Would mean 11 teams in the conference again. Would make sense then to get a 12th school, if not 3 more. CU might be willing to return, not sure about A&M and Missouri where the SEC has the power and the money. What about trying to pry away Arizona and Arizona St? The Pac-10 is the worst conference to be in going forward and those are prime recruiting areas.
Returning to the Big 12
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Everyone on the outside has their jaw on the floor if NU doesn’t bolt tomorrow to the big 12. Not sure if you guys need a clearer message after all of this.
I cannot tell you how much I love the "He gets it" card...which means two people agree on something and everyone else is wrong.
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To be fair most "employees" will praise their bosses to their face and the company. Right up to the point they give their notice. Just because they came out saying they were proud members, doesn't mean they aren't or won't look at other options.
Nope, our leadership cares more about $$ than student athletes. Nebraska is going nowhere.
I think it’s more likely that they would have their jaw on the floor if we did bolt.
Well you can dream about it if you want BUT it just ain't even close to reality. Not happening.
Actually no one has their jaws on the floor if we don't leave. Let me ask you this, would you be willing to change jobs and take a 25% pay cut? That's what you are asking us to do.
I do agree I don't think we leave. However I could see justification for doing so. Using your job reference. It would be like you working your butt off putting in your max effort to get better and contribute to the company. . None of your co workers respect you. They laugh and degrade you every chance they get. They tell you every day theydon't want you in the company, that you are worthless and you should leave. The bosses give you the most work, yet you get paid exactly the same. Day after day you take the abuse until finally you say F it. I have to just get out of here I don't care about the money any more.
Yes I know it isn't exactly the same and there is much more involved in moving conferences vs moving jobs. We have never been a great fit in for the BIG10. Not academically, not politically, not football wise. Really not at all. Money was the ONLY reason we joined. Land grab was the only reason the BIG10 wanted us. I don't see us fitting in every. We just have a different mindset here at Nebraska than the rest of the BIG10. What we have seen the last few days proves this even more so.
Do you really think that is the every day experience for the academic side of the university?
Its not.
Because some random rube from NW or MSU pops on here and offends our sensibilities about not being a super highly rated university doesn't mean our profs are treated like that.
It would be more than a 25% cut...NU is not walking away from the CIC (think it was renamed) money and research cooperative
That is the REAL money for the university and dwarfs the conference/BTN money
It'll take a minute for folks to realize we burned the boats. No matter how much they wanna a cry about some holding calls or scheduling hazing. It's small potatoes.
No I wasn't speaking of the university or academics side of it. More so the football side of it. Yes to your point there is much more to being in a conference than football.
so sad. I want to see NU compete at the highest level again for the old big 8/12 days. It will never happen again with the snowflakes. Sorry. Bolt to the XII or be stuck at 7-5 up north in misery.
NU has a shot for 10-12 win seasons again if locking back up the XII.
For me, there are reasons beyond money for making the move. NU benefits from playing games in Texas where the recruiting is better. How many recruits do we pull from Ohio or Pennsylvania? Travel time is shorter in the Big 12 and there is the rivalry with OU which has no match for NU in the Big 10 (I would insist on being put in the same division as OU). NU is just the odd-ball and hasn't benefitted since they joined.
The key is not just to go back but to lure in 3 more desirable universities to the Big 12 (Arizona schools?). Colorado will probably come back (they are the poorest sister of the poor sister conference). With the right additional schools it could be a great conference to rival the SEC.
The key is not just to go back but to lure in 3 more desirable universities to the Big 12 (Arizona schools?). Colorado will probably come back (they are the poorest sister of the poor sister conference). With the right additional schools it could be a great conference to rival the SEC.
I am going to start making retirement plans on when I win the lottery. Same chance as Nebraska moving back to the Big 12
I said at the time NU went to the BIG and I will say it again. NU football in the BIG simply does not carry the weight of Oh St, Mich, and PSU. I predicted NU would not do well in the BIG for a awhile and it was due to recruiting footprint.
You joined a league in which for a 100 years the new states your games were going to be televised each week have had generations of families watching and dreaming for playing at the traditional power BIG schools or their local BIG school that families had massive alumni ties with. You had BIG schools recruiting all of these same HS’s forever, with all those ties.
NU at one time enjoyed the same respect the BIG schools enjoy in the Big 12 region. It takes a long time of branding and kids growing up seeing that over 2 generations to create a mindset that just because of who you are you have instant recruiting credibility, superior brand recognition, and respect. I was not shocked with how far NU has fallen. It is so hard to have the type of recruiting cache NU had in the Big 12 that was built over decades of success that everyone in the Big 12 region witnessed over several generations. I predicted it might take 40 years for NU to create that in the BIG, and somehow would have to find success being behind the 8 ball so to speak in the BIG.
