Refs f’d us.

EngDawg

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ND was allowed to get away with murder all game. Refs must have needed penitence.
 
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Terrible way for the game to go down... just 17ing awful.

Never should have gone to a last second shot. Sweet T got fouled on her shot that they fouled her out on that would have given us free throws.

Itty Bitty gets tackled at mid court and no call.

They let both teams play until we started pulling away then they started calling a different game.

I am sick of this ****. 17 em all
 

Drebin

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Should have never come to that. McCowan missed how many point blank shots today, including that one at the end? For all her positive publicity, I don't understand why she can't make a shot from 5 feet. Or in the case of the last shot, from right under the basket.
 

BlueRidgeMtns

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Perfect example of how much the refs play into the game. That no call was absurd.
 

Lawdawg.sixpack

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Someone else's hand is on her right arm basically every time she shoots the ball.

Refs stole that one. We made the play on defense and had a fast break to win the game.
 
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Just 3 points in the 2nd quarter for Notre Dame...I just knew at Halftime they would get to the Refs and demand some fouls called on us to get their players to the Free Throw Line.

You just can't embarrass a name brand team like ND and not expect the Refs to be pressured into tilting it ND's way for the rest of the game.
 

Drebin

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Someone else's hand is on her right arm basically every time she shoots the ball.

Refs stole that one. We made the play on defense and had a fast break to win the game.

Man, don't be that guy. She missed a layup under the basket that would've changed the game.
 

BoDawg.sixpack

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I can't believe we blew a 14 pt lead

That was the worst possible way to lose this game.
 
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The refs didn’t cost us this game. We couldn’t make a damn shot for nothing. Up by fifteen points in the third quarter and blow it. That’s what cost us the damn game!!!!! We will never win a natty in anything. I swear it’s tough to be a state fan.
 

Lawdawg.sixpack

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I agree it shouldn't have come to that. And I agree that she simply blew the last one. And it was certainly a clean look. No reason to not make THAT shot from 5 feet.
 

FlotownDawg

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Good God she was right under the basket. Wide *** open lay up right at the rim and she blew it. I knew the game was over at that point. The buzzer beater just kept us from five more minutes of torture in overtime.
 

Drebin

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I was surprised we didn’t call a time out during that run to slow it down.

I was yelling that at the time. Should have called timeout and set up a last second play.

For those wanting a foul there, that foul is never going to get called in that situation. We really should have gathered and called time. And it doesn't even come to that, probably, if McCowan hits that layup.
 

Philly Dawg

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Actually, that foul is almost always called. Refs that are purposely swallowing the whistle don’t call fouls on shots late but still call those kind of fouls in the open court.
 

Drebin

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Actually, that foul is almost always called. Refs that are purposely swallowing the whistle don’t call fouls on shots late but still call those kind of fouls in the open court.

Um, no. Not on scramble situations with 4 seconds left on the clock. It was definitely a foul but it's only going to get called if it's intentional contact or flagrant. She was going for the ball. A referee is not going to make that call. In close games down the wire, coaches teach players to be more physical defensively because refs swallow their whistles.

If we call timeout there instead of trying to push the ball without numbers, it never comes to that. If T hits that layup a few seconds earlier, it never comes to that.
 

JoMo MoJo

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That’s where the female bias comes from. I didn’t see a male official anywhere. Vic should have demanded at least one. He’ll probably do that at A&M next year.
 

Lawdawg.sixpack

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But when the defender runs through the offensive player and knocks her off her path and the ball, you HAVE to make that call.
 
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Judging from the comments, several posters feel that the officials made the right calls and did not effect the outcome of the game. I'm not one of them.
 

Duncflydawg

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Um, no. Not on scramble situations with 4 seconds left on the clock. It was definitely a foul but it's only going to get called if it's intentional contact or flagrant. She was going for the ball. A referee is not going to make that call. In close games down the wire, coaches teach players to be more physical defensively because refs swallow their whistles.

If we call timeout there instead of trying to push the ball without numbers, it never comes to that. If T hits that layup a few seconds earlier, it never comes to that.

I would agree with you if they didn’t immediately call a foul on T to set up their game winning shot.
 

MSUDC11

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It was an atrocious missed call that cost us a title. Plain and simple.

Did we play poorly in the second half? Sure. But in that moment, that means nothing. If Morgan doesn’t get hip checked then she has Victoria behind the defense for the winning layup.

Say what you want about “we had our chances”, but we were still robbed in that moment. And the moment just so happened to be with 4 seconds left in the freaking title game.
 

She Mate Me

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It was an atrocious missed call that cost us a title. Plain and simple.

Did we play poorly in the second half? Sure. But in that moment, that means nothing. If Morgan doesn’t get hip checked then she has Victoria behind the defense for the winning layup.

Say what you want about “we had our chances”, but we were still robbed in that moment. And the moment just so happened to be with 4 seconds left in the freaking title game.

Can't be said much better.
 

