Rocco Becht coming to Penn State?

[PSU89er]

Didn't you say Grunk was entitled to start as he had beaten out the competition? ....

I said he is the best QB on this roster, and I've consistently said, if Campbell thinks someone else is better go get him but if he does Grunk will leave because it shows that Campbell doesn't think he is the best option to win games, so Grunk will go to a staff that believes he is the best option, and get the big NIL money for being the starter.

Now, if you don't think Grunk is good enough to start at another P4 school, we are going to agree to disagree. One thing many of you are missing is that Grunk will be in his third year next year. In a perfect world, he should be able to see if he's got NFL draft potential 12 months from now, and possibly be able to leave college if he does.

Do you really think Campbell will bring Becht to PSU all the while telling him that he may not start? I think Grunk is no more likely to say I'm competing for a starting QB job than Becht is. Only a PSU homer is thinking a three year starter at a P4 is going to transfer here with the possibility of him not being the starter.

 

[JVP_Yahweh]

Didn't Grunk fly out to Ames to help recruit Campbell? This could get weird if Becht xfers to PSU

 

[rigi19040]

Actually O'Brien's offense suited Hackenberg well and he excelled. It was after Franklin took over that he went down hill.

Hackenberg was so overrated with O'Brien. Ranked near the bottom of the b10.

 

[Chumboshifko1]

Hackenberg was so overrated with O'Brien. Ranked near the bottom of the b10.

 

[Omar81]

Hackenberg and Allar were both wildly overrated. The proof was in the pudding. The prospect of a fifth year of eligibility for Allar sent chills down my spine.

 

[LB99]

Hackenberg was so overrated with O'Brien. Ranked near the bottom of the b10.

Hack was B1G Freshman of the Year in 2013 under BO’B jackwagon.

 

[LB99]

Didn't Grunk fly out to Ames to help recruit Campbell? This could get weird if Becht xfers to PSU

This sounds like a fabricated rumor.

 

[BobPSU92]

This sounds like a fabricated rumor.

I know that we hate Kraft and Neeli and have decided factually that they are grossly incompetent (), but I doubt that they turned to a college kid and said, “Go get us our coach.”

 

[Bison13]

This sounds like a fabricated rumor.

Yes, it is. The pictures of e.g. at ISU were not to recruit Campbell but rather from an official visit he took when he was in high school and they were recruiting him.

It’s funny people wanting to get Beau back and talking about how EG couldn’t beat him out for the back up spot. Anybody that got to watch practice of the two could tell that EG. was the better throwing quarterback between the two. I think it’s pretty evident that a ton of people were over valuing beau’s ability when he was here as well. Otherwise, he would’ve won the job outright at Missouri and wouldn’t be looking to transfer again.

 

[Bvillebaron]

Disagree. If his ego is so fragile that he runs away from competition then he’s never going to be great anyway. I do think he stays if Becht comes and is probably the starter at end of the year either way.

If you think Grunk could win a competition over Becht if he comes regardless of how the two of them performed in practice I have a bridge in the middle of the desert I would like to sell you. Campbell ain’t paying several million dollars to bring in a kid who started 3 years for him to ride the bench.

 

[LB99]

I know that we hate Kraft and Neeli and have decided factually that they are grossly incompetent (), but I doubt that they turned to a college kid and said, “Go get us our coach.”

Yes. Seriously. Some people can really buy into some conspiracy theory made up BS.

 

[Anon231980]

This sounds like a fabricated rumor.

Poster mixing up Grunk visited Iowa State as a senior when being recruited.

 

[rigi19040]

Hack was B1G Freshman of the Year in 2013 under BO’B jackwagon.

And still way overrated. Thàt was the result of ore season hype. He wasn't that good. Team went 7-5 and hack was terrible on 3 Rd downs. He was ranked near the bottom of the b10.

Singleton also won it in 2022. He is not even the best RB on the team from his class.

Deionn Barnes won it in 2012 and again he was not even the best psu de in his class. Nassib and zettle both had better college careers. Zettle eventually moved to dt.

 

[Blair10]

Hack was B1G Freshman of the Year in 2013 under BO’B jackwagon.

Former Nittany Lion Allen Robinson is arguably on the top 3 all time Penn State WR list.

Robinson made Hack look good by making many outrageous catches on balls that were barely catchable.

No doubt, Hack was one of the most overrated players in program history.

 

[Itraindogs]

Yes, it is. The pictures of e.g. at ISU were not to recruit Campbell but rather from an official visit he took when he was in high school and they were recruiting him.