As for the Big 12, the OSU fans looks to me are 50/50 on NU coming back, NU not near the program it was nationally and as a low population state (problem for almost all Big 12 schools), can it really bring enough tv eyeballs to create incremental revenue payouts per team?
Big 12 has a new commissioner and he is a big improvement, the payouts per school is solid.
No one is desperate to see NU come back. Many are indifferent, and as expected some do not want NU back because they did not get their way in the BIG and left because they did not get their way in the Big 12.
For me it is about economics, you have to remember when the Big 12 lost teams the TV contracts did not decrease and each team received more money and the Big 12 TV contracts are competitive. So, I would want NU back only if the TV payout per team increases and NU should have to take a smaller share for 2 years or so just like the new teams that entered the Big 12 had to do, to guarantee the existing members financially benefited.
Always pull for you guys to do well, but you created a huge recruiting uphill battle when you left.
You joined a league in which for a 100 years the new states your games were going to be televised each week have had generations of families watching and dreaming for playing at the traditional power BIG schools or their local BIG school that families had massive alumni ties with. You had BIG schools recruiting all of these same HS’s forever, with all those ties.
NU at one time enjoyed the same respect the BIG schools enjoy in the Big 12 region. It takes a long time of branding and kids growing up seeing that over 2 generations to create a mindset that just because of who you are you have instant recruiting credibility, superior brand recognition, and respect. I was not shocked with how far NU has fallen. It is so hard to have the type of recruiting cache NU had in the Big 12 that was built over decades of success that everyone in the Big 12 region witnessed over several generations. I predicted it might take 40 years for NU to create that in the BIG, and somehow would have to find success being behind the 8 ball so to speak in the BIG.
As for the Big 12, the OSU fans looks to me are 50/50 on NU coming back, NU not near the program it was nationally and as a low population state (problem for almost all Big 12 schools), can it really bring enough tv eyeballs to create incremental revenue payouts per team?
Big 12 has a new commissioner and he is a big improvement, the payouts per school is solid.
No one is desperate to see NU come back. Many are indifferent, and as expected some do not want NU back because they did not get their way in the BIG and left because they did not get their way in the Big 12.
For me it is about economics, you have to remember when the Big 12 lost teams the TV contracts did not decrease and each team received more money and the Big 12 TV contracts are competitive. So, I would want NU back only if the TV payout per team increases and NU should have to take a smaller share for 2 years or so just like the new teams that entered the Big 12 had to do, to guarantee the existing members financially benefited.
Always pull for you guys to do well, but you created a huge recruiting uphill battle when you left.
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Not my fault you allowed anger to lead to a poor decision. Captain obvious stuff, your arrogance made you think NU could walk in anywhere and recruit on equal footing against programs with a 100 year head start in your new conference footprint. But hey, you exchanged football success for a bigger paycheck and more “control” in your conference.
Maybe I need to hope you guys lose, I guess losing eliminated all the Husker fan “class”. Not surprised.
Don't blame me, I didn't make the decision, take it up with Osborne.
Did I do that right Nebraska_reality?
Ha ha ha you come to our board, tell us how you told some random someone back when we went to the Big Ten that it was going to be a mistake. I am not finding that post in your set of 4 posts. So forgive me if I don't give a **** what you might, could have, maybe told someone a decade ago.
You should be grateful some fans outside of the BIG actually know about NU’s history or even think about a program that has done nothing nationally since leaving the Big 12. Any BIG fans from other schools over here? Could they name your studs off your 1971 NC team without looking it up? They most likely could give 2 ***** about NU. I read that SI article and they even know you screwed your recruiting base, how else do you fall to 9th best team? I am out of here, hope you get to watch plenty of a Big 12 football this fall.
I too "love" the idea of returning to the Big8......but to return to Dan Beebe/Texas.......ughhh.....there's got to be a better way.
With the recent turn of events, I can say without reservation - I hate us being in the B1G.
Hated the move personally and agree with that part...but i'll disagree on why we left the Big 12....
Recruiting isn’t Nebraska’s problem. They are still out recruiting their division just like in the Big 12 North. What Nebraska has lacked is identity and leadership. We hope Frost is the answer.
I like Ok State fans. Usually real down to earth, good folks.... I guess you’re the exception.
Class is not coming on another team's message board, and then ridiculing every move our college made 10 yrs ago when we had a coach named Bo Pelini, like some kind of know-it-all. And I don't condone our people running their mouths on others' boards either.