Rick Dickson

HuffyCane

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I wonder if they can name a replacement AD and replace Rick sooner especially if he is given one of those “consulting” jobs where nothing is required for several months after retirement.
Possible. But not preferred for budgeting reasons I’m sure. Academic and budget year begins 1 July.
 

HuffyCane

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Pete Muther and Kortne Gosha are slated to interview.
Assuming the above is true:

Muther played tight end for Rader. I’m unsure of other qualities and experience necessary to be successful.

Gosha likes to build things. He’s a facilities manager. He got sideways with FAMU and his conference for arguably exceeding his authority and violating conference agreements by licensing his own streaming programming. Arguably.
 

I.I.

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They are probably a couple of Rick recommendations that the committee feels obligated to follow up on.
 

quincy101

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Sometimes the best solution is right in your own back yard. In TU's case, at 81st & Lewis. Scoop has been touting their AD, a guy named Tim Johnson, heavily. A look at his resume has convinced me. An Arkie grad, he spent several years as an assistant to Terry Don Phillips at Clemson and has been at ORU since 2015. Fundraising and enrollment (in part due to sports success) have increased a ton under this guy, while sports such as hoops, baseball, track, golf & soccer have won league championships. He also directed the renovation of the Mabee and construction of the new athletic center.

Haisten may be on to something here.
 

TU_BLA

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Sometimes the best solution is right in your own back yard. In TU's case, at 81st & Lewis. Scoop has been touting their AD, a guy named Tim Johnson, heavily. A look at his resume has convinced me. An Arkie grad, he spent several years as an assistant to Terry Don Phillips at Clemson and has been at ORU since 2015. Fundraising and enrollment (in part due to sports success) have increased a ton under this guy, while sports such as hoops, baseball, track, golf & soccer have won league championships. He also directed the renovation of the Mabee and construction of the new athletic center.

Haisten may be on to something here.
What ORU has built the last few years in athletics is really remarkable considering they probably have fewer alumni than TU and most of them are penniless missionaries. They do tap into the evangelical church support who have no other affiliation with the university other than they remember Oral Roberts and liked to listen to him preach. Success in basketball and the CWS run last year are big deals though and contribute to the momentum on that side of things. When I worked there they were always talking about cutting this and cutting that and cutting depts. and outsourcing. It sort of sucks. I left just before all of that growth.

If Johnson has been there since 2015, then he was working under Mike Carter and Mike is absolutely one of those good to know handshake guys. And he closed fundraising deals like no one I've ever seen. His work was largely underappreciated and he and Wilson (ORU Pres) did not get along privately. Mike disagreed with the decision to let Scott Sutton go, he disagreed with the decision about the tattoos that Wilson wanted to put on the books. I had a conversation with him just before leaving ORU and he was so pissed about all that stuff. Obviously Johnson has found working at ORU and under Wilson OK and ORU's athletic dept. is in a much better place than what he came into. I think he would be a HR hire here if we can lure him away.
 
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HuffyCane

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What ORU has built the last few years in athletics is really remarkable considering they probably have fewer alumni than TU and most of them are penniless missionaries. They do tap into the evangelical church support who have no other affiliation with the university other than they remember Oral Roberts and liked to listen to him preach. Success in basketball and the CWS run last year are big deals though and contribute to the momentum on that side of things. When I worked there they were always talking about cutting this and cutting that and cutting depts. and outsourcing. It sort of sucks. I left just before all of that growth.

If Johnson has been there since 2015, then he was working under Mike Carter and Mike is absolutely one of those good to know handshake guys. And he closed fundraising deals like no one I've ever seen. His work was largely underappreciated and he and Wilson (ORU Pres) did not get along privately. Mike disagreed with the decision to let Scott Sutton go, he disagreed with the decision about the tattoos that Wilson wanted to put on the books. I had a conversation with him just before leaving ORU and he was so pissed about all that stuff. Obviously Johnson has found working at ORU and under Wilson OK and ORU's athletic dept. is in a much better place than what he came into. I think he would be a HR hire here if we can lure him away.
ORU has 61.000 alumni roughly spread across the globe. TU has approximately 50,000. Nearly all of whom live within 300 miles of campus.
 
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TulsaGoldenBoy#7

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Assuming the above is true:

Muther played tight end for Rader. I’m unsure of other qualities and experience necessary to be successful.

Gosha likes to build things. He’s a facilities manager. He got sideways with FAMU and his conference for arguably exceeding his authority and violating conference agreements by licensing his own streaming programming. Arguably.
It is my understanding that Muther has built quite a reputation and career in the KU Athletic Department and at least one higher up at TU is close to him.
 
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Tulsafanzz

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KU & TU are completely different situations. TU can’t operate its athletic department like a P5 state university. We can’t rely solely on alumni, like a large state university. We need to model our athletic marketing, at least partially, like a professional sports franchise.
 

