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Could be meh. But it's really early and if we have a successful season and get some national attention it could change things. A good portion of these "committed" guys end up elsewhere by signing day. Including holding on to the ones we currently have.
 
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Harry Caray

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Yeah it seems like at other programs that have rebuilt with a new coach, usually the 3rd class is when recruiting really took off - but this will likely end up being Frost's lowest-rated class here so far.

On the other hand, having 3 losing seasons in the last 4 years hasn't helped much. Not many other programs that have had that many recent losing seasons are recruiting well either.
 
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Very good point. If we start blasting through teams this year, I would imagine a much stronger finish than anticipated and a VERY strong 2021 class.
 
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Dean Pope

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DudznSudz said:
https://247sports.com/college/nebra...close-with-these-remaining-targets-134135325/

Is it me, or is this class going to wind up being kind of "meh?"

Getting Corcoran and Betts are huge gets, and we need a ****-load of linebackers, but this "remaining targets" list feels like a bit of a wet fart.

Or am I wrong? /discuss
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I'm usually an optimist with all things associated with the new staff, but this year's class is not looking great right now. We've won some key battles and lost some. At the moment, that result hasn't gotten us very far up the rankings. The Huskers have five stud commits right now including a great QB prospect. But it's just that those other three will never help us in the ratings. The setbacks that really have put a drag on the momentum of this class is the loss of Watts to Notre Dame and the news that of two NU leans (Morrison and Bryant-Strother) to take more visits and delay their decision. Morrison is said to be wanting to wait until February, which tells me that he isn't satisfied with his current list of offers. NU may need to come up with another RB option.

The positive in all of this is that the staff has shown a great ability to close quickly in December and January. Having more open spots could be a benefit as new talent becomes available through decommits and transfers as well as late bloomers. It could work out quite nicely. However, the more time the staff puts in to fill this class, it will definitely hamper efforts to get a fast start to what looks like a promising 2021 class.
 
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Our facilities are not even the best of the West, we are 8-16 over the past two seasons, UNL is not a great school academically (which matters to some recruits), and high school football in Omaha no longer produces running backs as of old. Those are the negatives.

On the positive side, we have a great coaching staff who know how to recruit. We have a great fan base and tradition. Lincoln is whitebread boring, but is a bigger and nicer city than most recruits expect.

So things are kind of a wash and a bit in limbo. Winning changes everything. We really, really need to have a rock solid season with wins over teams like Wisconsin, Iowa, Northwestern and Minnesota. I also think beating CU is critical this year. I think we will. But we need to go into the OSU game at 4-0.

I agree our recruiting is worrisome so far. But it is a marathon and not a sprint. Win and they will come. Personally, I think we need to do better than 8-4. I will be disappointed if we do worse than 10-2. All of the pundits are high on us right now. The high expectations are because of last year’s finish and Frost’s second year at UCF. But if we go 8-4 the gild will be off of the Frost lily, at least with regard to fast turnarounds like UCF.

I know our program was in a shambles after Riley. I know Frost is building a program for the long haul. I am patient in that regard. But I think also that Frost damn well understands how important it is to win THIS year. He has said as much and you can just tell he has a sense of urgency and a fire in his belly. He knows he has a really special QB.

We need to win. And pull off some statement game upsets.
GBR
 
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huskerfan1414

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I really dont think johnson, manning, and bratton are meh. Theyre really really good.
Having said that, we ant getting Bratton so he shouldn't be on there.
Strother has upside but he should be N. I thought we would close on him long ago.

If we can get Johnson and manning from that list I’ll be pretty damn happy. (Also assuming strother N).
 
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DudznSudz said:
https://247sports.com/college/nebra...close-with-these-remaining-targets-134135325/

Is it me, or is this class going to wind up being kind of "meh?"

Getting Corcoran and Betts are huge gets, and we need a ****-load of linebackers, but this "remaining targets" list feels like a bit of a wet fart.

