Realignment Rumors

[rutgersguy1_rivals]

Karma is a ***** lol. N&O article with comments from Tranghese and how this all started 20 years ago with the ACC.

Also this line about Texas.

He’d found it “comical,” he said, that the SEC received criticism for taking Texas and Oklahoma. “Every one of those other conferences had contacted Texas,” Tranghese said. “I know that for a fact. And Texas and Oklahoma made a decision, they wanted to leave. And they went to the SEC and the SEC got vilified, and so what do people do? They turn around and do the same exact thing. “That’s the world we live in.”

https://www.newsobserver.com/sports...ueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

 

[ru66]

It's not worth a poo poo listening to all the "experts" acting like they know anything.

 

[anon_ivydyf0amkzay]

Karma is a ***** lol. N&O article with comments from Tranghese and how this all started 20 years ago with the ACC.

Also this line about Texas.

He’d found it “comical,” he said, that the SEC received criticism for taking Texas and Oklahoma. “Every one of those other conferences had contacted Texas,” Tranghese said. “I know that for a fact. And Texas and Oklahoma made a decision, they wanted to leave. And they went to the SEC and the SEC got vilified, and so what do people do? They turn around and do the same exact thing. “That’s the world we live in.”

https://www.newsobserver.com/sports...ueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

In 2011 and 2012 A&M, MU and NU got vilified for ruining CFB and destroying rivalries. USC, UCLA, OU and TX are ending rivalries that go back many decades.

That’s CFB in 2022…rivalries matter less than HUGE payouts! For a program like RU, though, with no real rival, this is all gravy!

 

[rutgersguy1_rivals]

Not surprising considering the SEC really has no where to go if you think the ACC GOR will hold and I do. I never thought of it being realistic for the SEC to go out west. Mid 2030s is where things can change with regards to the SEC and taking ACC schools.

 

[ScarletDave]

North Carolina +2000 for Big Ten but only +750 for Cincinnati to the SEC? Is it 14 year olds who just started watching college football last year making some of these tweets ???

 

[Blitz8RU]

Big Ten Blame

The Big Ten’s recent expansion is being blamed on Fox and ESPN, but it is actually an example of content extracting maximum value through consolidation

stratechery.com

The SEC’s new deal looks a lot different: ESPN has exclusive rights to SEC football


for $300 million per year. That increase is driven by the SEC’s dominance of college football, and corresponding national interest; that interest will be that much greater thanks to the addition of Texas and Oklahoma (which will almost certainly lead to an increase in rights fees). In short, sports are the biggest driver of pay-TV, which means it is essential to have the sports the most people want to watch; the SEC figures prominently in that regard.

Still, it is the Big Ten, based in the sports-obsessed Midwest, and filled with massive public universities churning out interested alumni who live all over the country, that is the most attractive of all; even before this expansion the conference was rumored to be seeking a deal for $1.1 billion/year. Add in the Los Angeles market and UCLA and USC fan bases and that number could end up even higher.

 

[WhichReligionIsRight]

Big Ten Blame

The Big Ten’s recent expansion is being blamed on Fox and ESPN, but it is actually an example of content extracting maximum value through consolidation

stratechery.com

The Big 10 has a huge long-term demographic advantage over the SEC.

 

[rutgersguy1_rivals]

Thoughts on ESPN and the PAC12 and how private bondholders of Cal might have a legal case against UCLA (UC system) if it affects creditworthiness.

https://www.johncanzano.com/p/canzano-espn-plays-kingmaker-as-pac

 

[rutgersguy1_rivals]

From the article:

“It’s hard to say because there are so many different variables,” Thamel said on The Paul Finebaum Show. “If Notre Dame goes — which I don’t think they’re going anywhere imminently — their dance parter would be Stanford. The grant of rights is a factor in who they go over. What would be the order of things happening? The grant of rights is actually, literally, the rights have been granted. The ACC owns all the rights to North Carolina, Clemson games to 2036. So it is going to be a difficult, briar patch of a legal battle to get those back from the league in order to do it because literally, the livelihood of the league would depend on it.

