Rex and 500k

Dr. H Lecter

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Agreed...

there were college running backs way back in the day that said they were offered "500,000" to go to certain colleges... So, that number has been thrown out there for other elite level athletes...

Who knows...

I'm inclined not to believe or like anything about REX theses days, but don't doubt for a minute that he wasn't offered money. Heck, it happens all the time NOW, and even with FBI wiretaps, nothing can be done about it...
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He also said it during a broadcast he was doing.. The other guy with him said I wouldn't say that publically and bill said,, what are they gonna do? Make me ineligible? Fine me? Lol..
Bill Walton is crazier than Rex. He is totally being hyperbolic with that comment. No way he was being serious. Its well known that 60s 70s UCLA under Wooden were being paid. But no way they received more than a few thousand bucks back then. NCAA basketball was not that big.
 
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GonzoCat90

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All that **** has been debunked. The stuff about other schools has been proven with evidence. The stuff about UK has just been words.

We change what constitutes proof depending on the target though.

I mean surely it seems odd that we always debunk the Kentucky rumors and the others get proven true and then accepted as fact.

LSU fans will tell you there's no proof of payments. Louisville fans will tell you nobody they paid played in any games for them. There's always some perfectly reasonable explanation if you want there to be, and stone cold proof if you're looking for it.

If we believe that LSU and auburn and Duke and Kansas and Carolina and Louisville and whoever else are all cheating, it'd be quite the coincidence if we just landed the 4-5 guys every year who are too honest to take any money.

The important thing is to not leave any proof or be sloppy or reckless. It's built into how the whole system works and if you follow the code you keep rolling along.
 

GonzoCat90

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So do you believe Rex was offered the equivalent of over 1 mil back then? Or is it more likely he he prefers the equivalent of 1 mil Twitter likes today?

It’s obvious which is more likely. Right?

If the amount is what you're hung up on, you're missing the point.

Do you believe no one offered him or his family any money?
 
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If you think it's outside the realm of possibility that someone, even us, offered Rex a huge sum of money to play basketball, I'm not sure what planet you're living on.

It's interesting that Mills was a setup and the Davis story wasn't true and Bam didn't get paid and Rex is lying but we believe virtually everything that comes out about other programs or players getting paid.

I mean, what are the odds? The whole sport is crawling with illegal benefits and has been for 60 years or more, but we're always clean and no one else is? Cmon lol.

The reality is it doesn't matter. Like at all. It's like steroids in baseball. Anything that widespread and pervasive is basically going to balance out in the end.

But feel free to go on twitter and tell Rex what you think. I'm sure he'll hate that. Guy can't stand arguing or attention.
Horrible, cynical take. Everyone cheats, so have at it? Barry Bonds and Lance Armstrong fan? Bernie Madoff? Things really balanced out for those frauds. Besides, if this story was true, do you think this unhinged attention ***** could keep it secret all these years?
 

GonzoCat90

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Horrible, cynical take. Everyone cheats, so have at it? Barry Bonds and Lance Armstrong fan? Bernie Madoff? Things really balanced out for those frauds. Besides, if this story was true, do you think this unhinged attention ***** could keep it secret all these years?

You realize your way is the way it is, right? Like according to the rules that's all illegal and the NCAA will punish you and all that. How's that working out?

Lance Armstrong and Barry Bonds cheated and dominated the two dirtiest sports on the planet. Hell, Bonds is one of the best ever who *started* cheating to keep up.

Bernie Madoff? Maybe relax a little lol.

And Rex kept lots of awful things about himself very quiet for a very long time. It's only recently he's started sharing that stuff.
 

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If you think it's outside the realm of possibility that someone, even us, offered Rex a huge sum of money to play basketball, I'm not sure what planet you're living on.

It's interesting that Mills was a setup and the Davis story wasn't true and Bam didn't get paid and Rex is lying but we believe virtually everything that comes out about other programs or players getting paid.

I mean, what are the odds? The whole sport is crawling with illegal benefits and has been for 60 years or more, but we're always clean and no one else is? Cmon lol.

The reality is it doesn't matter. Like at all. It's like steroids in baseball. Anything that widespread and pervasive is basically going to balance out in the end.

But feel free to go on twitter and tell Rex what you think. I'm sure he'll hate that. Guy can't stand arguing or attention.
The AD rumor was made up out of thin air by salty coaches that we poached him from, there was never any anything to it. The Bam rumour was made up by UNC and NC state fans as they were mad we took him for their state. Compare that to Zion living in a 900k house. Do you think Zion and his family paid 900k for that house or do you think it was given to him in exchange for him playing at Duke. If we were cheating we would be reeling in the #1 class every year. Cal has been so clean throughout his years, other coaches and fan-bases have to make up BS to try to make it look like he is dirty when he really isnt
 

Dr. H Lecter

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If the amount is what you're hung up on, you're missing the point.