Or am I wrong? /discuss
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I know many are looking at 8 recruits as not a big deal. It is not what Frost or any coach wants at this point. Outside of Bratton and Johnson You are right the remaining "top" targets are good, but not top level by any means. Maybe Iowa level. That is the problem in taking so long to get a class put together. At this point in the year there are few 4 and 5 star guys left to go after. When looking at our offer list, most of the guys have already signed with another teams or they have zero interest in Nebraska. I know some think we can still get a top 25 class, with the guys left out there. I just don't see how that is possible. The well of talent is drying up quick.
 
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huskerssalts

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huskerfan1414 said:
I really dont think johnson, manning, and bratton are meh. Theyre really really good.
Having said that, we ant getting Bratton so he shouldn't be on there.
Strother has upside but he should be N. I thought we would close on him long ago.

If we can get Johnson and manning from that list I’ll be pretty damn happy. (Also assuming strother N).
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Bratton is looking at the Huskers more then your realize. Him and Logan Smothers are great friends, go to the same high school and play on the same team and I think Bratton sees a great opportunity of playing time early on with our Huskers. Not ever recruit has to go to Bama. Smothers obviously has Bratton looking at the Huskers hard that he’s even taking an official here. We are very much in it with Bratton having Smothers in his ear everyday.
 
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Dont even need to pull upsets. Win the games we should win and we're 10 and 2 at the least.
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You and I might agree that beating Wisky and Iowa are not upsets. But Wisky has absolutely owned us since we joined and Iowa has beaten us four years running. Depending on how the season plays out we could be underdogs on both those games.

And hopefully Martinez stays healthy. That is HUGE. If he goes down early in the season and we are forced to use Vedral we will not be close to 10-2 or 9-3. I know some on here are high on Vedral. I’m not. And Luke ain’t ready for prime time yet.
 
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huskerfan1414

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Bratton is looking at the Huskers more then your realize. Him and Logan Smothers are great friends, go to the same high school and play on the same team and I think Bratton sees a great opportunity of playing time early on with our Huskers. Not ever recruit has to go to Bama. Smothers obviously has Bratton looking at the Huskers hard that he’s even taking an official here. We are very much in it with Bratton having Smothers in his ear everyday.
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I wish you were right.
Our best bet is Bama cutting him loose.
Otherwise no.
 
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huskerssalts

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Unless another Dline or LB purposely tries to break Martinez leg like last year, Martinez won’t go down hurt. He has put on some serious mass and he’s purposely bulking up to take the BIG punishment. Dudes going to play 13 games this year and put up PlayStation numbers...GBR ;)
 
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huskerssalts

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Pennsyhusker said:
I agree. We have a shot. But Bama is hard to resist.
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Now that I can agree with. The biggest thing is the Huskers putting up a 8-4 to 10-2 season. We do that and we will pull some guys like Bratton, flip back players like Malik Reed (which I been hearing is still looking at us hard) and win some of those close call players. We have to have a good season this year...HAVE TO. GBR
 
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I agree. We have a shot. But Bama is hard to resist.
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I don't get the Bama draw.... I mean I get it, but they are loaded with tons of talent at every position. Most of these kids goal is to play and get to the NFL. Odds are he will go the Alabama sit for 2 or 3 year and maybe play a year or 2 or not at all. Players like him come here and odds say they will probably play right away or worst case RS 1 year. He has a much better shot at playing time and to get noticed here.
I did notice he is from Alabama, so if he grew up as an Alabama fan, he is going to be tough if not impossible to draw away.
 
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I don't get the Bama draw.... I mean I get it, but they are loaded with tons of talent at every position. Most of these kids goal is to play and get to the NFL. Odds are he will go the Alabama sit for 2 or 3 year and maybe play a year or 2 or not at all. Players like him come here and odds say they will probably play right away or worst case RS 1 year. He has a much better shot at playing time and to get noticed here.
I did notice he is from Alabama, so if he grew up as an Alabama fan, he is going to be tough if not impossible to draw away.
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You realize how silly you sound right? You defend players that choose to walk on at Nebraska rather than go somewhere else for a reduced rate then for some reason question why a player in the state of Alabama would choose Alabama over Nebraska. In that argument you say things like you have to sit for 2 or 3 years at Alabama before you play. Failing to realize that even playing for 1 or 2 years at Alabama gets you drafted in many cases. But a player that is from Nebraska should embrace the opportunity to play at Nebraska, even if it means sitting 2-3 years before getting an opportunity to play. Gosh if the dude from rural Nebraska goes to South Dakota St probably plays right away or at worst RS 1 year. He has a much better shot at playing there and to get noticed there........

strange huh?
 