Pete Thamel reveals what's next for Big Ten/SEC, how ACC grant of rights impacts expansion

ESPN insider Pete Thamel explained what's next for the Big Ten and SEC, as well was what the ACC's grant of rights means for expansion.

www.on3.com

 

[cubuffsdoug_rivals]

Thoughts on ESPN and the PAC12 and how private bondholders of Cal might have a legal case against UCLA (UC system) if it affects creditworthiness.

https://www.johncanzano.com/p/canzano-espn-plays-kingmaker-as-pac

Why can't UCLA improve its position? Isn't it Cal's problem they allowed themselves to be in the situation by not being proactive? Shouldn't each campus be responsible for the success and well-being of their school within the system?

 

[rutgersguy1_rivals]

Why can't UCLA improve its position? Isn't it Cal's problem they allowed themselves to be in the situation by not being proactive? Shouldn't each campus be responsible for the success and well-being of their school within the system?

They can but this is just suggested as a possible legal leg to stand on to attack a move. It doesn’t mean it would work or that bondholders would be affected enough for it to work either.

 

[Caliknight]

8 million ppl aren’t glued to their set when Rutgers is on. If we’re being honest, Ohio State should get a bigger cut than Rutgers or Maryland. That’s the direction this is going

Ohios DMA isn’t being monetized like the NYC DMA is because of Rutgers. We should be getting a bigger cut than a number of other schools.

 

[RUStatenIsland]

There is absolutely zero loyalty in college athletics right now. It's ALL about money. If the Big Ten thinks it could make more money by kicking out Rutgers and bringing in someone else, they will do it in a heartbeat. That's why it's important to 1) Improve football attendance starting THIS YEAR and 2) Be more competitive in conference play. I'm not saying we have to beat Ohio State but we can't keep getting blown out all the time. I'm confident both these things will happen and Rutgers will remain safe in the B1G, especially since other sports are doing so well now too.

 

[rutgersguy1_rivals]

 

[Knight Shift]

Why can't UCLA improve its position? Isn't it Cal's problem they allowed themselves to be in the situation by not being proactive? Shouldn't each campus be responsible for the success and well-being of their school within the system?

California does not appear to work that way.

 

[rutgersguy1_rivals]

Like I’ve said 1-2 years early out of the GOR, I could envision but 10+ not so much. It won’t be cheap too even at 1-2.

https://www.si.com/college/2022/07/13/big-12-commissioner-says-conference-is-open-for-business

https://sports.yahoo.com/big-12-is-now-the-hunter-and-has-the-pac-12-in-its-sights-162453663.html

 

[AdventureHasAName]

When people say Rutgers “won’t compete, won’t pay players directly and will drop out of major athletics” this what they are saying.
Rutgers is going to go from $100m/year to $1m/year? If you think that, I’ve got a bridge to sell you
Tell me how we’re recruiting, keeping HC GS and HC Pike, funding all our teams.

https://www.on3.com/news/conference-tv-deals-current-status-college-football/

No, we're saying Rutgers will not buy players, will collect $100 mil/year, will call themselves "Big Time Football," and will be content to go 0-11 every year.

We're also saying that the schools that aren't in the conferences making $100 mil/year will drop out of major athletics altogether.

 

[NBKnight]

Wonder if all team participate equally in increased revenue from new deal or if there is some proration. If payout goes to 90 per school would Ru see an immediate 25 million increase?

We would get the $90M less the debt payment due that year.

 

[NBKnight]

No, we're saying Rutgers will not buy players, will collect $100 mil/year, will call themselves "Big Time Football," and will be content to go 0-11 every year.

We're also saying that the schools that aren't in the conferences making $100 mil/year will drop out of major athletics altogether.

The schools don’t pay the players, that would need to come from donors, regardless of the conference payout. We also play 12 games a year.

 

[AdventureHasAName]

The schools don’t pay the players, that would need to come from donors, regardless of the conference payout.

And those donors aren't going to be able to pay what is necessary to compete. And the school administration isn't going to give a **** because they get to pass "Go" and collect their $200 every year.

 

[pmvon]

Yeah but the new money can be directed the other things and donor money can be directed to NIL.