It’s funny people wanting to get Beau back and talking about how EG couldn’t beat him out for the back up spot. Anybody that got to watch practice of the two could tell that EG. was the better throwing quarterback between the two. I think it’s pretty evident that a ton of people were over valuing beau’s ability when he was here as well. Otherwise, he would’ve won the job outright at Missouri and wouldn’t be looking to transfer again.

Beau proved at Missouri, in a offense tailored to his skill set (running), that he is not an upper echelon QB. 11 TDs/9 is are a terrible ratio. It is one reason that Drink told him that Zollers is the presumed starter and he had to compete with him next year. And once again, he bailed. I get it, he has limited if any pro prospects so he should get compensated as much as he can before he looks for a career elsewhere. I am curious to see who picks him up and for how much.

 

[NCGOLFER]

I would love to see Rocco come to Penn State but he would be foolish not to explore all his options.

 

[steelman65]

What top team is going to pick Grunk up and guarantee a starting role ? Just asking . I don’t think Grunk is transferring unless he is a starter as well .

Virginia Tech

 

[Itraindogs]

I would love to see Rocco come to Penn State but he would be foolish not to explore all his options.

Agreed. As should Penn State

 

[Bvillebaron]

Former Nittany Lion Allen Robinson is arguably on the top 3 all time Penn State WR list.

Robinson made Hack look good by making many outrageous catches on balls that were barely catchable.

No doubt, Hack was one of the most overrated players in program history.

Yeah that’s right it was all Allen Robinson making circus catches because no other QB on any team ever has WRs who make them look good by winning 50/50 balls. Geez.

 

[Bison13]

I would love to see Rocco come to Penn State but he would be foolish not to explore all his options.

In an ideal world, he comes to PSU and Grunk stays to compete for the job. I think long term EG ends up the better QB but the experience of RB allows the team to do more next year. Schedule is soft enough that his experience factor alone may get an extra win or two due to having a complete playbook from day 1 and a QB who can make some plays with his feet. Plus it still allow for EG to get reps in the first few games

 

[Bvillebaron]

All of these Grunk fans in here. Those of us who value winning want Becht. Let's say Grunk DOES enter the portal: Who do you think gets a higher grade? I mean among actual people who do this without bias.

What is Penn State “winning” next year after this year’s disaster, an upperclassmen dominated team who will be leaving for the pros or are out of eligibility and a high school recruiting class of 2? Becht’s career record in the Big 12 (never to be confused with the Big Ten) is 26-13. Grunk’s first 3 starts were against top 5 defenses and his QB rating (admittedly a small sample size) was better than Becht’s this past year. Becht has never faced a defense as good as this year’s OSU and Indiana and Grunk faced them in 2 of his first 3 starts. Grunk has 3 years of eligibility left and Becht has 1.

 

[Bvillebaron]

But what is the logic for Grunk to stay
Some of you are acting like kids are going to stay to sit--that's very rare. Grunk has way more experience than Beau did--Beau found a home. Grunk would have more options

Another rarity: you and I agree again.

WVU wants Becht bad and ISU wanted Grunk as a recruit so this is far from given that Becht comes here

 

[Bvillebaron]

Thats exactly why I think Grunk agreed to stay. It doesn't make sense otherwise.

He did? Source?

 

[KingLando]

In an ideal world, he comes to PSU and Grunk stays to compete for the job. I think long term EG ends up the better QB but the experience of RB allows the team to do more next year. Schedule is soft enough that his experience factor alone may get an extra win or two due to having a complete playbook from day 1 and a QB who can make some plays with his feet. Plus it still allow for EG to get reps in the first few games

Can you explain why there's a competition? If Becht comes here he's starting. There's no competition.
We've seen other players make horrible decisions (like Allar returning) over loyalty but I don't believe for a second Grunk stays. If he does, he needs much better advisors in his life.

 

[DaytonRickster]

Beau proved at Missouri, in a offense tailored to his skill set (running), that he is not an upper echelon QB. 11 TDs/9 is are a terrible ratio. It is one reason that Drink told him that Zollers is the presumed starter and he had to compete with him next year. And once again, he bailed. I get it, he has limited if any pro prospects so he should get compensated as much as he can before he looks for a career elsewhere. I am curious to see who picks him up and for how much.

Probably do well to drop down to G5 or FCS program.

 

[DaytonRickster]

Virginia Tech

Does VT have a returning starting QB?

 

[Bvillebaron]

He also has never competed with B1G talent teammates. Fortunately the WR coach is coming here and may be able to mesh our receivers to his ability.

Then maybe he should have a better career record than 26-13 and a higher QB rating as a 3 year starter last year than Grunk had in 6 career starts with his first 3 starts all being against top 5 defenses.

