RJ Barrett Decision Date

BlueDevilPharmD

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It takes a real dumbass to try and compare the success of recent Duke and Kentucky players in the NBA

I don't think any Duke fans that know basketball would put Duke grads above Kentucky at this point. With AD, Bledsoe, Wall, Booker, KAT, and Cousins alone going up against Kyrie that is pretty one-sided for you guys. That is clear. Duke has some young guys that still have potential (Hood, Parker, Okafor, Ingram, Winslow) to make an impact. Duke has plenty of long-term NBA guys that had successful careers too. Some of the best were hit with injuries (Williams and Hill). So to say they are horrible or that they suck at getting guys into the NBA is not really accurate. I am from AZ so I love Booker and hope he plays lights out and I can recognize, as a basketball fan, that UK has some freaking STUDS coming out of Lexington. That does not take away from Duke having 19 current players in NBA contracts. Still, leaves us near the top of the list for recruits looking to the next level even if you occupy the #1 spot for the foreseeable future.
 

LandofOzDevil

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Directly following Cals visit.

Slow down pal. I think itll be Duke too. But lets not act like UK has 0 chance

Easy bud. I come in peace. I’m simply saying I wouldn’t read much into what you’re grasping at. We will all find out in a month or so
 

westerncat

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I don't think any Duke fans that know basketball would put Duke grads above Kentucky at this point. With AD, Bledsoe, Wall, Booker, KAT, and Cousins alone going up against Kyrie that is pretty one-sided for you guys. That is clear. Duke has some young guys that still have potential (Hood, Parker, Okafor, Ingram, Winslow) to make an impact. Duke has plenty of long-term NBA guys that had successful careers too. Some of the best were hit with injuries (Williams and Hill). So to say they are horrible or that they suck at getting guys into the NBA is not really accurate. I am from AZ so I love Booker and hope he plays lights out and I can recognize, as a basketball fan, that UK has some freaking STUDS coming out of Lexington. That does not take away from Duke having 19 current players in NBA contracts. Still, leaves us near the top of the list for recruits looking to the next level even if you occupy the #1 spot for the foreseeable future.
Read where NBA scouts and coaches have said that players coming out of UK are much better prepared to play in the NBA better than Duke players.
 
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I think a lot of that early reporting is bogus. Oregon is always linked to the Canadian Nike kids, and it's a safe bet to have Kentucky high on the list of every elite player.

I've just read too many of those anonymous tell-all player interviews over the years where they basically know where they're going from the start to believe you can really make up as much ground as the writers try and portray.

They have subscriptions to sell, and not a lot of folks fork out 10 bucks a month to read "player A liked School X two years ago and still plans on going there."

It happens some with kids who aren't elite, I'm sure. One school makes them a bigger priority, or promises them they can play point guard or start or something. Or maybe there's a coaching change or scandal or something or a kid expected to go pro comes back at their position.

But I don't think a kid like Barrett is really influenced by that stuff. He's going to play and have a very similar role no matter where he chooses.

I believe most of these kids know which school they like, take their visits, meet their coaches, and then the majority end up picking what they knew they wanted from the start. The daily and weekly internet drama is manufactured for suspense, subscriptions and to increase their profile.


This post is spot on. This kid like Reddish knows exactly where he wants to go from the start. Cal is the very best at what he does, but some minds cannot be turned. I don't know what happened in the recruiting stratosphere the last two or three years but Duke is getting just about everyone they want. Reddish will play second fiddle to Barrett.
 

Newcattitudes

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It takes a real dumbass to try and compare the success of recent Duke and Kentucky players in the NBA

I totally agree with you about UK's superior success to Dukes for NBA. This last couple of years Duke has upped their game in recruiting of top 5 players and we have seemed to slipped ever so slightly. Volume wise we are the top recruiting team still, but they are getting some real significant pieces lately with Bagley, Duval, Reddish and possibly Barrett. Again, NBA success so far, you are 100% right on.
 

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His reclass was reported over a year ago. He only just made it official a couple months ago.

Just curious, have you been in a house that has been sucked into a cyclone and was spinning wildly? Just curious....I always liked that movie...
 

DerekMcPwn

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Crystal Ball, as usual, is saying Duke in a landslide. And unfortunately, Jerry Meyer, Andrew Slater, and Evan Daniels are all in agreement with the consensus. There's no doubt that it looks bad when you have K and Capel meeting the kid at his school, with his father present, and then he almost immediately cancels his last visits and sets a decision date. Count me pessimistic and hoping for a Knox miracle.
 
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Crystal Ball, as usual, is saying Duke in a landslide. And unfortunately, Jerry Meyer, Andrew Slater, and Evan Daniels are all in agreement with the consensus. There's no doubt that it looks bad when you have K and Capel meeting the kid at his school, with his father present, and then he almost immediately cancels his last visits and sets a decision date. Count me pessimistic and hoping for a Knox miracle.

Just to play Devil's Advocate (no pun intended):

1.) The schools he cut were most likely never in the picture.

2.) To my knowledge, today was the first I had heard of a set date. This meeting at the high school occurred when? A couple of weeks ago? The setting of a date was not immediately after the visit, and came at a time after he had visited all of the "contenders".

With that said, I tend to feel like he is going to Duke as well, and that people that continue to use the "just look at the Kevin Knox recruitment" fail to see that that recruitment was more of the exception and not the rule, as Gonzo pointed out. However, I still believe that a lot of the crystal ball picks are useless until about 24-48 hours prior to the announcement.
 

DerekMcPwn

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Just to play Devil's Advocate (no pun intended):

1.) The schools he cut were most likely never in the picture.

2.) To my knowledge, today was the first I had heard of a set date. This meeting at the high school occurred when? A couple of weeks ago? The setting of a date was not immediately after the visit, and came at a time after he had visited all of the "contenders".

