Reclassification Process: how does it work?

[EarthDogNed]

Can someone please educate me on how it is possible for so many recruits to effectively skip their senior year?

My senior year of high school I was required to take the equivalent of like 14 classes (seven classes a day, with a seminar period, for two semesters). Mandatory classes were English 12 (a year-long course), and Government (one semester). The other 12 classes had to be filled with electives. You could not take English 12 until you had completed English 11.

How the F can these guys make this election in the second half of their spring semester as juniors and get these classes completed? Even if they were online there’s no way I would have been able to complete 14 additional courses late in the spring/over the summer.

What am I missing here?

 

[uky8unc5]

Wonderful world of online classes

 

[caneintally]

Online classes , some have taken courses over the summer and various other ways.It really isn't that hard these days. It was say back in my day ( I graduated in 99) but these days with online courses ect it can be done pretty easily especially if you are planning for it a year or so out.

 

[awf]

Can someone please educate me on how it is possible for so many recruits to effectively skip their senior year?

My senior year of high school I was required to take the equivalent of like 14 classes (seven classes a day, with a seminar period, for two semesters). Mandatory classes were English 12 (a year-long course), and Government (one semester). The other 12 classes had to be filled with electives. You could not take English 12 until you had completed English 11.

How the F can these guys make this election in the second half of their spring semester as juniors and get these classes completed? Even if they were online there’s no way I would have been able to complete 14 additional courses late in the spring/over the summer.

What am I missing here?

I graduated in 1972....my junior year I had Jr English and two study halls.....I went to work at noon.....my plan was to go to summer school to take Sr English. I went back and took Sr. English and two study halls......I went to work at noon. All you have to do is take a couple of extra classes and don't take any electives.....

 

[mjj_2K]

Keep in mind that most of the reclassify players are already in their 4th year of HS when they're listed as juniors. It's not so much reclassify as go back to their real HS class.

Andre Drummond and Nerlens Noel are 2 great examples. They both started in regular high schools, and played 2 years there. Then they went to prep schools (legit ones, not just basketball academies), and sort of repeated their sophomore years. By the time they had completed 2 years at those prep schools, their academics were good enough to qualify for college, and they clearly didn't need any more HS basketball, so they went back to what their original HS graduating class would have been.

Canadian High Schools are a 5 year deal, so players coming out of that (Wiggins, Murray, Barrett, some others) might be listed as freshmen or sophomores in HS, but actually have a head start.

Of all the players who've done it, Bagley was by far the most fishy, with Ayton not far behind. Not a lot of tangible academics for either, just a bunch of smoke and mirrors to gain eligibility.

And at some point, it seems like the NCAA stopped caring about doing deep investigations into the validity of any of this. The attitude seems to be "if the schools want to admit them, we'll let them play".

 

[420grover]

My son is a senior this year. He had enough credits, except the required 4 years of Math and English, to graduate last year. He doesn't have to be at school until 11:15 every morning. So he could've taken those 2 courses last summer and graduated early.

 

[Rupp'sRunt]

My son is a senior this year. He had enough credits, except the required 4 years of Math and English, to graduate last year. He doesn't have to be at school until 11:15 every morning. So he could've taken those 2 courses last summer and graduated early.

Do you live in ky? Whatever state you're in the school system must be in shambles where they let kids walk in at 11:15

 

[TopCatCal]

Keep in mind that most of the reclassify players are already in their 4th year of HS when they're listed as juniors. It's not so much reclassify as go back to their real HS class.

Andre Drummond and Nerlens Noel are 2 great examples. They both started in regular high schools, and played 2 years there. Then they went to prep schools (legit ones, not just basketball academies), and sort of repeated their sophomore years. By the time they had completed 2 years at those prep schools, their academics were good enough to qualify for college, and they clearly didn't need any more HS basketball, so they went back to what their original HS graduating class would have been.

Canadian High Schools are a 5 year deal, so players coming out of that (Wiggins, Murray, Barrett, some others) might be listed as freshmen or sophomores in HS, but actually have a head start.

