Quote from Cal in a 2014 interview.

[yoshukai]

“Everybody is concerned with either Kentucky or their kid. And they may not be concerned about Kentucky. They'd like us to win and do well but they're more concerned with their kid. And every kid is hearing that. And their futures are right in front of them. And some of them are dealing with generational poverty. To them, this is their one shot. I don't take that lightly. I don't make it about this program. This program is going to be fine. This program hasn't suffered one bit with what I've tried to do here and the way I've tried to do it. Not one bit. Now people get upset with me and say I don't worry about the program enough. But I haven't been transparent about it. I said it at my opening press conference. This program will be about players first. This thing is the way it is because of guys like Dan Issel and people like that. That's why this place is the way it is.”

Wonder if he still thinks the program hasn’t suffered one bit ?
What the hell does the Dan Issel comment mean ?

 

[yoshukai]

Here’s the whole interview, it turns my stomach.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...qa-not-about-uk-program-its-about-the-player/

 

[CROCAT]

Dan Issel is 10x the UK legend Cal will ever be, so no wonder snide remarks like those were made by the lesser man. And no wonder Issel was able to spot a fraud even way back then, when 99% of the fanbase including me was blinded. Dan was coached by the best of the best, not some guy who couldn't beat West Virginia and Wisconsin with All Star rosters at his disposal

 

[KyFaninNC]

Cal Brigade here in seconds to tell us that was just coach speak.

 

[Cat4life03]

I'm at the point now I don't believe anything he says. Not even sure he believes the stuff that comes out of his own mouth anymore.

 

[sluggercatfan]

“Everybody is concerned with either Kentucky or their kid. And they may not be concerned about Kentucky. They'd like us to win and do well but they're more concerned with their kid. And every kid is hearing that. And their futures are right in front of them. And some of them are dealing with generational poverty. To them, this is their one shot. I don't take that lightly. I don't make it about this program. This program is going to be fine. This program hasn't suffered one bit with what I've tried to do here and the way I've tried to do it. Not one bit. Now people get upset with me and say I don't worry about the program enough. But I haven't been transparent about it. I said it at my opening press conference. This program will be about players first. This thing is the way it is because of guys like Dan Issel and people like that. That's why this place is the way it is.”

Wonder if he still thinks the program hasn’t suffered one bit ?
What the hell does the Dan Issel comment mean ?

DI stayed 4 years at UK and still became an ABA/NBA star. Go fogure.

 

[KyFaninNC]

I'm at the point now I don't believe anything he says. Not even sure he believes the stuff that comes out of his own mouth anymore.

Yep, but I have always believed that, From his introduction when we first hired him, i did not like what he was saying. Turns out it has all been true. He has never hidden the fact that his #1 priority was to get kids drafted as soon as possible.

 

[JwUKFan11]

Took 7 years before you could finally throw that quote in his face huh? Lmaoooo

 

[BluCroo]

First off, Cal couldn't care less about "the kid" unless "the kid" can help him achieve his goals.

All of that crap he spews is just rhetoric designed to get the fanbase on board with his plan to use the Kentucky basketball program as a NBA farm club.

 

[kyblue'92]

Don't even compare Dan Issel's legacy to the ones left behind by guys like this bunch. Cal lets his mouth overload his *** way too much and it's coming to haunt him now.

 

[BluCroo]

Cal knows that it's the only way he can succeed. He can't develop players. He's not a good X and Y coach. So the only path to success for him is to take charge of a top program and use it's reputation and resources to attract the best talent out there,...then ride on the coat tails of that talent.

Obviously, that won't work unless you can attract the best talent and Cal can't do that any longer.

That's why the program is in meltdown mode.

 

[Cawood86_rivals]

People will eventually reveal themselves and their agenda. Most folks looked the other way because Cal was going to the FF and winning a title.
The generational poverty thing is such a car salesman pitch. Made to make everyone feel bad for questioning his way.

 

[ukydood]

Cal has made clownish remarks and had clownish antics for years. When a clown makes you laugh and smile, you love it. When a clown is creepy and scares you, you want it gone. Winning determines clown like ability. This record suggests Pennywise.

 

[westerncat]

As my Dad used to say "someone is getting to big for their britches" . It's time for Cal to change or hit the door.

 

[gossie21_rivals69805]

The program has generally benefitted from this arrangement. But it is shortsighted for Calipari not to consider the downside, which this season has fully demonstrated.

Having a OAD program can be (and largely has been) mutually beneficial. Kentucky gets better players, wins more games, and competes for more championships. But that doesn't work if the OAD players are leaving to become 2nd round draft picks, or undrafted, or transfers.

