RIP Kobe
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I’ve seen you make solid posts before, so I know you have that ability within you unlike some. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt.
Empathy/sympathy, and the level and degree to which it is applied, is not and should not be based on one’s social status/wealth.
Why is that concept so hard to understand for some?
What’s funny is that the very idea that we could possibly feel a connection to an athlete is laughable to him, but he treats this board as his own cry fest and venting space to an insufferable degree.
He takes the concept of idolizing, completely reverses the idea, and posts over and over with that idea in mind. Wow.
well not according to what I saw today. I was doing some work at the UofM campus and had some free time. It was in passing so I’d have to look again to remember the source but if you fly helicopters 20+ hours per week for 20 years, it’s extremely dangerous. Can’t remember the fatality rate, but it blew my mind.
Kobe was asking for trouble flying in helicopters that much, imo.
and let’s be honest. Vehicles aren’t safe, but Kobe more than likely would have never drove himself, and would be been in large sized vehicles. He’d probably be fine right now had he opted to be driven in a limo that day.
NBA Jam was fire on the Sega Genesis when I was like 4 lol. Haven’t played since then. May have to revisit seeing that video though.
The 2K games are solid. I just wish the college games would come back.
It’s not about the other 7 people. I haven’t heard the first NBA player mention the rest unless just in passing. The media either, honestly. And I wouldn’t expect a statement from his family. They lost Gigi who was 13.
I’m fine with whatever they want to do, I just personally believe life goes on, and Kobe would have played his game had someone died in the league.
it honestly doesn’t matter though. Just sad for them it’s honestly a lot to take.
Not going to argue with you. You can look up the stats if you want. That’s what I did. Helicopters are reasonably safe. We all take chances every time we get out of bed in the morning.
That’s great and all, but can you imagine the families of the other victims rn? People are acting as if Kobe and Gianna are the only ones that died. The rest of the people’s lives on that chopper were just as important. The saddest part of it for me is that there were so many young teenagers on that flight that had so much life ahead of them. Multiple children were made orphans in the blink of an eye. Kobe was able to cement a legacy that will be remembered for generations to come. He was able to enjoy his MULTIPLE millions and live life to the fullest. A lot of people would trade years off their life for that opportunity. The least they could have done with that billboard is include the words “RIP Kobe, Gianna, AND all other passengers involved in this tragedy”. The other victims deaths are being dramatically overshadowed because they were on the same flight as Kobe Bryant.Louisville paid respects
I don't think the family owes us a statement. Definitely not one only 3 days after this has happened. Do they really need to come out say thank you to everyone for their support and all the other things people say when tragedies happen. It goes without saying that they appreciate all the condolences and support they are getting.
Let them grieve. Let them grieve for 5 days, 50 days, 500 days. However long it takes them to find whatever it is they need. I can speak from having lost a child, but there are no words. To have lost my wife and child together? My goodness. There aren't words.
Let them grieve. Let them grieve for 5 days, 50 days, 500 days. However long it takes them to find whatever it is they need. I can speak from having lost a child, but there are no words. To have lost my wife and child together? My goodness. There aren't words.
If the other 7 had died in a random crash in LA, only their families would know about it. Not that hard to understand why the incredibly famous athlete is getting all the press.
Speaking of the victims. During the Auburn/Ole Miss game they said they will be talking about Coach Altobelli during Sportscenter.
What exactly would they even say? Or what we would want them to say? Obviously they’re mourning the loss of their father and daughter. Of course, they’re thankful for the thoughts, prayers and support. I hope they don’t feel any pressure to release a statement. The family should handle this however they want to.
I didn’t say they had to run an hour long segment of the other victims on sportscenter. Obviously Kobe is on there because he played sports. I believe what I said is that the least they could have done is add the words “and all other victims involved” to that board. Why that gets under your skin so bad, I’ll never understand. Yes, we have differing opinions. Now move along.
They haven't determined the cause, but one thing they are saying is..
Their Sikorsky S-76B that would whisk them roughly 90 miles from Orange to Ventura Counties, crossing over the heart of Los Angeles, was "like the Cadillac Escalade" of choppers, recalled Kurt Deetz, a former pilot for Bryant. That model is a sleek craft with dual engines equipped with "all the bells and whistles," Deetz said.
Yet it lacked a key safety feature: a terrain awareness and warning system, TAWS, a National Transportation Safety Board official said Tuesday. The NTSB had recommended it be required on large passenger-carrying choppers after a Texas crash in 2004, but that never happened.
I'm not a Helo pilot though so I don't know if this could have actually made a real difference.
Their Sikorsky S-76B that would whisk them roughly 90 miles from Orange to Ventura Counties, crossing over the heart of Los Angeles, was "like the Cadillac Escalade" of choppers, recalled Kurt Deetz, a former pilot for Bryant. That model is a sleek craft with dual engines equipped with "all the bells and whistles," Deetz said.
Yet it lacked a key safety feature: a terrain awareness and warning system, TAWS, a National Transportation Safety Board official said Tuesday. The NTSB had recommended it be required on large passenger-carrying choppers after a Texas crash in 2004, but that never happened.
I'm not a Helo pilot though so I don't know if this could have actually made a real difference.
you’re not wrong except for the last part. There’s definitely a reason they should. Also definitely a reason they don’t.
Kobe helped numerous families in Philadelphia too. Bought an accessible home and special wheelchair for a young man who was a shooting victim and paralyzed. We are only now reading about some of them. He went back to his old high school many times and would work out with any student-athletes who were around.
