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Wow, I wish i knew that earlier!!! had I known this I never would have brought Chinander and his attacking defense!!!

The only retarded one here is you... I assumed you would have come back this morning off your bender singing a different tune. There is help for what you have, but you’ve gotta own it and want to get better.

IBM, Apple and Amazon are my companies, I just let the CEOs run them.

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
 
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So less than 48 hours ago, he couldn't go, but yet now they have him out there trying to practice.. looks to me like the coaching staff went oh boy, we better try to get him ready..

OR it's just Frost trying to play mind games.. like suiting up Martinez for the mighty Troy game. :rolleyes:

I guess he could miraculously be feeling better, but the reports today are he isn't doing much running, just handing off and throwing.

So I absolutely believe what I posted.
Do you know anything about football? When you write stuff like this it sure doesn’t seem like it.
 

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Well it was a ruse.. Bunch knew he was starting before Saturday, and the neck and neck QB battle in fall camp was a ruse too.. so yeah, I am starting to not trust what he is saying.. that's a bad thing actually.. so instead of trying to fake out an opponent, he's starting to hurt his own credibility.

Maybe it has nothing to do with being a ruse. Maybe it’s more for his own players than anyone else. Maybe it’s about leadership and accountability, which is something Frost has talked about and made priority since day one. Maybe Frost understands that the psychological approach to gameday is enhanced when a player dresses out as opposed to coming out in shorts, tee shirt and flip flops. Maybe he’s sending a message to his true freshman QB and the rest of the team that just because you won’t play doesn’t mean you get a day off. Maybe he expects players to engage and learn while they are standing on the sidelines and not just jack around because they are not playing. Maybe there are a thousand different reasons that you haven’t thought to suit up your QB on gameday and have him practice two days later. Maybe you should take the advice of other posters and stop acting like a baby like you’re owed something by this staff.
 

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Maybe it has nothing to do with being a ruse. Maybe it’s more for his own players than anyone else. Maybe it’s about leadership and accountability, which is something Frost has talked about and made priority since day one. Maybe Frost understands that the psychological approach to gameday is enhanced when a player dresses out as opposed to coming out in shorts, tee shirt and flip flops. Maybe he’s sending a message to his true freshman QB and the rest of the team that just because you won’t play doesn’t mean you get a day off. Maybe he expects players to engage and learn while they are standing on the sidelines and not just jack around because they are not playing. Maybe there are a thousand different reasons that you haven’t thought to suit up your QB on gameday and have him practice two days later. Maybe you should take the advice of other posters and stop acting like a baby like you’re owed something by this staff.
Most of that was pretty good. Better than a lot of what others posted here.

I'm just calling it like how I see it. I'm certainly not crying about it, just trying to shed some light on what I see. It's not my fault everyone else is freaking out because they bought into the hype and are now faced with reality.
 

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How much do they need to specifically prepare for Bunch? If I’m Michigan, I’m preparing the team all week for a 100% AM.

If Bunch plays, everything is easier. If I’m the UMDC, I would have an idea of how to torment Bunch if he’s the guy. But that shouldn’t take a lot of time to develop.

It’s also possible that AM looks a lot like Bunch if he’s not 100%.

I doubt we'll be trotting out the veer or wishbone anytime soon, so I would guess if they prepare for either, they are also preparing for the other.
 

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Most of that was pretty good. Better than a lot of what others posted here.

I'm just calling it like how I see it. I'm certainly not crying about it, just trying to shed some light on what I see. It's not my fault everyone else is freaking out because they bought into the hype and are now faced with reality.
Lol! In other words, not your fault we’re wrong and you’re right!

Just calling it how I see it.
 

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I injured my MCL my freshman year of football (fun fact, Phillip Dillard was actually a senior on the same team), came back 2 weeks later at the coach’s urging and injured it again. Still hurts from time to time, and my left quad is noticeably smaller than my right one, even.

Point is, these knee injuries are nothing to play around with, until fully ready.
 
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Most of that was pretty good. Better than a lot of what others posted here.