Do you believe no one offered him or his family any money?
Actually the amount is pivotal in the point. Had he sai that he was offered 25K then we might all believe it. That would be $100k in todays dollars but even then that amount would be high.

But using an adjusted amount of $1.2 million....is just nonsense and totally unbelievable and makes him appear to be looking for attention....which he clearly has done before. He doesn't have or deserve credibility.
 

GonzoCat90

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Actually the amount is pivotal in the point. Had he sai that he was offered 25K then we might all believe it. That would be $100k in todays dollars but even then that amount would be high.

But using an adjusted amount of $1.2 million....is just nonsense and totally unbelievable and makes him appear to be looking for attention....which he clearly has done before. He doesn't have or deserve credibility.

Doing adjusted economic equivalency on illegal recruiting payments is hilarious to me.

I mean if your argument is that Rex Chapman exaggerates to make himself sound more important, sure. I don't think that's news.

But I think people are using that to discredit the actual point of his story because it ultimately incriminates us.

If someone said Zion was paid $2 million to go to Duke, we'd believe it even if the number was way lower than that.
 

Cawood86_rivals

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If you think it's outside the realm of possibility that someone, even us, offered Rex a huge sum of money to play basketball, I'm not sure what planet you're living on.

It's interesting that Mills was a setup and the Davis story wasn't true and Bam didn't get paid and Rex is lying but we believe virtually everything that comes out about other programs or players getting paid.

I mean, what are the odds? The whole sport is crawling with illegal benefits and has been for 60 years or more, but we're always clean and no one else is? Cmon lol.

The reality is it doesn't matter. Like at all. It's like steroids in baseball. Anything that widespread and pervasive is basically going to balance out in the end.

But feel free to go on twitter and tell Rex what you think. I'm sure he'll hate that. Guy can't stand arguing or attention.
Of course you believe and take any chance to bash UK and it's fanbase. You must have an alarm that goes off when a topic comes that gives you a chance to try and seem uber enlightened and intelligent.
We're so lucky to have someone with your intellect on here to keep us informed.
 
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GonzoCat90

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The AD rumor was made up out of thin air by salty coaches that we poached him from, there was never any anything to it. The Bam rumour was made up by UNC and NC state fans as they were mad we took him for their state. Compare that to Zion living in a 900k house. Do you think Zion and his family paid 900k for that house or do you think it was given to him in exchange for him playing at Duke. If we were cheating we would be reeling in the #1 class every year. Cal has been so clean throughout his years, other coaches and fan-bases have to make up BS to try to make it look like he is dirty when he really isnt

Like I said, every allegation against us is jealous conspiracy talk.

Every allegation against everyone else is true.

Whole sport is dirty we're just finding the honest kids and kicking *** at a recruiting level rarely seen before.
 
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GonzoCat90

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Of course you believe and take any chance to bash UK and it's fanbase. You must have an alram that goes off when a topic comes that gives you a chance to try and seem uber enlightened and intelligent.
We're so lucky to have someone with your intellect on here to keep us informed.

Read what you typed again and see how much like a lunatic you sound.

Feel free to actually contribute something anytime.
 

BigCat241

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Like I said, every allegation against us is jealous conspiracy talk.

Every allegation against everyone else is true.

Whole sport is dirty we're just finding the honest kids and kicking *** at a recruiting level rarely seen before.
So why dont we bring in the #1 class each year? Why do we miss on guys like Banchero and others if we do cheat?
 

Nubb16

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As Bill Walton said in HIS book....(paraphrase) He took a paycut to go to the NBA...

$500,000 is a totally believable amount ; i.e Cam Newton, Zion Williamson, etc. It's out there...
Yeah that number is pretty believable in today’s world, but I’m having a hard time believing it in 1986.
 

GonzoCat90

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So why dont we bring in the #1 class each year? Why do we miss on guys like Banchero and others if we do cheat?

did you read the rest of what I said? Do you think everyone who cheats gets the #1 class? How would that work?

Also we have overwhelmingly gotten the number one class over the last decade. You're not making the point you think you are if that's your criteria.
 

Cawood86_rivals

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Read what you typed again and see how much like a lunatic you sound.

Feel free to actually contribute something anytime.
Well aware of what I typed and well aware of how you always post againt UK and it's fans any chance you get.
Always the I'm higher evolved than you peons approach as well.

Rex is a well known liar, addict, thief and ego maniac. He lied about Cal to the Lakers. He couldn't care less about UK and it's fans until he bottomed out and needed help. He used UK and it's fans to get him out of the ditch.

