Check where they spotted the ball after they give them the 1st down.
On the 25.
Check where they spotted the ball after they give them the 1st down.
Again, the spot could be wrong but the upholding of the call on the field was correct. Not enough evidence to overturn.Even with the red line being "off," it was still a terrible spot. One of the officials saw the bobble and spotted the ball correctly - probably just short of the first-down marker, though it would have been close. Then another ref overruled that spot and put the ball at the 25. Since the receiver didn't possess the ball until he was on the ground, do you see any way in Hell that the 25-yard line was the correct spot?
But yeh - NO WAY you overturn that!
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But how can you possibly review that play and place the ball at the 25-yard line? A competent officiating crew would have used the review the spot the ball correctly, then measured to see whether NW had the first down. What purpose do chain gangs even serve anymore, if they are never going to be used?Again, the spot could be wrong but the upholding of the call on the field was correct. Not enough evidence to overturn.
There were two separate aspects to this. To uphold or overturn the first down call and the spotting of the ball. They got the call to uphold correct but the spot wrong.But how can you possibly review that play and place the ball at the 25-yard line? A competent officiating crew would have used the review the spot the ball correctly, then measured to see whether NW had the first down. What purpose do chain gangs even serve anymore, if they are never going to be used?
Well if we are talking about middle school gamesBut how can you possibly review that play and place the ball at the 25-yard line? A competent officiating crew would have used the review the spot the ball correctly, then measured to see whether NW had the first down. What purpose do chain gangs even serve anymore, if they are never going to be used?
It was close thoughAgain, the spot could be wrong but the upholding of the call on the field was correct. Not enough evidence to overturn.
Too close to overturnIt was close though
They got both wrongThere were two separate aspects to this. To uphold or overturn the first down call and the spotting of the ball. They got the call to uphold correct but the spot wrong.
The NW guy got blocked into Barney. That was the right call to pick up the flagI was at the game too and I was ticked at this crew. The initial kick catch interference that wasn't called was egregious, dunno if that has been brought up yet?
I was hoping someone would post a close up picture of where he actually secured the catch, to me he was short , some think it was the right call. i think most of Nebraskas sports media think he was shortThey got both wrong
It looked like the receiver secured the catch within inches - one way or the other - of the first down marker. That's why it's ridiculous that the officials just avoided making that decision entirely and spotted the ball where he first made contact with the ball and the defender. Made absolutely no sense whatsoever.I was hoping someone would post a close up picture of where he actually secured the catch, to me he was short , some think it was the right call. i think most of Nebraskas sports media think he was short
That was horrid! There were so many others I completely forgot about itI was at the game too and I was ticked at this crew. The initial kick catch interference that wasn't called was egregious, dunno if that has been brought up yet?
have you seen us play?You actually prayed over a football game, lolol
This is the 3rd game that 1 particular ref of that crew over a couple years has been absolutely lousyBeing at the game and hearing the reactions firsthand was something else. Most fans around me were shouting the chant, but a few (very few) disagreed with it. And that’s fine, everyone’s entitled to their opinion.
However, I want to make a few points clear about what happened and why that chant broke out the way it did. I understand that officials don’t decide the final outcome of a game. I’ve heard every variation of “don’t blame the refs” from people in that camp, but here’s what those folks always overlook:
1. Not every bad call is equal.
2. Getting a call wrong after review is absolutely unacceptable.
3. When one team repeatedly gets the short end of the whistle, the conference should address it.
I prayed we’d win that game because that officiating crew flat-out got too many things wrong. And yes... I chanted “Refs, you suck” because at that point, they truly did.
When I say “not every bad call is equal,” I mean timing matters. I saw that catch replayed on the Memorial Stadium jumbotron at least seven times, and everyone in that building saw the same thing, the receiver didn’t have possession until he was a half-yard short of the line to gain. When the refs said the first down stood, they didn’t just blow the call... they completely flipped the momentum.
That decision changed the entire sequence of the game. Instead of Nebraska having the ball up 21–6 with about 3:15 left in the third, it became Northwestern’s ball in field-goal range. The chant didn’t start until after they scored, because everyone in that stadium knew that drive never happens if the officials made the correct call.
And that wasn’t the only blown call:
- The abrupt movement flag was terrible.
- The declined offsides explanation took the ref three tries to get right.
- The offsetting penalties on the late hit out of bounds were just plain wrong.
I don’t need to list more, fans saw it all. But if refs don’t want to be called out, they can’t make this many bad decisions in front of the most knowledgeable fan base in college football.
So yes, we won. But that crew? They need to be held accountable. A suspension wouldn’t be unreasonable after a performance like that!
And that's why the chantPersonally I luv it and it was well deserved after the catch that wasn’t controlled on 4th down.
The no call face mask on Eric crouch against kst, the hit on OU’s Kelly Phelps by John Ruude phelps Fumbled but the refs supposedly blew the whistle as soon as he caught the ball. No forget the phantom 1 second left on the clock for TexasNothing will ever beat the 1st down run against OSU by a few yards and the officials marked NU short. Has to be the worse call of the decade.
