Really it is simple. Keep Mullen

[jdbulldog]

and raise the assistant coaches salaries to a level where we can attract great assistants and keep them.

 

[missouridawg]

and raise the assistant coaches salaries to a level where we can attract great assistants and keep them.

This is certainly my preferred option, but I just don't think it's feasible. When Mullen wanted to be here, there was no other coach in the country besides Saban, Urban, and Harbaugh that I wanted. Seriously, everyone else has flaws that I could've argued for Mullen against.

When a husband asks other women out for a date, drives to pick them up, but the woman backs out.... Does that make the wife any less pissed? Mullen kept flirting and lost his fan base.

Also, Mullen and his agent spent a lot of time negotiating a higher salary for himself... If he was smart and wanted to use us as a stepping stone, he would've instead negotiated for a higher assistant salary pool. Instead of making $4mil, he could make $3.25mil and spend another $750K on assistants. He got greedy for himself and is now stuck with the lower assistants pool.

 

[thatsbaseball]

Is our losing assistants more about money or Mullen ?

 

[Shmuley]

Hell, even our AD couldn't take him.

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

Considering how Diaz and Collins defenses schematically don't look anything like ours that we have every year, I'd say it's not money. We had a DC take a demotion to get away from Mullen. We had one go to 17ing Kansas to get away from Mullen. Our OC went to UT as a WR coach. It's a Mullen problem.

 

[klong-dog]

Thanks goodness SOME of our assistants don't make any more than they already do.

 

[Strike.sixpack]

Considering how Diaz and Collins defenses schematically don't look anything like ours that we have every year, I'd say it's not money. We had a DC take a demotion to get away from Mullen. We had one go to 17ing Kansas to get away from Mullen. Our OC went to UT as a WR coach. It's a Mullen problem.

What? Torbush was told to look around because he wasn't very good and was going to be let go. We gave Les the same opportunity. We gave Collins play calling before Wilson left, he was demoted but again let him find a landing spot. Those were the dumbest examples you could have picked and completely wrong in those cases.

 

[msugolf]

SMH! Why is it so hard for our fans to understand. HE. DOES. NOT. WANT. TO. BE. HERE!

He's even made comments behind closed doors that he doesn't think State can win the west.

Change assistants, raise salaries, play younger players, etc. None of it matters at this point.

 

[GhostOfJackie]

and raise the assistant coaches salaries to a level where we can attract great assistants and keep them.

Why didn't we do this 5 years ago. We might have at least put a plug in the sinking ship if we had more coaches stay around longer. A big part of our problems in recruiting comes from the fact that we can't keep assistants here long enough to develop good relationships with recruits.

 

[horshack.sixpack]

Is he wrong? It takes some pretty significant star alignment(or a Saban resignation) for anyone to beat Bama(sometimes LSU) for the West title. Look at the lengths that the Bears went to just to give it a shot and they can't get to Atlanta. If we began to cheat on their level, got the same recruiting results and retained Mullen would we fare any better? I don't know the answer to that, but I do know that the West with Saban at the helm of Bama is ridiculous.

PS: This is unrelated to the dumpster fire of a season that we are having; for which there is NO excuse.

 

[fishwater99]

So just pay his buddies even more money not to recruit, yea that will work.

Mullen can't keep good coaches because he runs them off.

If the HC doesn't want to be here why would other coaches want to coach for him.

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

I know it may be hard for you to believe, but everything on message boards are not true. There is not one factual piece of evidence that states those people were let go. Message boards rumors aren't facts, pal. Were they told to look elsewhere? Maybe. But I guarantee you they sure as hell didn't fight either. Mullen is a micromanaging egomaniac that is a turd to work for.

 

[Strike.sixpack]

I know it may be hard for you to believe, but everything on message boards are not true. There is not one factual piece of evidence that states those people were let go. Message boards rumors aren't facts, pal. Were they told to look elsewhere? Maybe. But I guarantee you they sure as hell didn't fight either. Mullen is a micromanaging egomaniac that is a turd to work for.

I didn't get any of that from the message boards. It is what happened. Torbush was told point blank he needed to find somewhere else to go or we would let him go. Wilson was demoted before our bowl game and Collins was given play calling. That is very common knowledge not message board rumors. You have absolutely no clue how he is to work for but are wrong on why those guys left. Crap, Keoning was appreciative that Dan let him find a place to go before firing him.

 

[xxxWalkTheDawg]

He's even made comments behind closed doors that he doesn't think State can win the west .

i hope one of those in attendance shot back about how he can't beat Georgia tech in the biggest bowl game of MSU football history to date, with the arguably the best QB in the SEC, with Georgia Tech running a variation of an offense that was in use when the forward pass was illegial.

 

[NCDawg.sixpack]

His comment about State not being able to win the West is a little different from when he was first hired. He had visions of grandeur. He was going to get all the top recruits in Mississippi, win the West, and we would be driving through Tuscaloosa ringing our cowbells on the way to Atlanta.

 

[horshack.sixpack]

His comment about State not being able to win the West is a little different from when he was first hired. He had visions of grandeur. He was going to get all the top recruits in Mississippi, win the West, and we would be driving through Tuscaloosa ringing our cowbells on the way to Atlanta.

Agree. And that likely speaks more the reason that it might be time to move on. If he doesn't believe that it is possible, he's going to have a hard time selling players that it is possible. (i.e. maybe he's lost his fire after 8 years and not getting it done, even with Dak). The SEC West is just a meat grinder and it's bound to take its toll on you.

I suspect Freeze feels the same way after going all in with the '13 class and not being able to win. Difference is that he has to keep coaching at a high level because he is about to be tainted goods and only a spectacular W/L record will help him stay employed.

 

[Toddyrebel75.sixpack]

Is he wrong? It takes some pretty significant star alignment(or a Saban resignation) for anyone to beat Bama(sometimes LSU) for the West title. Look at the lengths that the Bears went to just to give it a shot and they can't get to Atlanta. If we began to cheat on their level, got the same recruiting results and retained Mullen would we fare any better? I don't know the answer to that, but I do know that the West with Saban at the helm of Bama is ridiculous.

PS: This is unrelated to the dumpster fire of a season that we are having; for which there is NO excuse.

LMAO!

 

[Junction John]

uh

 

[jdbulldog]

Good one JJ

 

[fishwater99]

Hell, even our AD couldn't take him.

That had more to do with Keenum.