Go Budaw

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Would it have really changed anything? Let’s say Mo goes to the line and sinks both. There were still like 4 secs left when that contact happened. ND gets ball, calls TO to advance to halfcourt for inbounds, and they have even more time to get off the same shot that they got anyway with 1.6 secs to spare. Lets just face it, Ogumbawale was making whatever she threw up, even if it was falling into press row at halfcourt with LeBron himself in her face.

The 3rd quarter just ended everything for us. We had a 15 point lead and let way off the gas. Nobody but V and T wanted the rock. Everyone else looked borderline panicked whenever they were even forced to dribble a couple of times before getting rid of it. Ro passed up more open 3’s than I could even count. It just wasn’t meant to be, and it sucks.
 

MSUDC11

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Would it have really changed anything? Let’s say Mo goes to the line and sinks both. There were still like 4 secs left when that contact happened. ND gets ball, calls TO to advance to halfcourt for inbounds, and they have even more time to get off the same shot that they got anyway with 1.6 secs to spare. Lets just face it, Ogumbawale was making whatever she threw up, even if it was falling into press row at halfcourt with LeBron himself in her face.

The 3rd quarter just ended everything for us. We had a 15 point lead and let way off the gas. Nobody but V and T wanted the rock. Everyone else looked borderline panicked whenever they were even forced to dribble a couple of times before getting rid of it. Ro passed up more open 3’s than I could even count. It just wasn’t meant to be, and it sucks.

Notre Dame had nothing to lose on the last possession. If they miss, they still get to OT and don’t have to worry about McCowan. Maybe the shot still goes in if they are down two, but maybe we are able to force a turnover on the inbound again with Big T still in the game (remember, if the foul is called on Morgan then she never fouls out).

We will never know how it would’ve played out, but what I do know is that we were robbed of the chance to find out. We should’ve had free throws to take the lead in the final seconds with all the pressure shifted on ND even if we made only one. I hate that we played poorly in the second half, but in a tie game in the closing seconds, throw all that out the window. Our chances of winning go up enormously if that foul is called.
 

She Mate Me

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Notre Dame had nothing to lose on the last possession. If they miss, they still get to OT and don’t have to worry about McCowan. Maybe the shot still goes in if they are down two, but maybe we are able to force a turnover on the inbound again with Big T still in the game (remember, if the foul is called on Morgan then she never fouls out).

We will never know how it would’ve played out, but what I do know is that we were robbed of the chance to find out. We should’ve had free throws to take the lead in the final seconds with all the pressure shifted on ND even if we made only one. I hate that we played poorly in the second half, but in a tie game in the closing seconds, throw all that out the window. Our chances of winning go up enormously if that foul is called.

It's also very easy to excuse the refs by saying we played like ****. You know what, really good teams make other really good teams look ****** sometimes. Every team in the FF played terrible here and there. ND played about as bad a 2nd quarter as it's possible to play. Mabrey had 7 TO's AT THE HALF.
 

Go Budaw

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It's also very easy to excuse the refs by saying we played like ****. You know what, really good teams make other really good teams look ****** sometimes. Every team in the FF played terrible here and there. ND played about as bad a 2nd quarter as it's possible to play. Mabrey had 7 TO's AT THE HALF.

I wasn’t excusing the refs (or the call) at all. I just think, in hindsight, knowing how good Ogumbawale is in the clutch, you can’t definitively say the call changes anything. Maybe we miss both FT’s and the situation is exactly the same. Personally, I don’t think Ogumbawale was gonna miss anything she threw up in the final seconds after watching the past two games. The one she hit tonight was the most ridiculous I’ve seen in any level of basketball in quite some time. Vivians was all over her and she still sunk nothing but the bottom of the net from 3. Now, if you say if T makes the layup AND the correct foul call is made on Mo, then I could get on board with saying we would have won. But there were too many variables left between the blown call and the final whistle. 4 seconds is an eternity in basketball.
 

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If we call timeout there instead of trying to push the ball without numbers, it never comes to that. If T hits that layup a few seconds earlier, it never comes to that.

I'm ok that no timeout was called. Vivians was behind the defense and William was trying to pass ahead to her. If she gets a clean pass ahead, Vivians either gets fouled or can make a layup to win it.
 

MSUDC11

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I wasn’t excusing the refs (or the call) at all. I just think, in hindsight, knowing how good Ogumbawale is in the clutch, you can’t definitively say the call changes anything. Maybe we miss both FT’s and the situation is exactly the same. Personally, I don’t think Ogumbawale was gonna miss anything she threw up in the final seconds after watching the past two games. The one she hit tonight was the most ridiculous I’ve seen in any level of basketball in quite some time. Vivians was all over her and she still sunk nothing but the bottom of the net from 3. Now, if you say if T makes the layup AND the correct foul call is made on Mo, then I could get on board with saying we would have won. But there were too many variables left between the blown call and the final whistle. 4 seconds is an eternity in basketball.

But the foul should’ve been called and we should’ve had an opportunity to take the lead in the final seconds. That was taken away from us. Sure, maybe they still make a three and win. But we got screwed out of a great opportunity and it’s perfectly justifiable to be pissed about it.
 
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