I'm just calling it like how I see it. I'm certainly not crying about it, just trying to shed some light on what I see. It's not my fault everyone else is freaking out because they bought into the hype and are now faced with reality.
Except you aren't just calling it as you see it. You seem to have an anti-Frost axe to grind and an agenda. For example... you have zero evidence that Frost knew all along he was going to name AM the starter and just strung Gebbia along. Zero evidence. Nada. Yet you assert it as if it is an established fact. That is hardly "calling it as you see it". That is called making **** up to fit an agenda.
 

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Except you aren't just calling it as you see it. You seem to have an anti-Frost axe to grind and an agenda. For example... you have zero evidence that Frost knew all along he was going to name AM the starter but just strung Gebbia along. Zero evidence. Nada. Yet you assert it as if it is an established fact. That is hardly "calling it as you see it". That is called making **** up to fit an agenda.
Just like Tuco thinks someone is in Frosts ear, when there is no evidence?

Besides, there is evidence that I was right in my hunch.. I bet Gebbia knew he was behind, and probably would have been ok if they had not strung him along.. it was obvious they were doing that, and he must have felt he was being played, and so he came up with a plan of his own.

There is evidence of others on the team who said they didn't understand all of Frost's neck and neck talk because they were not close in fall camp.

I get you don't like my message, but when I brought it up, you all accused me of calling Frost a liar.. you guys freaked out. Not me.
 
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"I bet Gebbia knew" and "He must have felt" is not evidence. Just sayin'
Gebbia made comments twice this summer that alluded to it

I even pointed it out to you guys.

And then everyone is questioning the offensive line, and there was a guy on this board that said guys on the line that were loyal to TG and were upset about how that was handled too. But, everyone wants to believe SF is some sort of saint.
 
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Just like Tuco thinks someone is in Frosts ear, when there is no evidence?

Besides, there is evidence that I was right in my hunch.. I bet Gebbia knew he was behind, and probably would have been ok if they had not strung him along.. it was obvious they were doing that, and he must have felt he was being played, and so he came up with a plan of his own.

There is evidence of others on the team who said they didn't understand all of Frost's neck and neck talk because they were not close in fall camp.

I get you don't like my message, but when I brought it up, you all accused me of calling Frost a liar.. you guys freaked out. Not me.
Still zero evidence. Hunches and guesses. Swing and a miss. Try again. You are just digging a deeper hole. You have just admitted you have zero evidence. You have just admitted it is just a hunch. So instead of giving Frost the benefit of the doubt, you just assume he was mistreating Gebbia. That smacks of an agenda. You say it is obvious that Frost was doing this. Ummm... no it isn't.
 
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Gebbia made comments twice this summer that alluded to it

I even pointed it out to you guys.

And then everyone is questioning the offensive line, and there was a guy on this board that said guys on the line that were loyal to TG and were upset about how that was handled too. But, everyone wants to believe SF is some sort of saint.
Nobody thinks he is a saint. We just don't assume he is a douche bag as you seem to.
 
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Gebbia made comments twice this summer that alluded to it

I even pointed it out to you guys.

And then everyone is questioning the offensive line, and there was a guy on this board that said guys on the line that were loyal to TG and were upset about how that was handled too. But, everyone wants to believe SF is some sort of saint.
And what are those comments but Gebbia? And where is your evidence that some lineman were pissed? You think that is why the line is struggling? Lol
 

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Still zero evidence. Hunches and guesses. Swing and a miss. Try again. You are just digging a deeper hole. You have just admitted you have zero evidence. You have just admitted it is just a hunch. So instead of giving Frost the benefit of the doubt, you just assume he was mistreating Gebbia. That smacks of an agenda. You say it is obvious that Frost was doing this. Ummm... no it isn't.
What is my agenda? To get them to change the defense? Okay, yeah I think that would work and they would actually win some games. But outside of that, I don't know what my agenda is?

You just don't like the message.
 

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Or it could be that they are bringing him along slowly. He was in a uniform on Saturday, so either he is getting closer or it was all a ruse.

The reality is, someone may not be ready yet, but 48 hours later are more ready than 2 days before... Maybe even ready enough to practice. Funny how that works.
They had an interview from Coach Frost on sports nightly last night. It must have been press conference after yesterday practice. He said they would make a decision later but they were giigo to do what was in the best interest of Martinez and his long term health...... basically.
So yes I would agree with they're bringing along slowly. He might start but they don't want to further injury his knee IF not 100%.
 

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Most of that was pretty good. Better than a lot of what others posted here.

