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RedCap_rivals330392

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Just an observation and opinion - you may have different ones:

So far it doesn't appear that Raiola has the magic recruiting touch of Mickey Joseph. Recently lost out on a couple of highly ranked, high profile OL recruits to Michigan and Oklahoma. Also struck out earlier with his nephew.

Yet to be seen is how good of a OL coach he is. And the OL worries me the most about the upcoming team this fall.
 
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IndyHusker

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RedCap said:
Just an observation and opinion - you may have different ones:

So far it doesn't appear that Raiola has the magic recruiting touch of Mickey Joseph. Recently lost out on a couple of highly ranked, high profile OL recruits to Michigan and Oklahoma. Also struck out earlier with his nephew.

Yet to be seen is how good of a OL coach he is. And the OL worries me the most about the upcoming team this fall.
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Yeah, losing out to those two cupcakes is a sure sign of weakness. Especially the Michigan kid to Michigan.
 
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RedCap_rivals330392

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IndyHusker said:
Yeah, losing out to those two cupcakes is a sure sign of weakness. Especially the Michigan kid to Michigan.
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Except in contrast Mickey Joseph seems to have done pretty well competing against that LSU cupcake for Louisiana kids. ;)

And that was my point, so far at least, Raiola is no Mickey Joseph when it comes to recruiting. Of course I'll readily admit not many are in the Mickey Joseph league.
 
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Joseph was a college coach in Louisiana for the past few years, and is from the state and had relationships with most all of those kids for a couple of years. Raiola was coaching for the Bears. I say it is pretty premature to really comment or have an opinion on Raiola's recruiting chops
 
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konaki

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The guy hasn't coached a game yet. lets see how he does before we dog pile on him. If you are a very good OL coach in college and you show you can move the guys to the next level they will come.
 
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RedCap_rivals330392

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konaki said:
The guy hasn't coached a game yet. lets see how he does before we dog pile on him. If you are a very good OL coach in college and you show you can move the guys to the next level they will come.
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I didn't say anything about his coaching ability. Nobody has seen his OL in games yet. He's unknown as being the main OL coach. So that part remains to be seen.
 
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itseasyas1-2-3

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Tuco Salamanca said:
Joseph was a college coach in Louisiana for the past few years, and is from the state and had relationships with most all of those kids for a couple of years. Raiola was coaching for the Bears. I say it is pretty premature to really comment or have an opinion on Raiola's recruiting chops
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In addition to the building of relationships with kids prior to them signing with NU.

It seems obvious the majority of kids recruited during the first 4 years of the Frost/Austin OL coaching regime, as an overall group, there has been little development.

With the exception of Jaimes, Farniok and Jurgens, overall identifying legitimate D1 OL and then developing them has been a major negative. Farniok appears to have improved a lot since he left NU. Jaimes is on the Chargers roster, and Jurgens had the physical tools, but likely will improve a lot at the next level.

The overall makeup of the OLmen has a lot of kids who have been here 2-3 years now and have not shown much improvement. Teddy, maybe Corcoran and maybe 1-2 more will hopefully improve with the coaching change.

The others like Hixson, Williams, Anthony, Lutovsky, Benhart, Piper, Banks need to take big steps forward to indicate what Raiola does actually works. And I'm not saying it will or won't show in their overall performance. I'd like the overall unit to at least be adequate without holes all over the OL.

NU rose to the top of college football through through recruiting and then developing OL into dominant types. Unless and until NU can prove they have a coach(es) in place who can accelerate their development it will be hard to define what level of coach Raiola is.

There's a lot of raw material, both in size and experience for NU to make a lot improvement over the next couple years. I'd still just as soon see NU recruit those 6'3"-6'4" OL types that already have good feet, and then increase their size, strength, agility, and technique.

Feel free to agree or disagree.

I think the OL and unknowns within that group appear to be the weakest part of the team.
 
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JabroniBlvd

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He is the most vital part of this staff now IMO. We can't strike out with him. We have always had the athletes in comparison the the West but OL has been trash lately. I'll give him a chance this season and next before making judgments. OL can for sure be a development position unlike some others.
 