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huskerssalts

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Tuco Salamanca said:
You realize how silly you sound right? You defend players that choose to walk on at Nebraska rather than go somewhere else for a reduced rate then for some reason question why a player in the state of Alabama would choose Alabama over Nebraska. In that argument you say things like you have to sit for 2 or 3 years at Alabama before you play. Failing to realize that even playing for 1 or 2 years at Alabama gets you drafted in many cases. But a player that is from Nebraska should embrace the opportunity to play at Nebraska, even if it means sitting 2-3 years before getting an opportunity to play. Gosh if the dude from rural Nebraska goes to South Dakota St probably plays right away or at worst RS 1 year. He has a much better shot at playing there and to get noticed there........

strange huh?
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And the same goes for Nebraska. Don’t get it wrong, you can play on the worst D1 team in college football and still go Pro. You absolutely do NOT have to go to Alabama to go pro or have a legit chance. Dude doesn’t sound stupid at all. A lot of these guys want to play and play early. And there are SOME that don’t mind setting 2-3 years and playing 1-2 years. I fully get what he means and that’s why we some players like Noa Pola-Gates picking the Huskers and not Bama or Ty Robinson picking the Huskers instead of Bama or Wandale Robinson picking the Huskers over Bama and so on.
 
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A lot of stargazers here. I think some of these 3 star recruits we're targeting are better than a lot of 4 or 5 star recruits. Morrison or Scott at RB, I'd take either one of them over just about anybody in the country. They both look like they could be special players.

Manning at WR would be absolutely huge. Having a big bodied WR with that much talent would be devastating in Frost's offense, especially with Martinez at qb.

If we can land a few good linebacker targets, I think this class will shape up nicely. We will have filled most of our needs and then some.
 
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Omar Manning would absolutely be a huge pick up. Dude was a top 100 army all American WR out of high school and love his size and build. He’d definitely give us that true big body WR for several years.
 
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We got the 4 most important recruits we needed.

T, DT, WR, Pass Rusher

Avante Dickerson is a must get for 2021
 
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huskerssalts said:
Unless another Dline or LB purposely tries to break Martinez leg like last year, Martinez won’t go down hurt. He has put on some serious mass and he’s purposely bulking up to take the BIG punishment. Dudes going to play 13 games this year and put up PlayStation numbers...GBR ;)
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forget playstation, he is gonna put up PC numbers. :cool:
 
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This class will be decent, but I don't think it is the kind of class that will end up helping us compete for conference championships. Just not good enough to get us to the next level
 
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You and I might agree that beating Wisky and Iowa are not upsets. But Wisky has absolutely owned us since we joined and Iowa has beaten us four years running. Depending on how the season plays out we could be underdogs on both those games.

And hopefully Martinez stays healthy. That is HUGE. If he goes down early in the season and we are forced to use Vedral we will not be close to 10-2 or 9-3. I know some on here are high on Vedral. I’m not. And Luke ain’t ready for prime time yet.
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huskerssalts said:
And the same goes for Nebraska. Don’t get it wrong, you can play on the worst D1 team in college football and still go Pro. You absolutely do NOT have to go to Alabama to go pro or have a legit chance. Dude doesn’t sound stupid at all. A lot of these guys want to play and play early. And there are SOME that don’t mind setting 2-3 years and playing 1-2 years. I fully get what he means and that’s why we some players like Noa Pola-Gates picking the Huskers and not Bama or Ty Robinson picking the Huskers instead of Bama or Wandale Robinson picking the Huskers over Bama and so on.
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It isn't just about playing early or going pro. The point I was making is that he said, he doesn't see the allure to Alabama...well he does, but ......