The no call face mask on Eric crouch against kst, the hit on OU’s Kelly Phelps by John Ruude phelps Fumbled but the refs supposedly blew the whistle as soon as he caught the ball. No forget the phantom 1 second left on the clock for Texas
Wilbon ….Well I read today that Michael Wilbon wants the officials disciplined for not calling defensive holding on Northwestern’s final pass attempt, totally screwing Northwestern over.
The spot at the 25 yard line was definitely incorrect. It should have been moved to the 26 but still right there for a first down. The spot was egregious after replay, staying with the first down, was not, IMO. Thanks to those that pointed out the spot at the 25 yard line.Even with the red line being "off," it was still a terrible spot. One of the officials saw the bobble and spotted the ball correctly - probably just short of the first-down marker, though it would have been close. Then another ref overruled that spot and put the ball at the 25. Since the receiver didn't possess the ball until he was on the ground, do you see any way in Hell that the 25-yard line was the correct spot?
But yeh - NO WAY you overturn that!
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The first down stick was on the 27 yard line of the 26 yard hash. Stop looking at the red line or the orange marker on the sideline. Look at the dang sticks. The fact that so many people liked your post is mind boggling.Thanks for the still photos that proved the point. The line to gain it between the 26 and 25 yard line - closer to the 26 but still between the two. After bobbling the pass, the receiver secured the completion and landed between the 26 and 27 yard lines. Closer to the 26, but still a half yard short of the sticks.
The next snap was with the ball marked squarely on the 25.
Just and awful call considering it was reviewed.
I guess we should expect this level of stupidity from an Iowa fan. To slow it down for you, I’m not looking at the red line. I’m looking at the sticks and the orange marker. I realize that Iowa stupid is a special kind of stupid, but the stick is most certainly NOT on the 27 yard line. It’s on the 26, as is the orange marker. Maybe numbers don’t go that high in Iowa?The first down stick was on the 27 yard line of the 26 yard hash. Stop looking at the red line or the orange marker on the sideline. Look at the dang sticks. The fact that so many people liked your post is mind boggling.
Too close to overturn
I said the crew should have used the replay review to correctly spot the ball, then measured to see whether the first down was made. What exactly was incorrect about that?The spot at the 25 yard line was definitely incorrect. It should have been moved to the 26 but still right there for a first down. The spot was egregious after replay, staying with the first down, was not, IMO. Thanks to those that pointed out the spot at the 25 yard line.
He thinks because the red line and the first down marker don't match up, this proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that the WR made the first down - even though he finally secured the ball right near the marker. Whether he actually made it or not, we will never know, because the idiots spotted the ball incorrectly. But by Gawwwd, that red line and first down marker do not match, so it was a first down!!! Look at the dang marker- derp de der!!!I guess we should expect this level of stupidity from an Iowa fan. To slow it down for you, I’m not looking at the red line. I’m looking at the sticks and the orange marker. I realize that Iowa stupid is a special kind of stupid, but the stick is most certainly NOT on the 27 yard line. It’s on the 26, as is the orange marker. Maybe numbers don’t go that high in Iowa?
So, take your own advice. Look at the ‘dang sticks’. Then look at where the ball was when the receiver secured possession.
Naw the big 10 gives them a bonus especially if it helps Ohio State or MichiganI remember a few years ago Kevin Mar screwed up a review so bad he got suspended for a game. Has that ever happened in the B1G? (rhetorical question)
Yep and too close to overturnNot really..he didnt have possession until he was on the ground.
So why would you not use the replay review to correctly spot the ball, then measure for the first down?Yep and too close to overturn
They didn’t uphold the call based on the spot. They based it on the replay and made the correct call.So why would you not use the replay review to correctly spot the ball, then measure for the first down?
Nobody's asking them to just overturn the first down call on a whim. They had everything they needed to spot the ball correctly and get the call right, and were either too lazy or too stupid to do it.
Well that's your story and you're sticking to it, apparently.They didn’t uphold the call based on the spot. They based it on the replay and made the correct call.
Because they’re idiotsWell that's your story and you're sticking to it, apparently.
How could they have based anything on the replay when they turned around and spotted the ball two yards ahead of where the receiver gained possession? That doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
But how can you possibly review that play and place the ball at the 25-yard line? A competent officiating crew would have used the review the spot the ball correctly, then measured to see whether NW had the first down. What purpose do chain gangs even serve anymore, if they are never going to be used?
In junior high football, sure.They don't serve a purpose in measuring of the line to gain is achieved. All first downs start on a yard line, so a crew can easily tell if it's a first down or not by reaching a yard line. Most 2nd and 3rd down spots are "soft spots" which go to the nearest yard line, generally the offensive up-field yard line. "Hard spots" are used exact spot, when ball is within a yard of the first down.
In junior high football, sure.