I'm just calling it like how I see it. I'm certainly not crying about it, just trying to shed some light on what I see. It's not my fault everyone else is freaking out because they bought into the hype and are now faced with reality.

I find it funny that you’re now talking about reality. The reality is that you’re “calling it as you see is” is based purely on conjecture. While we’re all expressing opinions and none of us have any hard facts, so it’s all conjecture; your conjecture is not at all based on anything logical or even remotely factual.

You have no idea what Martinez status was on Saturday. You have no idea what his status was yesterday. You don’t even have a clue as to what extent he even practiced yesterday. Did he just go through some throwing reps, maybe a couple of reads at half speed with zero contact or did he go 100%? Or did he just go with the 2’s so that Bunch could get reps with the 1’s. You have no idea, it’s based on what you THINK not what you SEE.

Case in point your observation that the QB battle was neck and neck during camp. Frost very specifically said two to three weeks before the Akron game that Gebbia and Martinez had separated themselves from everyone else. Two weeks before Akron Bunch was not in the mix to start. It was Gebbia and Martinez. Frost specifically said that so I don’t what about that is a ruse.

So the reality is that any damage Frost has done to his credibility in your eyes is entirely based on crap that you made up in your head.
 
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What is my agenda? To get them to change the defense? Okay, yeah I think that would work and they would actually win some games. But outside of that, I don't know what my agenda is?

You just don't like the message.
Not true. I couldn't care less if your opinion of Frost's performance is more negative than mine.
But you make sweeping allegations with zero evidence, call it all a fact, and then accuse anyone who disagrees with you with just not liking your message. You are the Oliver Stone of the message board. It's not that I don't like your message. I just think your posts are silly.
 

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What is my agenda? To get them to change the defense? Okay, yeah I think that would work and they would actually win some games. But outside of that, I don't know what my agenda is?

You just don't like the message.
Here’s the problem with your message. It’s ONE VOICE.

No one is jumping in to defend you because NO ONE believes this to be true, and certainly NO ONE is going to proclaim it as fact like you have.

If others felt the way that you do, where are they? Why aren’t they telling you to ‘preach it?’ Why don’t you have likes on any of these posts.

No one likes your message because it isn’t based in facts... just conjecture, and no one seems to agree with it.

But keep telling the rest of this board we all are freaking out over the gospel according to Nikki.

That’ll get you some likes.
 
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Ask @HuskerDana he is the guy that said there were guys loyal to TG that were upset at how that all was handled.

I don't know if that influenced line play last Sat.
No. It was said guys were upset that Martinez got the job over Gebbia...not how it was handled. So, according to posters, we have some players upset that AMart got the job over Gebbia when Gebbia was obviously better. Now according to other posters, some guys on the team were upset because Gebbia got strung along when the competition wasn't close. Which is it?

This is why the team and the fans don't get a vote.
 
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Ask @HuskerDana he is the guy that said there were guys loyal to TG that were upset at how that all was handled.

I don't know if that influenced line play last Sat.
HuskerDana said there were some guys who thought Gebbia was better. Which suggests the QB competition was a close one and not a ruse as you proclaim as fact.

How does that support your point of view here again?
 

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You have no idea what Martinez status was on Saturday.
Sure I do. Andrew Bunch said he was told he would start late last week. It's right there in his interview.

You have no idea what his status was yesterday. You don’t even have a clue as to what extent he even practiced yesterday. Did he just go through some throwing reps, maybe a couple of reads at half speed with zero contact or did he go 100%? Or did he just go with the 2’s so that Bunch could get reps with the 1’s. You have no idea, it’s based on what you THINK not what you SEE.

Go watch Tanner Farmers Interview

Case in point your observation that the QB battle was neck and neck during camp. Frost very specifically said two to three weeks before the Akron game that Gebbia and Martinez had separated themselves from everyone else. Two weeks before Akron Bunch was not in the mix to start. It was Gebbia and Martinez. Frost specifically said that so I don’t what about that is a ruse.
Frost was asked about it every day, and he kept putting off a decision, until he thought he was safe from a transfer. Then woah, the school with a quarters system all of a sudden was in the mix. Frost got outplayed.
So the reality is that any damage Frost has done to his credibility in your eyes is entirely based on crap that you made up in your head.
Okay.. if you say so.
 

