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big red23

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I am being cautiously optimistic about this class, because where we are at right now is okay not terrible and not great. Right now there is 7 and 1/2 days left and we need "at least" 5 more guys.

Here are 10 question I have at the moment...

1. Are there any kids that we are legitimately in on that are set to announce before NSD?

2. Are the commitments of G. Holmes, K. Curl, N. Robinson (committing before he sees us) ect... a sign of we have others that we feel good about, or did we just lose the battle for them?

3. What is purpose of waiting till the last minute to sign?

4. Is waiting for all the Plan A guys worth it? Are we going to end up with an unfilled class?

5. Are we going to lose our (IMO) most needed recruit Guy Thomas

6. If we do lose Thomas or Watts, do we have any other recruits out there that are interested in us? The only DL that I know of that we are in on is Damion Daniels.

7. If there is such a thing as a Silent Commit I sure as hell hope we have a few this year! If we don't we could be in for a terrible NSD.

8. Is Diaco going to bring a transfer with him, or what recuits is he working on besides Daniels?

9. When is the other coach going to be hired, and what is he going to coach?

10. Did CJ. Verdell visit this last weekend, and are there any recruits like Verdell that are Mysteries that are being hidden from us?

This time of year drives me absolutely crazy... if you didn't already know that ;)
 
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big red22 said:
I am being cautiously optimistic about this class, because where we are at right now is okay not terrible and not great. Right now there is 7 and 1/2 days left and we need "at least" 5 more guys.

Here are 10 question I have at the moment...

1. Are there any kids that we are legitimately in on that are set to announce before NSD?

2. Are the commitments of G. Holmes, K. Curl, N. Robinson (committing before he sees us) ect... a sign of we have others that we feel good about, or did we just lose the battle for them?

3. What is purpose of waiting till the last minute to sign?

4. Is waiting for all the Plan A guys worth it? Are we going to end up with an unfilled class?

5. Are we going to lose our (IMO) most needed recruit Guy Thomas

6. If we do lose Thomas or Watts, do we have any other recruits out there that are interested in us? The only DL that I know of that we are in on is Damion Daniels.

7. If there is such a thing as a Silent Commit I sure as hell hope we have a few this year! If we don't we could be in for a terrible NSD.

8. Is Diaco going to bring a transfer with him, or what recuits is he working on besides Daniels?

9. When is the other coach going to be hired, and what is he going to coach?

10. Did CJ. Verdell visit this last weekend, and are there any recruits like Verdell that are Mysteries that are being hidden from us?

This time of year drives me absolutely crazy... if you didn't already know that ;)
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Good list of questions. Unfortunately I have zero answers
 
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big red22 said:
4. Is waiting for all the Plan A guys worth it? Are we going to end up with an unfilled class?
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I don't have the answers obviously, but if don't get the guys they want, perhaps it would be better to have an unfilled class than to do a Pelini shuffle and bring in a few walking scholarship wasters. Next years class is going to small, so they could add the leftovers to next years class to make it larger. Anyways, just my opinion on this one question of yours.
 
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big red22 said:
3. What is purpose of waiting till the last minute to sign?
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High school athlete has not made his decision yet and is torn between a couple different schools.

4. Is waiting for all the Plan A guys worth it? Are we going to end up with an unfilled class?
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Only worth it if you get them! I am sure most coaches would prefer to have all recruits locked down before hand and would "settle" for waiting on on a couple max.
Last year seemed to surprise the coaches when Fitzpatrick went elsewhere and I don't think they want that happening again.

9. When is the other coach going to be hired, and what is he going to coach?
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When Riley announced Diaco's hiring on Friday, he said that they would hire a safeties coach after NSD and that they wanted to focus on recruiting in the mean time.
 
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big red23

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Next question is

Who did Donte Williams visit is Atlanta, GA? Is he helping out Parella and talking to Robert Beal? He is the only recruit I know we were talking to from Georgia...
 
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big red22 said:
Next question is

Who did Donte Williams visit is Atlanta, GA? Is he helping out Parella and talking to Robert Beal? He is the only recruit I know we were talking to from Georgia...
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In the 2017... I don't know.

But I have read about the staff recruiting for 2018 and 2019, so my guess is that he did a little 2017 and 2018 recruiting in Tampa, Jacksonville, Atlanta, and LA yesterday.
 
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Is he helping out Parella and talking to Robert Beal?
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I like the idea of our best recruiters helping out with different positions.

In the past, the assistant coaches each had a region that they recruited. Coaches ended up recruiting players for different positions than they coached. I would put my two best recruiters on the top priority players, along with the other coaches that are recruiting those players.

I hate the thought of handicapping our team because we only let our head coach, DC/OC, and position coach recruit a certain kid instead of our ace recruiters.

