Recruiting ATHLETES

[davecisar]

NU back in the Osborne days would recruit athletes who were just generally good football players and find them a place to play on the field. Heck Bo even did that some- Niles Paul, Cody Glenn, the WR he made into a CB etc

NU RIGHT NOW is recruiting a bunch of kids without well defined positions for THIS team:
LeGrone- TE/WR
Jurgens- TE/LB
Miles Jones-- WR/RB/Slot
Casey Rogers- DE/OLB/TE
Matthew Tago- QB/LB
Nikko Hall- WR/DB
Henry- Slot/RB

Benning said- this staff more than others in the past seems to be betting on the COACHING STAFF being able to coach up athletes into the position that has the greatest level of need. He said some past staffs had to see a perfect fit into what NU was doing at the time. Where this staff can just take a great athlete who is also a football player and see the potential that player may have for doing something they might not have already done a bunch of. They believe in their ability to coach that potential, hence taking less well defined by position kids.

Benning talked about how Frost did that with some of the kids on his CFU team. He also talked about not being limited by what most think the tangibles must be. He's not afraid to start a short OG or tiny RB- or an OT that is less than 6'5 or a LB who weighs less than 220- they see potential, they love effort and they figure out ways for the kids they do have to maximize their potential.

I think back to Osbornes day
Who was the great Omaha Benson QB that ended up moving to Defense and being a great DB?
Bobby Newcombe did pretty well as a returner and Receiver- moved from QB.
They moved kids from Safety to LBs
LBs to DE
Others?

 

[Husker1078]

Having conviction in their system, a clear understanding of what the attributes are for the positions within the system, and knowing how to elvuate and plug the talent into the system....There's an author of a great book that talks about and stresses this approach at even the lowest levels of football...

 

[1fansopinion]

I think back to Osbornes day
Who was the great Omaha Benson QB that ended up moving to Defense and being a great DB?

Tony Veland

 

[davecisar]

yep, thanks how could I forget him- he was great

Athletic QBs are great to have

 

[davecisar]

Having conviction in their system, a clear understanding of what the attributes are for the positions within the system, and knowing how to elvuate and plug the talent into the system....There's an author of a great book that talks about and stresses this approach at even the lowest levels of football...

Ok- none of that- EVER

 

[zrob_rivals105618]

Tony Veland

Good call, I couldn't remember!

 

[TheBeav815]

NU back in the Osborne days would recruit athletes who were just generally good football players and find them a place to play on the field. Heck Bo even did that some- Niles Paul, Cody Glenn, the WR he made into a CB etc

NU RIGHT NOW is recruiting a bunch of kids without well defined positions for THIS team:
LeGrone- TE/WR
Jurgens- TE/LB
Miles Jones-- WR/RB/Slot
Casey Rogers- DE/OLB/TE
Matthew Tago- QB/LB
Nikko Hall- WR/DB
Henry- Slot/RB

Benning said- this staff more than others in the past seems to be betting on the COACHING STAFF being able to coach up athletes into the position that has the greatest level of need. He said some past staffs had to see a perfect fit into what NU was doing at the time. Where this staff can just take a great athlete who is also a football player and see the potential that player may have for doing something they might not have already done a bunch of. They believe in their ability to coach that potential, hence taking less well defined by position kids.

Benning talked about how Frost did that with some of the kids on his CFU team. He also talked about not being limited by what most think the tangibles must be. He's not afraid to start a short OG or tiny RB- or an OT that is less than 6'5 or a LB who weighs less than 220- they see potential, they love effort and they figure out ways for the kids they do have to maximize their potential.

I think back to Osbornes day
Who was the great Omaha Benson QB that ended up moving to Defense and being a great DB?
Bobby Newcombe did pretty well as a returner and Receiver- moved from QB.
They moved kids from Safety to LBs
LBs to DE
Others?

Tony Veland?

I definitely have noticed that they have some guys who are "tweeners" as far as what position you would project them into. I like it, you can't teach athleticism. You take a kid who can flat out play sports, you can teach him the particulars of his assignments.

It drives me nuts when coaches get overly hung up on a guy being 6'2 vs 6'1 to play a certain position and stuff like that. You heard all about Bobby D obsessing over certain measurables, they go out there and play garbage defense, then you turn on UCF and they're wreaking havoc on Auburn with a kid who's missing a hand for God sakes. Is the guy a player or isn't he? I don't want to watch a kid get whipped for 4 quarters and then have somebody be like, "Yeah but his backup though, the circumference of his thighs just isn't what you look for in a 5-technique..."

Your best 22 will be the ones who go out there and do their job right. If you start with kids who create problems for their opponents on the football field and see from there who has a brain in his head, you just might do pretty well for yourself.

 

[davecisar]

Thats why Im such a big fan of this Rogers kid
6'5" and 250

This kid was good enough to get a full ride in Lacrosse at Syracuse
Syracuse is BIG TIME lacrosse- pre season #10
You have to be an athlete that can move, have good body control, explosiveness and cant be stiff to play lacrosse in NY.

This kid also was a hockey and basketball kid- multi athlete

Instead of playing for his dad at one of the very best lacrosse schools in the US- he bet on himself and went to prep school to earn a football scholarship.

Then he spurns those schools near his home to come to Nebraska

He camped at Bama- Saban talked to him for 30 minutes in his office- told him he was a DI football player etc.

