RIP-Bobby Cox

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Maddux and Glavine lived six inches off the plate their entire careers. Hall of Famers for sure, but they absolutely had different strike zones than everyone else.
As a former Bucs fan, I'm sure if you would have asked me in the early 90s I would have agreed but...many others had the same large strike zones. Drabek in his prime did for example. Guys that were good got "the benefit of the doubt" from umps
 
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As a Giants fan back in the late 80's, early 90's the 1993 season still stings. Will Clark, Bonds, Robby Thompson, Matt Williams, and some really good pitching to go along with it all. 103 wins didn't get them a playoff spot thanks to the Braves.

I will say that I saw Avery, Glavine, Smoltz, and Maddux all the time during spring training - the team had a corporate membership at what is now the Dye Preserve. They were all cool, and all completely different in every way imaginable from looks to personalities. Avery was the only one that would go out with us at night. He was younger.

They knew I was a Giants fan and when I saw them in the spring of 94, Smoltz laughed and said "Well, if we were in the East like we should be, this wouldn't have happened!"

As for Bobby, RIP. People will say you should have won more, but who's to say.
Did you ever play golf with any of them?

We know Smoltz is a good golfer. Were the others any good?
 

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Cox was great manager but wow talk about playoff futility. I think he won the division 14 straight times yet only one World Series ring in '95.
 

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I played with all of them. Mostly Smoltz probably. They were all good players other than Avery who was a beginner.

Glavine played right handed btw. Avery left handed.
 
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What exactly is inaccurate and unfair about these comments? The details are factual. Bobby Cox kept his job. “Osuna of the Braves,” as he referred to himself while trying to avoid a DUI bust, kept hitting cleanup. Cops responded to Osuna’s house as well, and reported injuries to the woman. What exactly is inaccurate and unfair?
You claimed the Braves did a great job of trying to cover up the domestic battery charge which is complete BS since it was witnessed by cops and reported immediately. If you think any MLB team would suspend any player suspected of DUI before he is charged you are fooling yourself. You aren’t a Pirates fan by any chance?
LINK: MLB Turns a Blind Eye....

Once is too much........just hope he never did it again, although as the article points out

".......just because someone is arrested only one time for domestic violence does not mean it was a one-time thing. In fact, the biggest predictor of future violence is past violence. It’s likely that it’s happened before, and it will happen again."

I was about to defend Michael Vick and say, “now wait just a minute….. fighting dogs is bad, but it’s not quite the same as murdering people or sleeping with teenagers….”

Then I remembered that Mike Vick went to Va Tech & Franklin is now the coach of Va Tech. Go ahead, lump Vick in with the wife beaters, pedo’s and murdering scumbags.
You really should consider getting help for your Franklin Derangement Syndrome. I mean really.
 
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Cox was great manager but wow talk about playoff futility. I think he won the division 14 straight times yet only one World Series ring in '95.
As a life long Braves’ fan I absolutely agree. Cox was great during the regular season but constantly out maneuvered strategically in the playoffs, especially by Joe Torre. Ask my wife how many times I yelled at the TV for Cox to replace a starter during all those World Series losses only to see him lumber out to the mound to replace him AFTER the damage was done.
 
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As a life long Braves’ fan I absolutely agree. Cox was great during the regular season but constantly out maneuvered strategically in the playoffs, especially by Joe Torre. Ask my wife how many times I yelled at the TV for Cox to replace a starter during all those World Series losses only to see him lumber out to the mound to replace him AFTER the damage was done.
Torre did that to a lot of people though...if we want to be fair
 
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