TUcandoit

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KU & TU are completely different situations. TU can’t operate its athletic department like a P5 state university. We can’t rely solely on alumni, like a large state university. We need to model our athletic marketing, at least partially, like a professional sports franchise.
If only we had alumni who were the CEO of multi billion dollar companies like a Walmart or a QT...... :D
 

Gmoney4WW

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I didn't remember that they had 10k in support of a bowl, in front of bowl officials. Too bad we can't do that now. We barely got more than that for the conference championship in 2012. Times sure can change in 20 years.
 

dlsnid

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I was at that bowl I was amazed how many fans we had a long ways from Tulsa. We whipped San Diego State pretty good. Probably one of our top teams ever along with the 1964 team. I didn’t see the teams in late 40’s and early 50’s
 

Tulsafanzz

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I was at that bowl I was amazed how many fans we had a long ways from Tulsa. We whipped San Diego State pretty good. Probably one of our top teams ever along with the 1964 team. I didn’t see the teams in late 40’s and early 50’s

I was there in Anaheim, too. It was awesome walking up to the stadium with the Goodyear blimp overhead! That very large turnout and the 2005 Liberty Bowl were the largest TU bowl crowds I remember. Both were surprisingly large and very impressive!
 

'Cane-man

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We had a few San Diego St. students sitting near us. Of course, they thought we were nobodies from nowhere. The "Nobodies" inflicted a classic display of smashmouth football that night. Ron Jackson was a battering ram, 211 yards on 46 carries.

TU held a pregame party at a facility close to the stadium. It was packed. Dickson worked his tail off to get us that bid.
 

TU1NNJ

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I was there as well and brought about 6 friends that lived in S. CA. Two of them were SDSU grads that were surprised by all the TU fans that surrounded them. Ron Jackson outplayed Marshall Faulk, our O-line looked great and we were resourceful on defense and special times.
 

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We had a few San Diego St. students sitting near us. Of course, they thought we were nobodies from nowhere. The "Nobodies" inflicted a classic display of smashmouth football that night. Ron Jackson was a battering ram, 211 yards on 46 carries.

TU held a pregame party at a facility close to the stadium. It was packed. Dickson worked his tail off to get us that bid.
I was in the band at that time and had the privilege of attending. Rick clearly was the only reason we ended up in the bowl that the establishment wanted to keep us out of. Every part of that experience was first class, be it the coverage, rally, parties, accommodations, etc.. He was successful in making that part of TU history happen, obstacles be damned, and something that I don't believe would be possible in today's environment. He was exactly what we needed during both stints and deserves a well deserved requirement and every bit of appreciation we can give.

San Diego St. and the pundits had no idea what was coming, and they got a major arse kicking through raw physical domination. Loved every minute of it, though it would have been nice if the temperatures weren't unseasonably cold, and it wasn't raining and cold during the Disney parade/rally.
 

HuffyCane

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I was in the band at that time and had the privilege of attending. Rick clearly was the only reason we ended up in the bowl that the establishment wanted to keep us out of. Every part of that experience was first class, be it the coverage, rally, parties, accommodations, etc.. He was successful in making that part of TU history happen, obstacles be damned, and something that I don't believe would be possible in today's environment. He was exactly what we needed during both stints and deserves a well deserved requirement and every bit of appreciation we can give.

San Diego St. and the pundits had no idea what was coming, and they got a major arse kicking through raw physical domination. Loved every minute of it, though it would have been nice if the temperatures weren't unseasonably cold, and it wasn't raining and cold during the Disney parade/rally.
So many of those guys, Rubley especially, took a beating during the ‘88 and ‘89 seasons. It was pretty sweet seeing it pay off for them in the end.
 

TU1NNJ

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Forgot to mention that Rick encouraged fans to and I was calling the bowl(s) and asking are you considering Tulsa? I was doing it between appointments and my secretary knew how much TU going to a bowl game meant to me. She got the phone numbers and began calling the bowls saying, “what about Tulsa”? She then got a few of her friends in our company to do so. Bet the bowls thought our NC alumni base was huge.

PS - because of the Freedom Bowl in 91, the Independence Bowl in 76 and 89 TU has been in a bowl game in every decade since the 1930’s! Very few schools can claim that.
 
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bluegold70

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we had a pretty dang good crowd at the armed forces bowl when we played utah.....i think utah had maybe 10 fans on their side of the field and 6 of those were from ft. worth........

:TU: :TU: :TU: :TU: :TU::TU::TU:
 

Weatherdemon

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we had a pretty dang good crowd at the armed forces bowl when we played utah.....i think utah had maybe 10 fans on their side of the field and 6 of those were from ft. worth........

:TU: :TU: :TU: :TU: :TU::TU::TU:
Still haven’t figured out why we didn’t even try on our last possession. Standing in the stands at the end of that game was the only time I ever had an inkling of disappointment in Kragthorpe.
 
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goldenhurricane2

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Still haven’t figured out why we didn’t even try on our last possession. Standing in the stands at the end of that game was the only time I ever had an inkling of disappointment in Kragthorpe.
Those Charlie Stubbs bubble screens were so predictable.
 

TulsaGoldenBoy#7

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Muther interviewed. Doesn't sound like he will be progressing.
Troy Austin interviewed as well.
No word on Gosha or other targets.
 

HuffyCane

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I will be very surprised, perhaps pleasantly, if it’s anyone the community or the fans have heard mentioned, whether in the media or word of mouth.