I understand that the position coach will be his coach, but when you have KW and DW as good recruiters, why wouldn't you want them out there helping the cause for the greater good?

The team is only as good as its weakest link, and when Hank Hughes didn't recruit his D-Line position, it hurt the rest of the team. Someone should have stepped in and made sure something like that didn't happen!
 
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Toms Wife said:
On NSD he does...and he hurt them by playing out the process til the eleventh hour.
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This is an individual decision. The future "team" shouldn't factor in at all. If I am given until Feb 1 to make a decision then I should be able to wait until Feb 1. If Nebraska or another school wants a firm answer before Feb 1 then give him a deadline. If he says I'm still waiting until Feb 1 then The team should offer their plan b and accept the the commitment. Makes the choice easier for the original guy because he now has 1 less option.
 
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huskerfan1414 said:
The main reason kids wait is because of attention and fanfare.
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Absolutely. Most only get this opportunity one time.

Very few commitments are actually not known by the schools involved. Again watch the actions of players believed to be plan Bs at all schools just not Nebraska. Commitments taken out of the blue or a commitment from a guy that was believed to have been committed elsewhere are sure indicators.
 
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Also if there was reports about a guy daily from a Nate Clouse or Josh Harvey, then suddenly nothing, pretty good sign the recruit is ignoring writers from a particular school. Example of that is Guy Thomas.
 
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Toms Wife said:
On NSD he does...and he hurt them by playing out the process til the eleventh hour.
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Bogus.

If Joe Lewis decides on signing day to be a Husker, in no way will we be talking about how much he hurt us.

He only hurts the schools he never chooses.
 
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big red22 said:
3. What is purpose of waiting till the last minute to sign?
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A lot of reasons have been posted. Yes some are prima donnas. Others are just good humble kids that just have an issue telling people no. All are teenagers. So many teenagers have difficulty picking out what they wear to school on any given day, so picking the next 4 or 5 years of there life is crazy. And it's not just millennials that do this. Been this way for ever. Waiting until the last minute use to be all the rave back in the 80's & 90's. Hell I don't think Bobby Bowden started recruiting until January.

Then in the early 2000's Mack Brown started locking up classes in spring, almost 10 months before NSD. Then more and more kids started committing earlier to every school. This seemed smart on paper until it was apparent that some of those sure shot HS JRs & Soph had actually peeked and were going downwards by there HS Sr year and also, guys like Mack were missing out on late bloomers. Now it seems like the trend is going back to committing later. Not nearly like it was back in the day but the early commits aren't as much as they use to be or so it seems. I have no actual data to really back that, its just how it feels.


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9. When is the other coach going to be hired, and what is he going to coach?
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TwinsRRUS already answered this but I'd like to add that Diaco is also being able to pick the new coach & he should. Sometimes when new DCs are brought in, they are allowed to re-do the whole defensive staff if that's what they choose. Diaco is awesome for basically going with the flow and keeping the guys currently on the staff. When Bo was hired back in 2003 as DC he got to pick many of his coaches. Of course Frank had input and officially the final say as head coach but Bo did a complete over all face lift. Diaco is really only getting one of his guys and having to adapt to the others.
 
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Toms Wife said:
On NSD he does...and he hurt them by playing out the process til the eleventh hour.
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So, the good thing to do is pass a law against it. That will fix it. Give these kids a break, they are going to spend 4-5 years away from home at these schools. Tom went to Yale but was that his only choice?
 
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If I did the search correctly 287 recruits rated 4* or higher have already committed. 61 recruits rated 4* or higher are undecided. Out of that 61 remaining I would guess some have problems (academics, injuries, etc.).

Depending on your rationale, there could be different ways of looking at it. Maybe NU doesn't have the appeal to get recruits to commit early. Maybe the staff doesn't have the appeal to get recruits to commit early. Maybe we chased recruits that have trouble making decisions because they wouldn't rule us out early.

These are just my opinions.
1. Maybe? Nick Robinson is supposed to announce tomorrow, it would be before is official visit to NU. I would hope any of the flippers out of common decency would let everyone know before signing day.

2. We lost the battle. But, I don't see it as we lost the one and only guys that we were after. They were just possible choices for us that went somewhere else.

3. Wanting their 15 minutes of fame, can't make a decision until they might as well just wait anyway. Like Calvin, there may be other forces at work that interfere with the decision making process.

4. It's only worth it if they sign with us. We'll know the answer in February.

5. I would think Guy Thomas would've already left if he's going to leave.

6. I think we get to see and read about the recruits that are interested in us. Could there be some players we told had to wait, could be, but I don't see us having a long list of recruits waiting for someone to decline to get a spot.

7. Silent commit? I would think a good portion of players waiting this long to commit have made up their minds and either strongly hinted or just outright told the parties involved. We could see a Calibraska signing day or a gnashing of teeth signing day for all I know.