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I actually think DR is doing a fantastic job on the road. First year ever to be on the recruiting trail and was already having better talent seriously consider us then Austin ever could. And DR isn’t afraid to recruit with the big boys. It’s really easy at Nebraska for a coach to talk himself into recruiting basically only “under the radar” regional kids. It makes the job easy and you start to buy into the lie yourself. Then when you play teams like Ohio State and get exposed you act like you have no clue what went wrong… we aren’t getting that with DR. He’s not afraid to go into Georgia and try to take the states best lineman from the Bulldogs. Or go in to Michigan and try to steal one from the wolverines. This is the kind of fight we need. Cause as long as DR keeps going and keeps being optimistic, he’s going to get some of these hits. Sure he could recruit regionally and lock up recruiting early by fighting for guys that the competition is Wyoming, Colorado ST, and South Dakota St but that won’t pay off down the road
 
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konaki said:
The guy hasn't coached a game yet. lets see how he does before we dog pile on him. If you are a very good OL coach in college and you show you can move the guys to the next level they will come.
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No one is dog piling. He's a question mark at this point. We all know that NFL doesn't translate well to college at times. If he's going to be successful, he's going to put effort into recruiting. It's only one cycle so far.
 
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RedCap said:
Just an observation and opinion - you may have different ones:

So far it doesn't appear that Raiola has the magic recruiting touch of Mickey Joseph. Recently lost out on a couple of highly ranked, high profile OL recruits to Michigan and Oklahoma. Also struck out earlier with his nephew.

Yet to be seen is how good of a OL coach he is. And the OL worries me the most about the upcoming team this fall.
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The issue with his nephew has to do with Scott Frost and margaritas. Don't blame the uncle for that one
 
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bigboxes said:
No one is dog piling. He's a question mark at this point. We all know that NFL doesn't well to college at times. If he's going to be successful, he's going to put effort into recruiting. It's only one cycle so far.
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His lines were an abomination in the NFL
 
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steinek11

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RedCap said:
Except in contrast Mickey Joseph seems to have done pretty well competing against that LSU cupcake for Louisiana kids. ;)

And that was my point, so far at least, Raiola is no Mickey Joseph when it comes to recruiting. Of course I'll readily admit not many are in the Mickey Joseph league.
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Settle down. No one on the staff is in Mickey's class. It's going to be him and then Bill Busch and then everyone else fighting for third place.
 
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realHuskerDrew

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We just need to get good again and win games. This Frost **** has been just stupid and I am tired of it. I don’t care who we recruit or don’t… we just need to win with whoever we have.
I foresee a 5-6 win season, and hopefully a new coach of that happens
 
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mikecanale

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RedCap said:
Just an observation and opinion - you may have different ones:

So far it doesn't appear that Raiola has the magic recruiting touch of Mickey Joseph. Recently lost out on a couple of highly ranked, high profile OL recruits to Michigan and Oklahoma. Also struck out earlier with his nephew.

Yet to be seen is how good of a OL coach he is. And the OL worries me the most about the upcoming team this fall.
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Riola is new to the college game. He'll improve as a recruiter with time. He was not hired primarily for his recruiting record (which is minimal), but to get more out of the talented offensive linemen we already have who are underachieving.
 
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HuskerDrew said:
We just need to get good again and win games. This Frost **** has been just stupid and I am tired of it. I don’t care who we recruit or don’t… we just need to win with whoever we have.
I foresee a 5-6 win season, and hopefully a new coach of that happens
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Frost has had better talent than his record in all four years. His performance is unacceptable.
 
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bama_husker

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mikecanale said:
Riola is new to the college game. He'll improve as a recruiter with time. He was not hired primarily for his recruiting record (which is minimal), but to get more out of the talented offensive linemen we already have who are underachieving.
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And he will need to do that quickly or it will not matter how he or the rest of the current staff recruit.
 
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konaki

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The way some of you pile on a guy when he hasn't even been here a full season is now the norm for some Nebraska fans I guess. I will reserve my opinion until I see how his group performs this year.

I know there's a lot of PTSD with many fans of Nebraska football but why don't you wait until Raiola finishes one year before you bury the guy. So many knowledgeable experts on this site who could not coach football at the YMCA or youth programs, truly a remarkable group of people.
 
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Comparing him to Mickey isn’t really fair. Mikey has had some long standing relationships with his recruits. Omarion Miller, for example, had know Mickey since Middle School.
 
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konaki said:
The way some of you pile on a guy when he hasn't even been here a full season is now the norm for some Nebraska fans I guess. I will reserve my opinion until I see how his group performs this year.