He could have been beloved as any UK player to ever play here but he's a royal richard and only cares about himself.

Like you, his ego makes him think that he's better and his opinion matters more than anyone else. You always take the route of UK is bad and it's fanbase is as well. No wonder you believe Rex.
 

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did you read the rest of what I said? Do you think everyone who cheats gets the #1 class? How would that work?

Also we have overwhelmingly gotten the number one class over the last decade. You're not making the point you think you are if that's your criteria.
No, Duke started racking up the #1 classes around 2014 which is when they started paying. Banchero was reported to have Duke in like 5th place and he all of a sudden annouces for Duke? If we cheated he would be at UK right now
 
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No, Duke started racking up the #1 classes around 2014 which is when they started paying. Banchero was reported to have Duke in like 5th place and he all of a sudden annouces for Duke? If we cheated he would be at UK right now

We've finished first or second every year since 2014 (and first the years before that).

You are sure Duke cheats. That's why they're number one, right?

Do you believe Memphis, Kansas, Arizona, Louisville, LSU, Auburn etc cheat? Because we're out recruiting them overall.

If Duke is #1 because they cheat, you can't possibly believe we're clean at #2 ahead of all those schools you believe are cheating.
 

GonzoCat90

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Well aware of what I typed and well aware of how you always post againt UK and it's fans any chance you get.
Always the I'm higher evolved than you peons approach as well.

Rex is a well known liar, addict, thief and ego maniac. He lied about Cal to the Lakers. He couldn't care less about UK and it's fans until he bottomed out and needed help. He used UK and it's fans to get him out of the ditch.

He could have been beloved as any UK player to ever play here but he's a royal richard and only cares about himself.

Like you, his ego makes him think that he's better and his opinion matters more than anyone else. You always take the route of UK is bad and it's fanbase is as well. No wonder you believe Rex.

In what way do I believe UK or our fan base are bad? If my argument is that everyone is dirty and cheating is part of recruiting, that doesn't paint us in a negative light.

There's absolutely nothing more evolved about using common sense and looking at patterns to make inferences.

But again, instead of contributing anything you're here to whine about me. Feel free to use the ignore feature. Nobody was nasty to each other until you showed up. The rest of us are here to discuss topics related to Kentucky basketball.
 

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We've finished first or second every year since 2014 (and first the years before that).

You are sure Duke cheats. That's why they're number one, right?

Do you believe Memphis, Kansas, Arizona, Louisville, LSU, Auburn etc cheat? Because we're out recruiting them overall.

If Duke is #1 because they cheat, you can't possibly believe we're clean at #2 ahead of all those schools you believe are cheating.
Well UK's brand and success in the pros is far greater than all of those other schools you listed, so guys have more of an incentive to come here outside of money
 
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GonzoCat90

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Well UK's brand and success in the pros is far greater than all of those other schools you listed, so guys have more of an incentive to come here outside of money

they've all had guys drafted high too though. Duke, Kansas, and Arizona have had number one picks. The others are putting guys in the lottery.

Besides, nobody gives Duke credit for Zion. Bill Self didn't make Wiggins the number one pick. I think the SGA and Herro's of the world want the UK stage for development, but those elite elite guys don't change their stock much overall.

Either way, you can absolutely reach your NBA dreams at those schools. And guys are even choosing unproven routes because those schools are buying them.

So if all that's true, it makes you wonder how and why we can overcome ALL of that, EVERY year, without bending the rules.

It's like saying Sammy Sosa must be clean because Mark McGwire hit more home runs per season.
 
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they've all had guys drafted high too though. Duke, Kansas, and Arizona have had number one picks. The others are putting guys in the lottery.

Besides, nobody gives Duke credit for Zion. Bill Self didn't make Wiggins the number one pick. I think the SGA and Herro's of the world want the UK stage for development, but those elite elite guys don't change their stock much overall.

Either way, you can absolutely reach your NBA dreams at those schools. And guys are even choosing unproven routes because those schools are buying them.

So if all that's true, it makes you wonder how and why we can overcome ALL of that, EVERY year, without bending the rules.

It's like saying Sammy Sosa must be clean because Mark McGwire hit more home runs per season.
But why has Duke literally beat us for virtually every recruit we have gone head to head since 2015 for if we cheat? If we really did cheat we would be able to get at least a few from them
 
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GonzoCat90

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But why has Duke literally beat us for virtually every recruit we have gone head to head since 2015 for if we cheat? If we really did cheat we would be able to get at least a few from them

Because they're also cheating.

Maybe they're able to be more brazen because of K's untouchable reputation.

