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WhyNotaSooner

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Stars and letters are two different things. It's not really a good comparison IMO. I wish ESPN would use their star & team rankings from 2012 and compare it to day.
 
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WhyNotaSooner

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What's really amazing is the attrition depletion. 20-22 recruits for incoming class = about 4-6 staying the full four years of eligibility. Which basically means, OU best grab the highest ranked kids they can as about 75% of them disappear.
 
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JConXtsy_rivals

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Patriotgame said:
I guess this proves the point that how many stars a kid has is just a guess and doesn't necessarily translate to college success...

http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/109272/re-grading-the-big-12-classes-of-2012
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I would disagree based on that list. To me, it shows that perception is correct more often than not. The anomalies look like Texas and Texas Tech both of which went through coaching changes in that timeframe that had more to do with the disappointments rather than talent evaluation. Everyone else fell into place pretty much.
 
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LongTimeSooner

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Recruiting rankings are a total false economy sold to customers willing to buy speculation. Just like market advisers.

If your brokers knew what they were talking about, wouldn't they all be filthy rich and retired?

Instead you pay them and you subsidize their guesses. Same with any/all recruiting services.
 
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JConXtsy_rivals

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LongTimeSooner said:
Recruiting rankings are a total false economy sold to customers willing to buy speculation. Just like market advisers.

If your brokers knew what they were talking about, wouldn't they all be filthy rich and retired?

Instead you pay them and you subsidize their guesses. Same with any/all recruiting services.
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There's a big difference between being right 51% of the time and being right 49% of the time. It's not a game of right and wrong. It's a game of averages and it most certainly does work out that way.
 
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CTOkie

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LongTimeSooner said:
Recruiting rankings are a total false economy sold to customers willing to buy speculation. Just like market advisers.

If your brokers knew what they were talking about, wouldn't they all be filthy rich and retired?

Instead you pay them and you subsidize their guesses. Same with any/all recruiting services.
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Recruiting speculation is not confined to recruiting services and/or recruiting "gurus"....that speculation is also done by coaches....who also can misjudge talent about as often as any other source of evaluating high school talent.
 
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Soonersincefitty

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I do appreciate it that Bob and his staff seem to put as much consideration into character as they do talent.

That, maybe to our disadvantage at times.
 
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LongTimeSooner

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JConXtsy said:
There's a big difference between being right 51% of the time and being right 49% of the time. It's not a game of right and wrong. It's a game of averages and it most certainly does work out that way.
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The problem with your very correct statement is that not everyone understands this.

We declare coaches who miss out on arbitrarily ranked 5-star kids as incompetent. Or coaches who rely on their own judgement and go after a 3 star kid instead of a 4 star as idiots.
 
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Soonersincefitty

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LongTimeSooner said:
The problem with your very correct statement is that not everyone understands this.

We declare coaches who miss out on arbitrarily ranked 5-star kids as incompetent. Or coaches who rely on their own judgement and go after a 3 star kid instead of a 4 star as idiots.
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This has post of the day merit.
The coaches can't please some folks all the time, assuming it's possible...which it isn't.

That's a given.;)
 
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CTOkie

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Patriotgame_rivals

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I should have clarified when I posted this that I was not speaking about OU or any Big 12 school in particular...I just found it interesting how 2 and 3 star kids found success at schools while 4 and 5 star kids would fail at others...

Does make you wonder if their places had been switched, would the 4 and 5 star kids excelled?

Is it really the kids overachieving versus underachieving or is it the coaching/system...
 
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SoonerTulsan

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LongTimeSooner said:
The problem with your very correct statement is that not everyone understands this.

We declare coaches who miss out on arbitrarily ranked 5-star kids as incompetent. Or coaches who rely on their own judgement and go after a 3 star kid instead of a 4 star as idiots.
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WE??? You have a mouse in your pocket? ;) I find I have to trust the staff knows what they're doing. If I didn't, I'd get emotional and post things foolish things after a loss. As it is, I can post foolish things all the time and not be so emotional. ;)
 
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Soonersincefitty

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SoonerTulsan said:
WE??? You have a mouse in your pocket? ;) I find I have to trust the staff knows what they're doing. If I didn't, I'd get emotional and post things foolish things after a loss. As it is, I can post foolish things all the time and not be so emotional. ;)
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Yep, that's my patented style too.

I post foolish crap without reason or emotional foundation.
Got that going for me.:confused:
 
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SoonerTulsan

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Soonersincefitty said:
Yep, that's my patented style too.

I post foolish crap without reason or emotional foundation.
Got that going for me.:confused:
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It's good to be calm...and to be able to have fun, while those around you lose their heads, their rational thought, their posting privileges, their job as mod, their sanity, their sleep, their hair, self-respect...

:)
 
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Soonersincefitty

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SoonerTulsan said:
It's good to be calm...and to be able to have fun, while those around you lose their heads, their rational thought, their posting privileges, their job as mod, their sanity, their sleep, their hair, self-respect...

:)
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You touched on the light parts matey.

You forgot the total loss of getting the soldier to salute in spite of all the boner pills...:rolleyes:
That is the tragedy.
 
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