I know there's a lot of PTSD with many fans of Nebraska football but why don't you wait until Raiola finishes one year before you bury the guy. So many knowledgeable experts on this site who could not coach football at the YMCA or youth programs, truly a remarkable group of people.
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Again, no one is piling on Raiola. Recruiting is part of his job, not just coaching his players up.
 
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RedCap said:
Except in contrast Mickey Joseph seems to have done pretty well competing against that LSU cupcake for Louisiana kids. ;)

And that was my point, so far at least, Raiola is no Mickey Joseph when it comes to recruiting. Of course I'll readily admit not many are in the Mickey Joseph league.
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Comparing the 2 are comparing apples to Oranges, Mickey has been at the recruiting game almost all of his career, Riola is new to the game , the only thing I want to see out of Riola right now is getting the OLine to play up to par , which hasn’t happened the last 4 years.
 
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Yantzeee said:
I actually think DR is doing a fantastic job on the road. First year ever to be on the recruiting trail and was already having better talent seriously consider us then Austin ever could. And DR isn’t afraid to recruit with the big boys. It’s really easy at Nebraska for a coach to talk himself into recruiting basically only “under the radar” regional kids. It makes the job easy and you start to buy into the lie yourself. Then when you play teams like Ohio State and get exposed you act like you have no clue what went wrong… we aren’t getting that with DR. He’s not afraid to go into Georgia and try to take the states best lineman from the Bulldogs. Or go in to Michigan and try to steal one from the wolverines. This is the kind of fight we need. Cause as long as DR keeps going and keeps being optimistic, he’s going to get some of these hits. Sure he could recruit regionally and lock up recruiting early by fighting for guys that the competition is Wyoming, Colorado ST, and South Dakota St but that won’t pay off down the road
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I'm reluctant to agree with Gary Busey about most topics, but I did love him in D.C. Cab.
 
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konaki

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bigboxes said:
Again, no one is piling on Raiola. Recruiting is part of his job, not just coaching his players up.
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Sure they are, the guy hasn't been a year yet and people expect him to pull in 4 or 5 star player, not happening until we see what he can do with his group.
 
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konaki said:
Sure they are, the guy hasn't been a year yet and people expect him to pull in 4 or 5 star player, not happening until we see what he can do with his group.
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We're just talking about it. This is a message board. Discussions take place. @RedCap said our OL worries him. I'm pretty sure it worries all of us.
 
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Juan Malo

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bigboxes said:
We're just talking about it. This is a message board. Discussions take place. @RedCap said our OL worries him. I'm pretty sure it worries all of us.
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Yep we all should worry about the OL this year. A lot of unknowns. But for the OP to start off questioning DR’s recruiting tells me he woke up wondering what he could whine about today.
 
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Imo the top lineman will probably have a wait and see, remember the transfer portal is a big piece now so don’t get to shook that were a little low. As if right now I want to see a big improvement with the players we have
 
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otismotis08 said:
Couldn't even land Dylan
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I can't believe I'm the only NU fan that thinks NU never had a chance to land him, regardless of his Dad and Uncle.

You think Dominic would like the prospect of his son taking snaps with the lack of quality NU has shown in protecting a QB the last 4 years?

Just because Dylan signed with OSU doesn't mean he can't transfer to NU in a couple years if by some miracle NU starts to land some really good OLmen. Not likely, but not impossible either.

Unless I'm mistaken, the kid still has 2 years of High School football before he even thinks about taking a snap at OSU or anywhere else in college.
 
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itseasyas1-2-3 said:
I can't believe I'm the only NU fan that thinks NU never had a chance to land him, regardless of his Dad and Uncle.

You think Dominic would like the prospect of his son taking snaps with the lack of quality NU has shown in protecting a QB the last 4 years?

Just because Dylan signed with OSU doesn't mean he can't transfer to NU in a couple years if by some miracle NU starts to land some really good OLmen. Not likely, but not impossible either.

Unless I'm mistaken, the kid still has 2 years of High School football before he even thinks about taking a snap at OSU or anywhere else in college.
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It was a joke 😃. But yes, maybe if all goes right he could still get here.
 
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IndyHusker

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RedCap said:
Except in contrast Mickey Joseph seems to have done pretty well competing against that LSU cupcake for Louisiana kids. ;)

And that was my point, so far at least, Raiola is no Mickey Joseph when it comes to recruiting. Of course I'll readily admit not many are in the Mickey Joseph league.
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Mickey has been around for a while and coached for a national champion.
 
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