Calipari used to be able to bring in the best of the best. He is not doing that any more. The number of top-5 ranked recruits up through the 2014 recruiting class was eleven. That averages out to more than 2 per class. We have only had 2 in the 6 recruiting classes since then. All of this is well known and has been discussed ad-nauseum even before this season began. The question is what do we need to do to get back to what was working right those first 5 seasons? I have very little hope that any substantial changes will be made

 

[KyFaninNC]

People will eventually reveal themselves and their agenda. Most folks looked the other way because Cal was going to the FF and winning a title.
The generational poverty thing is such a car salesman pitch. Made to make everyone feel bad for questioning his way.

Using his “white privileged” to help poor black kids and if you disagree with him, then you have to be racist.

 

[LoavulLou]

What the hell does the Dan Issel comment mean ?

It doesn't matter in what context you mention Dan Issel, just saying his name is magic and works on UK fans like an elixir.

If I were coach, I'd start randomly peppering my statements with Tommy Kron, Coton Nash, Kyle Macy and Frenchy DeMoisey.

 

[Tubbyfan78]

Ask Dontaie Allen, Jemarl Baker, Johnny Juzang, Dominique Hawkins if it's about all the kids or just certain ones.

 

[Runnin'Ramel]

You would think Cal would want to win a title as bad as any coach in the game at this point. He knows he only has 1 with more talent than anyone else in a 10-year period. It's ridiculous to look at the list of players UK boasts ... and yet, just 1 title.

 

[420grover]

I thought we were supposed to be about championships? People on here ***** about Cal only having 1 championship but that's 1 more than Dan Issel won here.

 

[Cat4life03]

So your comparing 12 years of coaching vs 4 years playing??? Get out of here

I thought we were supposed to be about championships? People on here ***** about Cal only having 1 championship but that's 1 more than Dan Issel won here.

 

[king of cali]

Ask Dontaie Allen, Jemarl Baker, Johnny Juzang, Dominique Hawkins if it's about all the kids or just certain ones.

Such a bullsh*t take. It’s lazy to act like these guys should have been playing more when they had superior players in front of them.

Baker had Herro, Johnson and IQ in front of him. Should have have taken minutes away from any of them?

Juzang played behind IQ and Maxey. Should he have been getting more minutes at their expense.

Hawkins had many better players in front of him. But he stuck it out and was able to become a valuable contributor as an upperclassman.

Allen has the same opportunity should he choose to stick around instead of transferring because he only played 12 minutes a game as a freshman.

 

[RalphDaltonFan]

Cal has a team that resembles Malibu's Most Wanted this year and it's why they get punked. When your program has success like he had when taking over, everyone and their brother wants to be affiliated or join--coaches and players. Only takes returning to what you initially did to get back on top. Hopefully that happens, have my doubts.

 

[KyFaninNC]

I thought we were supposed to be about championships? People on here ***** about Cal only having 1 championship but that's 1 more than Dan Issel won here.

Can you provide a link where Dan Issel ever coached at UK?

 

[RoyKent]

Can you provide a link where Dan Issel ever coached at UK?

What has he done to help UK succeed in basketball since playing here 50 years ago?

 

[know1]

Reading that quote, you can't say that UK wasn't warned.

 

[jessieshorts8]

What has he done to help UK succeed in basketball since playing here 50 years ago?

Is UK paying Dan millions of dollars to do something for them?

 

[ManitouDan_anon]

What has he done to help UK succeed in basketball since playing here 50 years ago?

True colors shining thru .

 

[KyFaninNC]

What has he done to help UK succeed in basketball since playing here 50 years ago?

To my knowledge, he is not paid to. What have you done to help UK succeed?

 

[RoyKent]

To my knowledge, he is not paid to. What have you done to help UK succeed?

Paid for season tickets

 

[KyFaninNC]

Paid for season tickets

Just how does that help win games? You are just buying a seat.

 

[fastpaste101]

First off, Cal couldn't care less about "the kid" unless "the kid" can help him achieve his goals.

All of that crap he spews is just rhetoric designed to get the fanbase on board with his plan to use the Kentucky basketball program as a NBA farm club.

His goal is to make Uk an nba farm club? Okay. To what end?

not arguing the point just not clear on what you think his goals are.

 

[Blue_2_the_bone_rivals]

People will eventually reveal themselves and their agenda. Most folks looked the other way because Cal was going to the FF and winning a title.
The generational poverty thing is such a car salesman pitch. Made to make everyone feel bad for questioning his way.

Yep. The only kids who’ve gotten out of generational poverty under Cal are the ones who would have still gotten out of it if they went to any other college to play. Cal has been virtue signaling for a while.

 

[kl40504_rivals]

People will eventually reveal themselves and their agenda. Most folks looked the other way because Cal was going to the FF and winning a title.
The generational poverty thing is such a car salesman pitch. Made to make everyone feel bad for questioning his way.

