For example, I find it really interesting that people choose to follow the bible so out loud when it comes to same sex marriage, but they tend to ignore the part where marriage between a man and woman is meant for life... somehow we're cool with divorced couples remarrying - where are the protests to stop divorced people from remarrying?
Or adultery, or masturbation, or premarital sex, or keeping holy the sabbath.
This. The church has been guilty for years over this very thing. And that is in large part why we are in the situation we are in. We need to preach the word. All of it. But the church has compromised the sins of convenience in many instances. We are hypocrites, just like everybody else. But the worst part of it is we pretend to be holier than everybody else.

That doesn’t fly with the world around us, nor should it.
 

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Those people who vandalized your car and church broke the law and I'm sorry that happened to you. But the thing is, those actions are illegal and not part of a government practice stopping you from living out your religious conservative wishes. Sorry if I inferred anything about you - my response was meant to speak to "you" as in anyone. Anyone is welcome to believe in the flag, the Bible, God, or conservatism. I have a hard time believing there is really a war against God that many people proclaim there is.

Actually you are very correct about my being a victim of a crime. The problem evolved, however, as was exacerbated BY government. First of all, the government was supposed to, by law, treat it as a hate crime. They ignored it, didn't report it to the fbi, and when I did, they just marginalized and ignored it. I can't help but think if it would have been in another protected class, it would have been spread all over the news media.

In fact, the city police didn't even come out to take a report the night it happened. They were tied up with violent crimes and traffic stops, I guess.

They had me call back every 2 hours to see if they had time, and finally said call the next day. I had to jack up the car in the street and take the wheels in for new tires the next day, but they did come without me calling. How efficient. They came out because it was garbage day and the truck driver called and I got a ticket for inoperable vehicle,

I called a cop that evening and he took the report, finally, and said I just had to write the judge and I would be forgiven of the ticket.. I wrote, but the judge denied my request. So, I had to take a day of leave, and the guy that issued the ticket didn't show so it was dismissed. I stood and asked the judge if I could address the court, and when I when I explained I was victimized by the system as much as the criminal, he smiled and said if the ticket issuer had shown up, he was sure he would have listened to the story and forgiven the ticket---sure. Let's be truthful. They just wanted the money.

No one in the hate crime sections of the police department ever even asked me about anything, and the judge surely didn't give a rodents' posterior because I never heard anything after that.

So much for breaking the law. Some victims and groups just don't seem to count. I guess some on here might think I deserved it because I am a bigot and nazi, huh. (sarcasm)
 

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No one, yet ,although, I had my tires slashed and swastikas spray painted on my car with hateful names, and the church I attended was broken into with the same color spray painted names and swastikas. Some people, apparently, might think that if I go to church that I am some how a nazi. Apparently, someone made up a battle in their own mind about me.

I was active duty at the time and wasn't espousing anything other than my duty to country. Just pointing out that it goes both ways.

In my previous post I was just pointing out people on the opposite side want to dictate behavior, also. Seems that they are for freedoms as long as it agrees with them, then it comes down to name calling. Just read the above posts and pick out who does most of the labeling and name calling with disdain and sometimes hate. It is mostly the individuals espousing tolerance, but seem to be hating on Ron Brown.

In that previous post I didn't say which side I was on. You inferred it. I only implied people on the other side want to be left alone to practice their freedoms, also.
I don't think people spray paint swastikas on things because they think you're the nazi. They do it because they're nazis and/or they think nazis will scare you. So probably it was some nazis who did that to your church.

Let me put it to you all this way on the topic of Ron Brown:

He's free to believe what he believes. I don't agree with him, but it's his protected right. HOWEVER, I don't know of any major football program in modern times that had any problems because their coach kept his mouth shut about what he thinks of a certain demographic of people.

There are worse things he could be or think or do, but it's not a good look. It's not helpful to NU for him to be outspoken about that, it's not like we need a guy we can put on the phone when we're trying real hard to land some homophobe who runs a 4.29 in the 40.

"Boy, fellas, it's between us, Indiana and Ole Miss and I just can't convince him that we're against the gays enough to keep us in the race with those states! Get Ron and tell him I need him on this call STAT!"

That said, sounds like Walters needs to ask him how to get WR to run block.
 
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Great, and not a sole is telling you that you can't believe what you want. Believe and preach. Stand on a corner and tell everyone your opinion. I just don't see the need to take away the rights of people you don't agree with, simply because you don't agree with them.
I don't have a dog in this fight one way or the other. I think for the most part people talk past each other on these issues. Minds already made up and all that....
Anyway, I do not completely agree with this Tuco, although I think you are mostly right in your posts in this thread. The trouble is the "live and let live" philosophy is great, if everyone, on both sides of the issue lived it. Take the baker who did not want to bake that gay wedding cake based on his religious convictions. Why couldn't the gay couple just go to one of any number of other bakers? Why did they have to try and impose their views on this poor baker? Why is it, on this issue, we only see the right wing bigotry highlighted but never the Left wing intolerance of others who disagree with the LGBTQ stuff? If it were me I would have baked the damn cake. Baking a wedding cake doesn't mean you endorse the wedding. It just means you baked a damn cake. But still, I felt sorry for the dude. And I thought the gay couple who sued him were crusading zealots and intolerant jerks.
 
