With that fumble call. Wtf! I know we did ourselves no favors offensively but that was the dagger and I knew the game was over at that point-especially with no timeouts left. Definitely a winnable game but alas the football gods still screw us over.
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That pass should have never been made. WR was blanketed. 3rd and long. Throw a long pass and look for a penalty. Play to win.
So he secured the ball and took two full steps before she getting stripped? I'm just asking because obviously I was in the stadium and haven't been able to reply it. Thanks.
I believe he had the ball secured. Point some are making, was forward progress stopped?
I was curious about the forward progress. He caught the ball and was driven only backward, and then the ball was stripped. I know that's a judgement call by the refs on the field, but felt it should have applied there. Need to see it on replay now that I'm home, though. I know that's not something the booth can overturn.
There are only two possible calls there, forward progress stopped or incomplete.
If he fell down instead of dropping the ball where would it have been spotted?
He was being driven backwards. Despicable that they didn't even take a look on replay.
If he fell down instead of dropping the ball where would it have been spotted?
He was being driven backwards. Despicable that they didn't even take a look on replay.
Can this be applied during the replay? To my knowledge, this can only apply if the officials blow the whistle and no whistle was blown when the fumble was made.
It looks to me that Patton caught the ball at around the 28-yard line, then was driven back past the 24 before fumbling.
Driven back 5 or 6 yards. Whistle should have blown.
But why throw a 6 yard pass on 3rd and 17?
But why throw a 6 yard pass on 3rd and 17?
It seemed to be the theme of the day. The officials didn't call one defensive pass interference all day and there were some questionable plays on both side, so it was no surprise on the fumble.
what a terrible call. There is no way that can be a fumble, he's been driven back 5 yards. If that's not reviewable what's the point of replay?
It looks to me that Patton caught the ball at around the 28-yard line, then was driven back past the 24 before fumbling.
Do you guys listen to post game comments ? Iowa was playing two high safeties. Mehringer said, take what's there, punt, pin them back and play field position. He even mentioned that the defense had multiple stops in a row up to that point.....actually, the entire 2nd half.
Exactly what I saw, a guy driven back about 5 yards has clearly stopped his forward progress after two to three. They allowed the play to continue in error. The rule is in place for this exact reason so you can't stand up a guy and hack away at the ball trying to cause a fumble.They blew it plain and simple.
It looks to me that Patton caught the ball at around the 28-yard line, then was driven back past the 24 before fumbling.
Doesn't matter if he was fighting and wiggling the rule states if a player is being pushed back or all forward momentum has ceased, his forward progress has ceased to exist. These refs clearly don't understand the rules of forward progress. Since it seems the B1G can't afford to buy these guys a rule book, I'll donate one to this crew, it'll only cost me $6.99. Or they can have mine and I'll highlight the important stuff like forward progress.
Brodo you are really doing some nice work with these stills.
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Can't forget that two bad plays before this one also set up this disaster at 3rd & 16.
1st: Goodwin up the gut for 2 yard loss
2nd: Laviano taking bad sack for 4 yard loss
1st: Goodwin up the gut for 2 yard loss
2nd: Laviano taking bad sack for 4 yard loss
Yes. Unfortunately, Patton did possess it long enough before the ball was stripped. My question there however, is why the hell did Laviano throw a six yard pass when it was third and seventeen? It didn't make any sense.
Again why are we running that play ? The way our defense was playing run the ball and punt. Or a safe screen . I don't see any reason for that play call and execution
I think it was reviewable. But we had no timeouts, which made it impossible to review.
Might be wrong on the rule, though.
I think what the official would say is while they were not making any progress he also didn't feel the defender had total control of the receiver therefor he didn't stop the play. Plays like this that are 1 on1 they tend to let it go longer than if the receiver was being gang tackled and was losing progress. It is a complete judgement call. Forward progress is only reviewable on whether a player crosses the goal line or for first downs. I can see that play being called both ways and being right/wrong both ways.