This kid could really end up being something special

 

[jhchusker]

NU back in the Osborne days would recruit athletes who were just generally good football players and find them a place to play on the field. Heck Bo even did that some- Niles Paul, Cody Glenn, the WR he made into a CB etc
Randy. Reeves
NU RIGHT NOW is recruiting a bunch of kids without well defined positions for THIS team:
LeGrone- TE/WR
Jurgens- TE/LB
Miles Jones-- WR/RB/Slot
Casey Rogers- DE/OLB/TE
Matthew Tago- QB/LB
Nikko Hall- WR/DB
Henry- Slot/RB

Benning said- this staff more than others in the past seems to be betting on the COACHING STAFF being able to coach up athletes into the position that has the greatest level of need. He said some past staffs had to see a perfect fit into what NU was doing at the time. Where this staff can just take a great athlete who is also a football player and see the potential that player may have for doing something they might not have already done a bunch of. They believe in their ability to coach that potential, hence taking less well defined by position kids.

Benning talked about how Frost did that with some of the kids on his CFU team. He also talked about not being limited by what most think the tangibles must be. He's not afraid to start a short OG or tiny RB- or an OT that is less than 6'5 or a LB who weighs less than 220- they see potential, they love effort and they figure out ways for the kids they do have to maximize their potential.

I think back to Osbornes day
Who was the great Omaha Benson QB that ended up moving to Defense and being a great DB?
Bobby Newcombe did pretty well as a returner and Receiver- moved from QB.
They moved kids from Safety to LBs
LBs to DE
Others?

 

[crymsonsteel]

NU back in the Osborne days would recruit athletes who were just generally good football players and find them a place to play on the field. Heck Bo even did that some- Niles Paul, Cody Glenn, the WR he made into a CB etc

NU RIGHT NOW is recruiting a bunch of kids without well defined positions for THIS team:
LeGrone- TE/WR
Jurgens- TE/LB
Miles Jones-- WR/RB/Slot
Casey Rogers- DE/OLB/TE
Matthew Tago- QB/LB
Nikko Hall- WR/DB
Henry- Slot/RB

Benning said- this staff more than others in the past seems to be betting on the COACHING STAFF being able to coach up athletes into the position that has the greatest level of need. He said some past staffs had to see a perfect fit into what NU was doing at the time. Where this staff can just take a great athlete who is also a football player and see the potential that player may have for doing something they might not have already done a bunch of. They believe in their ability to coach that potential, hence taking less well defined by position kids.

Benning talked about how Frost did that with some of the kids on his CFU team. He also talked about not being limited by what most think the tangibles must be. He's not afraid to start a short OG or tiny RB- or an OT that is less than 6'5 or a LB who weighs less than 220- they see potential, they love effort and they figure out ways for the kids they do have to maximize their potential.

I think back to Osbornes day
Who was the great Omaha Benson QB that ended up moving to Defense and being a great DB?
Bobby Newcombe did pretty well as a returner and Receiver- moved from QB.
They moved kids from Safety to LBs
LBs to DE
Others?

Tony Veland

 

[crymsonsteel]

NU back in the Osborne days would recruit athletes who were just generally good football players and find them a place to play on the field. Heck Bo even did that some- Niles Paul, Cody Glenn, the WR he made into a CB etc

NU RIGHT NOW is recruiting a bunch of kids without well defined positions for THIS team:
LeGrone- TE/WR
Jurgens- TE/LB
Miles Jones-- WR/RB/Slot
Casey Rogers- DE/OLB/TE
Matthew Tago- QB/LB
Nikko Hall- WR/DB
Henry- Slot/RB

Benning said- this staff more than others in the past seems to be betting on the COACHING STAFF being able to coach up athletes into the position that has the greatest level of need. He said some past staffs had to see a perfect fit into what NU was doing at the time. Where this staff can just take a great athlete who is also a football player and see the potential that player may have for doing something they might not have already done a bunch of. They believe in their ability to coach that potential, hence taking less well defined by position kids.

Benning talked about how Frost did that with some of the kids on his CFU team. He also talked about not being limited by what most think the tangibles must be. He's not afraid to start a short OG or tiny RB- or an OT that is less than 6'5 or a LB who weighs less than 220- they see potential, they love effort and they figure out ways for the kids they do have to maximize their potential.

I think back to Osbornes day
Who was the great Omaha Benson QB that ended up moving to Defense and being a great DB?
Bobby Newcombe did pretty well as a returner and Receiver- moved from QB.
They moved kids from Safety to LBs
LBs to DE
Others?

Stanley Jean Baptiste was who Bo moved from WR to CB

 

[WestCoastCornhusker2]

Stanley Jean Baptiste was who Bo moved from WR to CB

Sorry, you lost me after "Heck even Bo did this"

 

[OHPAHusker]

You heard all about Bobby D obsessing over certain measurables, they go out there and play garbage defense, then you turn on UCF and they're wreaking havoc on Auburn with a kid who's missing a hand for God sakes.

Best line I've seen on the board in a while.Smokin

 

[z28craz]

I was actually thinking about this a few days ago. Dr. Tom really turned the corner in the early and mid 90’s when he went and got athletes. The the better part of his first 20 years we had really good teams that went through many regular seasons beating up on everyone, only to get to the bowl game to play a team with superior speed and we just couldn’t keep up. So he went and recruited athletes with speed and put them on the field in areas of need. Combine that with solid coaching and we got that magical run from ‘93 to ‘97. You can’t coach speed. But can take a kid with speed and teach him to play certain positions. It seems Frost is going with a similar approach. I love it!