Of all the players who've done it, Bagley was by far the most fishy, with Ayton not far behind. Not a lot of tangible academics for either, just a bunch of smoke and mirrors to gain eligibility.

And at some point, it seems like the NCAA stopped caring about doing deep investigations into the validity of any of this. The attitude seems to be "if the schools want to admit them, we'll let them play".

You're right about Bagley being the most fishy. It's my understanding that that kid didn't even have a high school diploma. Yet somehow Duke was able to get him eligible.

 

[ganner918_rivals60369]

With a few summer classes, I'd think it would be easy to graduate in 3 years. I went to a Catholic high school so 1 of my 7 classes was religion - which is obviously not a state required class. Only 6 classes per year went toward mandated standards. If I'd taken an extra mandatory class each of my first 3 years, I'd have had 21 of 24 state required credits in 3 years. I've talked to people who went to public schools and, in their senior years, have multiple study halls because they just don't need many classes to graduate.

 

[FFWhite]

Take an elective English or math class your junior year on top of a regular schedule and you will have the necesssry hours.

 

[420grover]

Do you live in ky? Whatever state you're in the school system must be in shambles where they let kids walk in at 11:15

Yes, I live in Kentucky. He takes college courses on Tuesday and Thursday mornings before going to high school so the education system must definitely be screwed up around here. He's already been accepted to UK also.

 

[Rupp'sRunt]

Yes, I live in Kentucky. He takes college courses on Tuesday and Thursday mornings before going to high school so the education system must definitely be screwed up around here. He's already been accepted to UK also.

Hes probably taking AP classes which can be transferred to certain amounts of college credits depending how well he does on the final. BTW those classes have about a 50% chance of being accepted. Getting into UK from in state is pretty common.

Ive never heard of kids being excused until midday though, pretty wild.

 

[Cindog28]

I graduated in '94 and the only class I needed to graduate was Senior English. It wasn't until noon, so after volleyball and basketball season was over then I wouldn't go to school until noon.

 

[JwUKFan11]

Do you live in ky? Whatever state you're in the school system must be in shambles where they let kids walk in at 11:15

This is popular in most states lmao

 

[RACdad]

Do you live in ky? Whatever state you're in the school system must be in shambles where they let kids walk in at 11:15

My daughter did her senior yr in TN. She had an online AP course in the morning. Sometimes she went to the library. But most of the time she didn't get to school until around 0900

 

[Rupp'sRunt]

This is popular in most states lmao

Show me a link? I live in a big city and no schools do this.

 

[Rupp'sRunt]

My daughter did her senior yr in TN. She had an online AP course in the morning. Sometimes she went to the library. But most of the time she didn't get to school until around 0900

9 seems like a fine time my school had late start around that time every weds. I've never heard of a HS'er strolling into school around noon though, seems bizarre. We had work study where people were allowed to go to a "job" and leave an hour early. I went to a private catholic school though, maybe its public school thing?

 

[Wildcats1st]

Can someone please educate me on how it is possible for so many recruits to effectively skip their senior year?

My senior year of high school I was required to take the equivalent of like 14 classes (seven classes a day, with a seminar period, for two semesters). Mandatory classes were English 12 (a year-long course), and Government (one semester). The other 12 classes had to be filled with electives. You could not take English 12 until you had completed English 11.

How the F can these guys make this election in the second half of their spring semester as juniors and get these classes completed? Even if they were online there’s no way I would have been able to complete 14 additional courses late in the spring/over the summer.

What am I missing here?

A great many high school students could graduate a year early if they wanted to and that’s without online or correspondence, or independent study factored in.

 

[Wildcats1st]

Show me a link? I live in a big city and no schools do this.

I’ve taught in two different states and it the kid has the clases completed they are done, finished. They no longer put kids in classes for the sake of putting them in classes once your done you can move on.

 

[JwUKFan11]

Show me a link? I live in a big city and no schools do this.

You’ve never heard of dual enrollment??