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No. It was said guys were upset that Martinez got the job over Gebbia.
. I don't recall that, and never said that.
So, according to posters, we have some players upset that AMart got the job over Gebbia when Gebbia was obviously better. Now according to other posters, some guys on the team were upset because Gebbia got strung along when the competition wasn't close. Which is it?

This is why the team and the fans don't get a vote.
I heard it was just the latter
 

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I remember the one time key guys on my team confronted the coach on play calling after a loss. Chief rival team, they keyed on our IBack and we lost the game when we shouldn't have. I ran a few counter plays at FB and they worked and the seniors told the coach he should run me more. The coach told us thanks for the input and he would call the offense as he saw fit. He didn't give me more carries than I had been getting previously, we won the rest of our games and won the conference championship.
Frost is the coach, win or lose. The guys that were loyal to TG should realize he scampered off to Corvallis and NU wins with the QBs that are now on its roster. If butthurt influenced how some kids blocked for Bunch, then maybe this should happen.
 

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. I don't recall that, and never said that.
I heard it was just the latter
I know you never said that because that wasn’t your narrative. But that is exactly what was stated on this board. Those who were upset were upset because they though Gebbia outperformed Martinez. Nothing on this board that I read where players felt Frost strung Gebbia along.

Until you started saying it.
 
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Sure I do. Andrew Bunch said he was told he would start late last week. It's right there in his interview.



Go watch Tanner Farmers Interview


Frost was asked about it every day, and he kept putting off a decision, until he thought he was safe from a transfer. Then woah, the school with a quarters system all of a sudden was in the mix. Frost got outplayed.

Okay.. if you say so.
Frost was asked every day about the QB situation because it really was a competition. Frost did not "keep putting off a decision" just to play Gebbia as you claim. Maybe he put off the decision because it really was that close. You have zero evidence that the latter is false and that your view is true. Zero.

What people are finding annoying about your posts is that you are unnecessarily stirring the pot of controversy. Unnecessarily stirring up **** when there is no evidence to support it. Just your hunches. At a time when the fan base should be coming together after a rough start, you decide that it is time to go all Oliver Stone on here with your unsubstantiated theories.

And as for Frost being coy about the injury to AM... who cares? Coaches do that **** all the time. So what is your point?
 
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I remember the one time key guys on my team confronted the coach on play calling after a loss. Chief rival team, they keyed on our IBack and we lost the game when we shouldn't have. I ran a few counter plays at FB and they worked and the seniors told the coach he should run me more. The coach told us thanks for the input and he would call the offense as he saw fit. He didn't give me more carries than I had been getting previously, we won the rest of our games and won the conference championship.
Frost is the coach, win or lose. The guys that were loyal to TG should realize he scampered off to Corvallis and NU wins with the QBs that are now on its roster. If butthurt influenced how some kids blocked for Bunch, then maybe this should happen.

I doubt the issues with our line had anything to do with Gebbia. Our line has sucked for several years. Were they upset last year that Lee started over Gebbia? lol
 
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. I don't recall that, and never said that.
I heard it was just the latter
You were referring to HuskerDana! Here is what was said very succinctly of what the players thought about AMart winning the competition:

If not close then why are there other offensive starters that do not like this decision?
Not just offensive....

You are directly contradicting the main argument of a few weeks ago that kidofSN and HuskerDana were leading the charge on.
 

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Frost was asked every day about the QB situation because it really was a competition. Frost did not "keep putting off a decision" just to play Gebbia as you claim. Maybe he put off the decision because it really was that close. You have zero evidence that the latter is false and that your view is true. Zero.

What people are finding annoying about your posts is that you are unnecessarily stirring the pot of controversy. Unnecessarily stirring up **** when there is no evidence to support it. Just your hunches. At a time when the fan base should be coming together after a rough start, you decide that it is time to go all Oliver Stone on here with your unsubstantiated theories.

And as for Frost being coy about the injury to AM... who cares? Coaches do that **** all the time. So what is your point?
well this is a message board to talk about football right?
sorry you don't like my posts.
The part about being coy on the injury to AM bothered me because he felt he had to hide the starting quarterback from Troy? So yeah, I question that openly. Sorry you're still in the honeymoon phase.. I've alread hit the Defrost setting :)