 

[KingLando]

Here's the thing I believe some are missing. Grunk stayed last year knowing Allar had one year left and he'd start in 2026. Now people expect him to sit another year. It's just not realistic especially with the film he now has.

 

[Bvillebaron]

Didn't you say Grunk was entitled to start as he had beaten out the competition? Obviously that was wrong as he didn't sniff the field until Allar was hurt; if indeed he was the better QB he would have been playing ahead of Allar. Grunk was never entitled to anything, he got the starting job by default, and does definitely not have the right to say he's earned it. Let him come back next year and face Becht if he transfers in or anyone else and earn it rightfully.

If you think Campbell is paying several million dollars to bring in a QB who started for him for 3 years to ride the bench even if Grunk looked like the second coming of Mahomes in practice I have a bridge in the middle of the desert I would like to sell you.

 

[KingLando]

If you think Campbell is paying several million dollars to bring in a QB who started for him for 3 years to ride the bench even if Grunk looked like the second coming of Mahomes in practice I have a bridge in the middle of the desert I would like to sell you.

Thank you. I dont understand what is happening.

 

[PAgeologist]

He did? Source?

None. Its just my opinion.

 

[Nitt1300]

Just a side note here: calling someone an idiot because they don't agree with you isn't really the most convincing argument

 

[OhioLion]

No, it shouldn’t.

Yes, it should. That’s my opinion, but it’s actually a fact also!!!

 

[Catch1lion]

Does VT have a returning starting QB?

Kyron Drones. He's in the portal like every qb.

 

[rigi19040]

All of these Grunk fans in here. Those of us who value winning want Becht. Let's say Grunk DOES enter the portal: Who do you think gets a higher grade? I mean among actual people who do this without bias.

What did becht ever win? 0 top 10 wins for his career.

If they bring becht the team loses grunk. Becht is not the last piece to the puzzle and next year is a rebuild. Becht will be gone after the year and still won't win anything important.

 

[KingLando]

What did becht ever win? 0 top 10 wins for his career.

If they bring becht the team loses grunk. Becht is not the last piece to the puzzle and next year is a rebuild. Becht will be gone after the year and still won't win anything important.

This lacks logic
What top 10 win did Fernando Mendoza have before going to Indiana? He was a 500 QB that couldn't beat anyone with a pulse.
At Penn State, Becht would have a different level of talent around him. Not saying he'd be Mendoza

 

[PSU89er]

Why would Grunk want to sight his sights as low as Virginia Tech? You are talking about an ACC loser right now. The last three backup QBs from PSU to transfer started at Mississippi State, Kentucky and Missouri and those guys didn't start at PSU for half a season.

Grunk leaves he's looking at Illinois Wisconsin, South Carolina or Florida. Those kinds of schools.

 

[Ludd]

If you don’t have at least two QBs who can run an offense, then you might as well just forfeit the season because it’s almost a 100% certainty that your starter is going to miss time. If PSU doesn’t bring in another experienced qb and Grunkemeyer, who is no sure thing, misses time, who in the hell is on the roster who can run an offense?

Also, you forgot that Texas last season had both Ewers and Manning, and Manning actually had to start at least two games because Ewers got hurt. So I don’t want to hear about how that’s not how it’s done anymore; any team worth its salt has multiple competent QBs and PSU right now barely has one.

This is the same thing everyone said about this season if Allar got hurt. Nobody has two QB’s equally ready to play in terms of game experience.

 

[BobPSU92]

Why would Grunk want to sight his sights as low as Virginia Tech?

RELATIONSHIPS.

“It starts with…”

 

[doctornick]

What is Penn State “winning” next year after this year’s disaster, an upperclassmen dominated team who will be leaving for the pros or are out of eligibility and a high school recruiting class of 2? Becht’s career record in the Big 12 (never to be confused with the Big Ten) is 26-13. Grunk’s first 3 starts were against top 5 defenses and his QB rating (admittedly a small sample size) was better than Becht’s this past year. Becht has never faced a defense as good as this year’s OSU and Indiana and Grunk faced them in 2 of his first 3 starts. Grunk has 3 years of eligibility left and Becht has 1.

This largely where I’m at. We would probably be marginally better with Becht in 2026 but it’s unlikely to be the difference between anything significant. We can probably get a winning record/bowl game without Becht and are unlikely to be a playoff contender even with him.

So I’d rather look to 2027 and I think using Gronk for 2026 gives us better odds for 2027 and beyond. Basically I think this team has a ton of holes to fill and QB is actually one of the positions of least need. I’d rather see money/effort/resources used elsewhere.