My point was that you all defend players that have scholarship offers to someplace else but choose to walk on at Nebraska, and think it is great that they come to Nebraska to sit for 2, 3,4 or 5 years. Then in the same breath have no idea why a player will go to Alabama and sit for 2, 3, 4, or 5 years instead of coming to Nebraska or somewhere else where they may have the opportunity for early playing time.

Which is it? Is it dumb to go somewhere at sit for a few years, or not? Or is it only smart if you go to Nebraska and sit for a few years?
 
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Tuco Salamanca said:
It isn't just about playing early or going pro. The point I was making is that he said, he doesn't see the allure to Alabama...well he does, but ......

My point was that you all defend players that have scholarship offers to someplace else but choose to walk on at Nebraska, and think it is great that they come to Nebraska to sit for 2, 3,4 or 5 years. Then in the same breath have no idea why a player will go to Alabama and sit for 2, 3, 4, or 5 years instead of coming to Nebraska or somewhere else where they may have the opportunity for early playing time.

Which is it? Is it dumb to go somewhere at sit for a few years, or not? Or is it only smart if you go to Nebraska and sit for a few years?
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unless I was rich, I wouldn't want my kids walking on anywhere.
 
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Right now our average recruit is in the top 15-18 I believe for rivals and for the other well respected reciting sites with their point system. Do we have a ton of recruits, nope. But those still looking at UNL they are known will have chances to improve as they play their senior year and the team as they get into the 7-8-9 wins and beyond the potential guys will take another look. The better the defense is this fall, that will dictate the season and the level of reciting depth.
 
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Tuco Salamanca said:
It isn't just about playing early or going pro. The point I was making is that he said, he doesn't see the allure to Alabama...well he does, but ......

My point was that you all defend players that have scholarship offers to someplace else but choose to walk on at Nebraska, and think it is great that they come to Nebraska to sit for 2, 3,4 or 5 years. Then in the same breath have no idea why a player will go to Alabama and sit for 2, 3, 4, or 5 years instead of coming to Nebraska or somewhere else where they may have the opportunity for early playing time.

Which is it? Is it dumb to go somewhere at sit for a few years, or not? Or is it only smart if you go to Nebraska and sit for a few years?
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Wait, what is the deal with walking on? I actually mean this, not sarcastic either. I’m talking about Bratton the 4 star LB and maybe wanting to play 3-4 years over 1-2 years at Bama. He may maybe a Bama commit now but maybe the playing time part has a pull on him along with his bro Smothers going to the Huskers. Maybe you where responding the “Walk on” talk to another guy?
 
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I’m no expert but it seems we’re missing on defensive guys more than offensive guys. I think people know what they are getting offensively with Frost. Therefore as long as he is here we are always going to get high caliber offensive recruits especially at the skill positions.

Offense is sexy but defense wins championships. IMO, outside of 2009 and a handful of talented players here and there, the Blackshirts have been more of a legend than a reality these past 20 years. It is critical that the defense takes a huge step forward this season. If we can show out on defense maybe we’ll start hitting on some of these defensive guys that we’ve missed out on recently.
 
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The defense is always going to lag the offense in Scott's program. There's just not alot of ways to have a top ten D when you are expecting them to be on the field most of the game because you run a two or four minute offense.

That's not to say that the defense can't be good but they are unlikely to put up the kind of stats that will get them major props from pundits as one of the top defenses in the country.

The teams that general have the best defensive rankings generally pair with a ball control offense.
 
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Wait, what is the deal with walking on? I actually mean this, not sarcastic either. I’m talking about Bratton the 4 star LB and maybe wanting to play 3-4 years over 1-2 years at Bama. He may maybe a Bama commit now but maybe the playing time part has a pull on him along with his bro Smothers going to the Huskers. Maybe you where responding the “Walk on” talk to another guy?
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See, you make these comments like they are facts. Bama puts players in the NFL, we do not, fact. There is so much turnover in their roster just based on kids turning pro it provides opportunity.

Every kid wants to play. They don't go to schools thinking they are going to sit a few years.
 
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