Maybe they're able to funnel things through their team USA and Nike connections better than we are.

Maybe K's relationship with Wes is better now.

Maybe we had green guys like Joel Justus who were getting duped while trying to learn the ropes.

Maybe they just prioritized better and made better offers. I mean Sean Miller is on tape making payments and we grabbed kids away from Arizona. Same with Kansas. They're been blatantly cheating because they felt so outdueled by schools like us and Duke.

I just can't wrap my head around the world that we all know exists, and has existed for decades, with us being clean while in the midst of an all time great recruiting run.

Yes we develop pros. Yes Cal welcomed the OAD stuff first. But we've seen that kids will go to Oklahoma State or UNLV if the price is right. You're not overcoming that consistently and playing by the rules.
 

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The AD rumor was made up out of thin air by salty coaches that we poached him from, there was never any anything to it. The Bam rumour was made up by UNC and NC state fans as they were mad we took him for their state. Compare that to Zion living in a 900k house. Do you think Zion and his family paid 900k for that house or do you think it was given to him in exchange for him playing at Duke. If we were cheating we would be reeling in the #1 class every year. Cal has been so clean throughout his years, other coaches and fan-bases have to make up BS to try to make it look like he is dirty when he really isnt

The AD rumor was made up out of thin air by salty coaches that we poached him from, there was never any anything to it. The Bam rumour was made up by UNC and NC state fans as they were mad we took him for their state. Compare that to Zion living in a 900k house. Do you think Zion and his family paid 900k for that house or do you think it was given to him in exchange for him playing at Duke. If we were cheating we would be reeling in the #1 class every year. Cal has been so clean throughout his years, other coaches and fan-bases have to make up BS to try to make it look like he is dirty when he really isnt
We were reeling in the #1 class every year until Wes moved on. I'm a huge UK fan, but I'm neither naive nor hypocritical. As far as the Rex hate, it is good to see that so many of our fans on here have never made a mistake. At least he wears his.
 

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Actually the amount is pivotal in the point. Had he sai that he was offered 25K then we might all believe it. That would be $100k in todays dollars but even then that amount would be high.

But using an adjusted amount of $1.2 million....is just nonsense and totally unbelievable and makes him appear to be looking for attention....which he clearly has done before. He doesn't have or deserve credibility.
Louisville paid Bowen $200k and he was a top 35 recruit. Rex was a top 5 recruit and was from Kentucky.
 
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Says the guy who probably has never made half that in his life.... I find it totally believable that boosters in the 80’s would have offered him that amount.
Then you are an absolute idiot. It’s one thing to say yeah he was probably offered money. But to actually believe that it was 500K in the 1980s is absurd. The top NBA players were making in the 500k range but year some high school guy got offered the same.
 

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Then you are an absolute idiot. It’s one thing to say yeah he was probably offered money. But to actually believe that it was 500K in the 1980s is absurd. The top NBA players were making in the 500k range but year some high school guy got offered the same.
Not only were the top guys only getting 500K but they had to pay taxes on that so they only netted around $280K.

Chapman was not going to pay taxes on his “$500K”. He is so full of crap and the biggest attention ***** there is.
 

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Says the guy who probably has never made half that in his life.... I find it totally believable that boosters in the 80’s would have offered him that amount.
Especially if it was to keep him from going to UofL. It would have been mayhem and a huge stain on UK to not land Rex at that time. Would be worth 500k to not look like idiots and to not have to play him.
 

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Not do

Bill Walton is crazier than Rex. He is totally being hyperbolic with that comment. No way he was being serious. Its well known that 60s 70s UCLA under Wooden were being paid. But no way they received more than a few thousand bucks back then. NCAA basketball was not that big.
Gotta think though.. The average salary in the 70s was $35,000 in the NBA.. So I believe him when he said it..
 

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Says the guy who probably has never made half that in his life.... I find it totally believable that boosters in the 80’s would have offered him that amount.
Made that over the last few years chief.

While we all don’t have 10 degree’s, 8 jobs, 6 wives, and 4 dicks like you we’re not all deadbeats here.

Also never doubted he was offered that kind of money so I have no idea what your point is.
 

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The hate is purely political. Period

Can you explain how him starting the Cal to the Lakers rumor during the Final 4 a few years ago is political?? Most believe it hurt the team when he did that crap.

Your defense of him is purely political. You blindly state "it's just political" without looking at facts. I would assume your political ideals line up with his.

People don't like his politics, some do, it's their right. But what he did with that lie, hurt our team and chance for a title. That is why people dislike him and if you had been around for the last 5 years, that should be obvious.

But don't let the above fact get in the way of you trying to make it political....
 

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Rex needs help.