Kobe Bryant is an nba great.
If he was 85 and died of natural causes it wouldn’t be this big of a deal.
The incident in Colorado while scandalous in nature wasn’t a crime. He had rough sex with a girl who was into then had regrets maybe bc it was so rough.
Wilt chamberlain claimed to have sex with what 40,000 women?
Magic Johnson has had aids for 30 years. I know HIV.
Sex is what nba players are doing on the side night in and night out.
Kobe will always be an nba great we will all face the great equalizer at some point.
Helicopters of the stature of Kobe’s are very safe. Safer than driving. These helicopters don’t crash unless you ram it into something. Pilot error is to blame.
If he was 85 and died of natural causes it wouldn’t be this big of a deal.
The incident in Colorado while scandalous in nature wasn’t a crime. He had rough sex with a girl who was into then had regrets maybe bc it was so rough.
Wilt chamberlain claimed to have sex with what 40,000 women?
Magic Johnson has had aids for 30 years. I know HIV.
Sex is what nba players are doing on the side night in and night out.
Kobe will always be an nba great we will all face the great equalizer at some point.
Helicopters of the stature of Kobe’s are very safe. Safer than driving. These helicopters don’t crash unless you ram it into something. Pilot error is to blame.
Ok so now I'm watching Sportscenter and before they go to K talking and Dook highlights they actually say, Kobe said, If he had gone to college it would ave been to Dook. LMFAO So the other day it was mentioned and the actual quote was Dook would have been among his top choices. Of course, remember that I think Kobe said that when he was an adult and had played for K in the Olympics as a grown man. ESPN is gross with their agenda. We all know you love Dook but stop twisting a man's words who's gone now.
Your preamble to your billboard discussion was to say that people are acting like Kobe and his daughter are the only ones who died. They aren’t. You’re wrong about that.
And I don’t know who put up a billboard, but again, as a private citizen, you are more than free to spend your money to put up your own billboard. Or you can just complain about how others spend their money.
For the record, I don’t care if people want to honor Kobe or not.
I don’t care if people want to honor the other victims or not.
I don’t care if someone wants to honor all of them or none of them.
I think we should respect the rights of people to think how they want to think, feel how they want to feel, and spend their time, money, and energy how they see fit.
I don’t care if people want to honor the other victims or not.
I don’t care if someone wants to honor all of them or none of them.
I think we should respect the rights of people to think how they want to think, feel how they want to feel, and spend their time, money, and energy how they see fit.
I never said they "owe" us a statement. What a pompous a$$ I'd be if I said that. All I said is that we haven't heard from her and I imagine she's in denial. Pretty simple.
I wasn't addressing what you said. More just making a general statement. I didn't think you were saying anything out of line.
I can tell from your post that you aren't paying sufficient attention.
And that's okay. It's not required.
Just know that you are uninformed on this one.
If you get a chance and you haven't already seen it before, watch "Kobe Bryant doin' work" on youtube. It's a game between the Lakers and Spurs back in the day. The camera stays on Kobe the whole game and even goes behind the scenes in the locker room at halftime. Kobe narrates the game. It's really good - he was like a second coach on the floor.
In one post, you say that "it's not about the other 7"
In this post, you say that the other 7 should get as much attention as Kobe and his daughter.
So, back to my point.
There were nine deaths.
While I am pretty much 100% certain that the NBA and the Lakers will not give as much attention to the other 7/(8), I'm also pretty confident that at least one small aspect of why the Lakers wanted the game postponed on Tuesday, is that they were in no position to consider how to process any of it, and how to proceed.
When they finally take the floor on Friday, part of what they will do is recognize Kobe first, his daughter second, and to some extent, recognize the fact that there were 7 others, including one who was fairly well known in the area.
When the decision was made to postpone the game, they were still collecting bodies off the side of that mountain.
So, "Kobe would have wanted to play. He was a warrior."
I'm not so sure about that.
If you told Kobe, "Hey Kobe, you are going to die in a plane crash, but we are going to remember you and play a game with heavy hearts, while they are still in the process of collecting and identifying bodies, including your daughter. Is that cool?"
There's an excellent chance that Kobe, even with all his faults, might have said, "You know what, let's postpone this one."
I don't do instagram. I don't do any social media. It's on TMZ, as I said. PS, you tend to be a condescending, smarmy smart a$$ with many of your posts. But that's what many do while hiding in anonymity.
The "LOL" was the part of being condescending. Seems to be easy for him while hiding behind a computer.
Condescending? Nah that’s a bit dramatic. Just thought it was interesting.
Edit- apparently she just posted (got a notification from Fox News...)
So there ya go. You got your update.
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I just HOPE that they (passengers and pilot) were not able to see anything. Please, i pray that they did not know what was about to happen, that they were not frightened. 
lol has turned more into just a causal figure of speech with written word/ text etc.
I Just think it’s...peculiar that he seemed so hell bent and almost stalking her social media to the point of “wondering” why she hadn’t commented about her dead husband and dead daughter when just 2 days prior they fell to a horrific and grotesque death.
For many social media isn’t the forefront of their day nor is it their identity. For some it is I guess.
I can’t possibly fathom worrying about posting on Facebook or Instagram if my wife and son had just been brutally killed in a helicopter crash. At the end of the day, despite celebrity status and millions of $$ we are all human and his wife is probably just trying to make it through the day without collapsing from grief.