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I don't have a dog in this fight one way or the other. I think for the most part people talk past each other on these issues. Minds already made up and all that....
Anyway, I do not completely agree with this Tuco, although I think you are mostly right in your posts in this thread. The trouble is the "live and let live" philosophy is great, if everyone, on both sides of the issue lived it. Take the baker who did not want to bake that gay wedding cake based on his religious convictions. Why couldn't the gay couple just go to one of any number of other bakers? Why did they have to try and impose their views on this poor baker? Why is it, on this issue, we only see the right wing bigotry highlighted but never the Left wing intolerance of others who disagree with the LGBTQ stuff? If it were me I would have baked the damn cake. Baking a wedding cake doesn't mean you endorse the wedding. It just means you baked a damn cake. But still, I felt sorry for the dude. And I thought the gay couple who sued him were crusading zealots and intolerant jerks.

The same reason why we can't have a baker who says I won't make your cake because you're Mexican, or a woman, mentally handicapped, look like a drug addict. All of these people could just go to any number of bakers to get their cake made too. Right?
 

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I don't follow your point about HIV that you keep trying to make. Who are you suggesting was keeping HIV a secret (or a civil right??). Maybe I'm not intelligent enough to get it.

This may have been before your time. Back in the 80;s and 90's before there were maintenance medications and not a great deal was known about the virus, epidemiologists were trying to figure out what was going on and tracked it between individuals from and among homosexual males, predominantly. It was known that it was an std, that it was blood borne, and that it was deadly, with NO defense against it, and difficult to detect. The homosexual community lobbied and protested because of fears of discrimination with some justification I suppose.

At first, even health professionals could not ask the question if a patient had hiv. That was changed and the questions could be asked, but the health profession could NOT even tell government health departments like for other std's so that contacts could be informed, later tested, and their contacts could be informed likewise. Since it was blood borne, it got into the blood supply and there wasn't any way to detect it at first, therefore, many innocent people, including children were getting hiv from contaminated blood transfusionx. Testing and maintenance drugs eventually caught up, but even today, it is treated more as a civil right to privacy than a life challenging disease.

This is why I am occasionally bringing it up and I have a problem with the cause of the lgbt movement, not the individuals, many with whom I am friends, and I tell them about it, also.
 
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The same reason why we can't have a baker who says I won't make your cake because you're Mexican, or a woman, mentally handicapped, look like a drug addict. All of these people could just go to any number of bakers to get their cake made too. Right?
Apples and oranges. None of the examples you give have anything to do with a behavior, but simply belonging to a class of people. The baker in question had sold stuff to this gay couple before and had no issue with it, even though he knew they were gay. He was not excluding them from his business for belonging to a class of people. They could buy all the cupcakes they wanted and he didn't give a ****. But a wedding is an "act" with moral implications and broad social implications. And the baker was asked to lend his artistic creativity to a form of speech expression related to this activity that he found objectionable. And the Supreme Court agreed by the way. This guy won his case.

Edit: I just think too common sense should rule. So, for example, I would also support the right of a Jewish baker to refuse to bake a cake for the local Neo-nazi rally

Double edit: My own views are live and let live. I am neither conservative or liberal on this issue.
 
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I don't have a dog in this fight one way or the other. I think for the most part people talk past each other on these issues. Minds already made up and all that....
Anyway, I do not completely agree with this Tuco, although I think you are mostly right in your posts in this thread. The trouble is the "live and let live" philosophy is great, if everyone, on both sides of the issue lived it. Take the baker who did not want to bake that gay wedding cake based on his religious convictions. Why couldn't the gay couple just go to one of any number of other bakers? Why did they have to try and impose their views on this poor baker? Why is it, on this issue, we only see the right wing bigotry highlighted but never the Left wing intolerance of others who disagree with the LGBTQ stuff? If it were me I would have baked the damn cake. Baking a wedding cake doesn't mean you endorse the wedding. It just means you baked a damn cake. But still, I felt sorry for the dude. And I thought the gay couple who sued him were crusading zealots and intolerant jerks.
So let’s expand the case beyond a baker of cakes. What if a bank didn’t want to serve LGBT consumers? What if it’s a pharmacy? Or hospital? Because they are opposed to it.

Yes the baker was a stupid situation but there are real consequences to allowing businesses the right to discriminate.
 

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I don't think people spray paint swastikas on things because they think you're the nazi. They do it because they're nazis and/or they think nazis will scare you. So probably it was some nazis who did that to your church.

Let me put it to you all this way on the topic of Ron Brown:

He's free to believe what he believes. I don't agree with him, but it's his protected right. HOWEVER, I don't know of any major football program in modern times that had any problems because their coach kept his mouth shut about what he thinks of a certain demographic of people.

There are worse things he could be or think or do, but it's not a good look. It's not helpful to NU for him to be outspoken about that, it's not like we need a guy we can put on the phone when we're trying real hard to land some homophobe who runs a 4.29 in the 40.

"Boy, fellas, it's between us, Indiana and Ole Miss and I just can't convince him that we're against the gays enough to keep us in the race with those states! Get Ron and tell him I need him on this call STAT!"

That said, sounds like Walters needs to ask him how to get WR to run block.

They spray painted names on my car calling me a nazi, among other things.

I'm not arguing whether RB SHOULD have done what he did (and don't know the details of it) I am just arguing his right to do it. Especially, if it hadn't been addressed in his contract.

There are all kinds of arguments and statements on here on what people SHOULD or SHOULDN'T be doing, but that is subjective opinion, and, those opinions go both ways. No one side has exclusive rights to opinions and, as you know, opinions are like butt holes, everybody's got one.

You have some valid points. Was that going to help NU and if not, why did he do it? I guess you would have to ask RB that question. He may have looked at it as a higher priority, and that is his right.
 
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