With that said, I tend to feel like he is going to Duke as well, and that people that continue to use the "just look at the Kevin Knox recruitment" fail to see that that recruitment was more of the exception and not the rule, as Gonzo pointed out. However, I still believe that a lot of the crystal ball picks are useless until about 24-48 hours prior to the announcement.

The meeting at Montverde Academy was last week. Here's my best pitch for UK's chances:

First, the commitment is set a month out. That is very unusual. Most commitment dates are set within days of their announcement. This suggests the decision is, at worst for UK, still a coin toss in the kid's mind, and he's giving himself the space to flip. Moreover, Cal has great Canadian connections, including current pro and prolific scorer Jamal Murray, Drake, and Barrett's "big brother" Shai Gilgeous-Alexander. Cal has demonstrated success with primary scoring option players. As impressive as Barrett's 38 points against team USA were, they pale in comparison to the 48 Malik Monk hung on UNC (the eventual national champions) in an electric atmosphere against a college-level defense. Monk and Barrett have overlapping styles and competencies. Duke already has Cam Reddish slotted in at SF, and there's no honest pitch to Barrett that doesn't involve him sharing shots with Reddish. He'd have to share at Kentucky, but not as many shots from his own position that would have otherwise been his to take. Finally, if Barrett has any interest in running point for stretches, UK will be the best option. Immanuel Quickley is better equipped to play off the ball than Tre Jones, and Cal emphasizes an offensive style (because we always have the talent to do it) where whoever grabs the ball and leads the break becomes the point guard.
 
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FrankUnderwood

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Very good news for Kentucky. Zagoria knows precisely as much about this as I do, the difference being I don't have to pretend to know more to keep a job. It's a coin flip and UK has a good chance.


Agreed. Anyone ( including posters who claim to
Be “insiders” here on RR) have absolutely no idea what barret is going to do. It looks to be Duke ? But nobody knows for sure. Just guessing
 

FrankUnderwood

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The meeting at Montverde Academy was last week. Here's my best pitch for UK's chances:

First, the commitment is set a month out. That is very unusual. Most commitment dates are set within days of their announcement. This suggests the decision is, at worst for UK, still a coin toss in the kid's mind, and he's giving himself the space to flip. Moreover, Cal has great Canadian connections, including current pro and prolific scorer Jamal Murray, Drake, and Barrett's "big brother" Shai Gilgeous-Alexander. Cal has demonstrated success with primary scoring option players. As impressive as Barrett's 38 points against team USA were, they pale in comparison to the 48 Malik Monk hung on UNC (the eventual national champions) in an electric atmosphere against a college-level defense. Monk and Barrett have overlapping styles and competencies. Duke already has Cam Reddish slotted in at SF, and there's no honest pitch to Barrett that doesn't involve him sharing shots with Reddish. He'd have to share at Kentucky, but not as many shots from his own position that would have otherwise been his to take. Finally, if Barrett has any interest in running point for stretches, UK will be the best option. Immanuel Quickley is better equipped to play off the ball than Tre Jones, and Cal emphasizes an offensive style (because we always have the talent to do it) where whoever grabs the ball and leads the break becomes the point guard.


Good post. I still think we have a chance , NEVER can count Cal out... but drake and Murray being Canadian will have no bearing whatsoever on his decision lol
 

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I enjoy hoops talk Frank. Because we have different allegiances doesn’t mean we can’t have civil rhetoric amongst one another. Btw Claire is a dime. Cheers bud.

Frank states he's got your bud...:rolleyes: (Not typing for Frank....uh, yes I am.)
 

ORCAT

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I'm not getting my hopes up.

Always my stand on these players that many feel could go either way, just wait to see what the kid announces and move on from there, whether we get him or not. Nothing else you can really do anyway so why stress about it. I know, because we're all crazy UK fans!
 

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If he goes to Duke I will lose my mind. There's not many guys I've wanted more to commit here.
It's gonna be OK. Barrett seems to be headed to Duke, but we are going to get Zion Williamson and he's the best player in this class.
 

gracetoyou

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If I'm Duke, all the confidence from a cancelled visit to Michigan & AJ being a Duke fan when younger sure seems like shaky confidence considering no one on Duke side thought AJ would wait until November...whoops he is sure is after all like he said he would all along. But don't worry...nothing to worry about [winking]
 
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When people have said Kentucky has slipped in recruiting, I've generally disagreed. But if Duke gets Barrett, I don't think you can objectively say Duke and Kentucky are 1 and 1a in terms of recruiting anymore.

The gap between Duke and Kentucky and everyone else is still vast, but Duke will have taken over the number one spot by itself.
 
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JimboBBN

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It's gonna be OK. Barrett seems to be headed to Duke, but we are going to get Zion Williamson and he's the best player in this class.
I would love for the Cats to have Zion and he is a stud. He’s not better than Barrett, though. I’m thrilled with either.
 

Newcattitudes

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When people have said Kentucky has slipped in recruiting, I've generally disagreed. But if Duke gets Barrett, I don't think you can objectively say Duke and Kentucky are 1 and 1a in terms of recruiting anymore.

The gap between Duke and Kentucky and everyone else is still vast, but Duke will have taken over the number one spot by itself.

I don't like it one bit but I have to agree. Cal will always get his, but Duke is establishing itself as number 1. Now if we get Zion, Grimes Bol Bol and Williams I'll survive.
 
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I don't think the announcement date news changes anything. Seems like he's Duke bound but certainly UK has a chance. Their confidence apparently stems from UK recruiting other targets.

I find it hilarious the Duke fans read this message board like its UK Gospel. Not one real insider posts here. There's a poster at one of the Duke sites that goes by JP that is literally an idiot. I love how he creates all these narratives about UK and Cal.