You revealed yourself many years ago.

 

[Tubbyfan78]

Such a bullsh*t take. It’s lazy to act like these guys should have been playing more when they had superior players in front of them.

Baker had Herro, Johnson and IQ in front of him. Should have have taken minutes away from any of them?

Juzang played behind IQ and Maxey. Should he have been getting more minutes at their expense.

Hawkins had many better players in front of him. But he stuck it out and was able to become a valuable contributor as an upperclassman.

Allen has the same opportunity should he choose to stick around instead of transferring because he only played 12 minutes a game as a freshman.

Hawkins played behind Isaiah Briscoe for two years. Go ahead and defend that one. Baker was pulled every time he missed a shot. Meanwhile Herro was free to brick as many as he could miss. Maybe, if Cal had worked Baker in during the season, when Herro went 0 for the day against Auburn, we would have had a chance. No knock on Herro, kid was a baller but he wasn’t so good he couldn’t find more minutes during the year. Cal is all about and only about his reputation of getting his guys to the league. If you can’t help him with that, he isn’t interested in helping you.

 

[ManitouDan_anon]

Hawkins played behind Isaiah Briscoe for two years. Go ahead and defend that one. Baker was pulled every time he missed a shot. Meanwhile Herro was free to brick as many as he could miss. Maybe, if Cal had worked Baker in during the season, when Herro went 0 for the day against Auburn, we would have had a chance. No knock on Herro, kid was a baller but he wasn’t so good he couldn’t find more minutes during the year. Cal is all about and only about his reputation of getting his guys to the league. If you can’t help him with that, he isn’t interested in helping you.

still pisses me off Dom didnt get A handful more minutes . He earned them IMO

 

[king of cali]

Hawkins played behind Isaiah Briscoe for two years. Go ahead and defend that one. Baker was pulled every time he missed a shot. Meanwhile Herro was free to brick as many as he could miss. Maybe, if Cal had worked Baker in during the season, when Herro went 0 for the day against Auburn, we would have had a chance. No knock on Herro, kid was a baller but he wasn’t so good he couldn’t find more minutes during the year. Cal is all about and only about his reputation of getting his guys to the league. If you can’t help him with that, he isn’t interested in helping you.

This sh*t is laughable. Briscoe, despite his shooting limitations, was a flat out better player than Hawkins. I mean that’s not even up for debate. He averaged 12, 5, and 4 as a 4th option.

Maybe some of you live in an alternate universe, it coaches play the best players. The guys that give them the best chance to win. Baker didn’t give you a better chance than Herro, IQ, or Keldon Johnson. Baker played behind all 3 of those guys on the wing. There’s no case for him to receive more minutes over them. Absolutely no case!!!

Baker had a chance to get a bump in minutes the following season, but he bailed. No knock on him, he did what he felt was best. But the opportunity was there and he bounced. He could have done like Hawkins and kept grinding. And Hawkins had quite a few good games his senior season and is remembered quite fondly.

 

[Tubbyfan78]

This sh*t is laughable. Briscoe, despite his shooting limitations, was a flat out better player than Hawkins. I mean that’s not even up for debate. He averaged 12, 5, and 4 as a 4th option.

Maybe some of you live in an alternate universe, it coaches play the best players. The guys that give them the best chance to win. Baker didn’t give you a better chance than Herro, IQ, or Keldon Johnson. Baker played behind all 3 of those guys on the wing. There’s no case for him to receive more minutes over them. Absolutely no case!!!

Baker had a chance to get a bump in minutes the following season, but he bailed. No knock on him, he did what he felt was best. But the opportunity was there and he bounced. He could have done like Hawkins and kept grinding. And Hawkins had quite a few good games his senior season and is remembered quite fondly.

I can’t argue with stupid.

 

[HagginHall1999]

Hawkins played behind Isaiah Briscoe for two years. Go ahead and defend that one. Baker was pulled every time he missed a shot. Meanwhile Herro was free to brick as many as he could miss. Maybe, if Cal had worked Baker in during the season, when Herro went 0 for the day against Auburn, we would have had a chance. No knock on Herro, kid was a baller but he wasn’t so good he couldn’t find more minutes during the year. Cal is all about and only about his reputation of getting his guys to the league. If you can’t help him with that, he isn’t interested in helping you.

What was wrong with Briscoe exactly? He was a solid player. Couldn't shoot a lick but had a solid game...very much old school.

 

[KyFaninNC]

What was wrong with Briscoe exactly? He was a solid player. Couldn't shoot a lick but had a solid game...very much old school.

He did well till other coaches figured out to play off him and take away his driving. He was basically useless after that. Could not shoot terrible free throw shooter. Played hard. Stepped out of bounds a lot. Traveled al lot. But yea. He was amazing. Another bad evaluation from Cal.