8. I don't see UConn as a recruiting force, so I don't see Diaco pulling in a bunch of recruits. See my note above about 287 commits and only 61 remaining uncommitted. I see transfers as highly unlikely except for maybe grad transfers.

9. TwinsRRUs already discussed.

10. Don't know.
 
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A lot of reasons have been posted. Yes some are prima donnas. Others are just good humble kids that just have an issue telling people no. All are teenagers. So many teenagers have difficulty picking out what they wear to school on any given day, so picking the next 4 or 5 years of there life is crazy. And it's not just millennials that do this. Been this way for ever. Waiting until the last minute use to be all the rave back in the 80's & 90's. Hell I don't think Bobby Bowden started recruiting until January.

Then in the early 2000's Mack Brown started locking up classes in spring, almost 10 months before NSD. Then more and more kids started committing earlier to every school. This seemed smart on paper until it was apparent that some of those sure shot HS JRs & Soph had actually peeked and were going downwards by there HS Sr year and also, guys like Mack were missing out on late bloomers. Now it seems like the trend is going back to committing later. Not nearly like it was back in the day but the early commits aren't as much as they use to be or so it seems. I have no actual data to really back that, its just how it feels.



Also, some early commits have major injuries in their senior year and colleges may get stuck with a recruit that isn't what they thought they would be.
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Tony Wallace is visiting Lincoln this weekend. DB formerly committed to Arizona, signs Blades, Lenoir and/ or Onyemaobi aren't interested anymore.
 
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Lenoir is in Florida as well playing with best friend and Oregon commit Nick Pickett... Wow love how that worked out. Blades basically is getting another visit to Florida and rooming with heavy Gator lean Chris Henderson and Lenoir is down there with Pickett how awesome is that Sick

https://twitter.com/chgoduke66

So many things working against us!
 
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I think we get:

Rafdal at TE
Jamire Calvin at WR
Thompson at WR
Daniels at NG
Elijah Blades at CB

We still have a shot at Greg Johnson too!
 
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big red22 said:
I am being cautiously optimistic about this class, because where we are at right now is okay not terrible and not great. Right now there is 7 and 1/2 days left and we need "at least" 5 more guys.

Here are 10 question I have at the moment...

1. Are there any kids that we are legitimately in on that are set to announce before NSD?
There are about 10 guys were legitimately in that are deciding. I think we get at least 4, hoping for 6-7 of them.
2. Are the commitments of G. Holmes, K. Curl, N. Robinson (committing before he sees us) ect... a sign of we have others that we feel good about, or did we just lose the battle for them?
I think you're spot on. We have silent commits (yes that plural) and I'm pretty sure we cooled on all 3 of the guys mentioned.

3. What is purpose of waiting till the last minute to sign?
To have a big elaborate celebration with family and friends
4. Is waiting for all the Plan A guys worth it? Are we going to end up with an unfilled class?
The staff has a good understanding where they stand with plan A guys, so if they feel it's worth, the. IMO it's worth it.
5. Are we going to lose our (IMO) most needed recruit Guy Thomas
Seems like he's the Dez Fitzpatrick of this class. Still think we hang on to him though.
6. If we do lose Thomas or Watts, do we have any other recruits out there that are interested in us? The only DL that I know of that we are in on is Damion Daniels.
Not that I'm aware of.
7. If there is such a thing as a Silent Commit I sure as hell hope we have a few this year! If we don't we could be in for a terrible NSD.
Yes, we have silent commits, plural. Nate Clouse has repeatedly stated this.

8. Is Diaco going to bring a transfer with him, or what recuits is he working on besides Daniels?
No, as of now, small chance he brings a senior grad transfer NT from UCONN, won't know until later this year, but don't expect him to bring anyone according to clouse and Callahan

9. When is the other coach going to be hired, and what is he going to coach?
Probably after signing day, he will coach DBs, safety in particular
10. Did CJ. Verdell visit this last weekend, and are there any recruits like Verdell that are Mysteries that are being hidden from us?
I believe he did visit last weekend, he for sure has visited, not many mystery guys im aware of, and wouldn't classify Verdell as a mystery recruit. We've been on him for a long time.

This time of year drives me absolutely crazy... if you didn't already know that ;)
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I completely agree, stressful time, especially when you're after a lot of big time players, get use to it though, this staff has proven there going toe to toe with the "big boys" in recruiting. We as fans, need to look at this team and program as one of the "big boys" or "big dogs" in recruiting. We're on a great path to success
 
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huskerfan1414 said:
Wh

know and thing about tony wallace?
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He's a solid player. 5'10 180lbs from Las Vegas.

I think he is clearly a notch below the others being talked about but I heard he is visiting this weekend even after his trip to Arizona. Technically still committed to UofA
 
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