Question for the Mullen haters...

[tenureplan]

preface: This season has been extremely hard for me to watch and some of his decisions, primarily clock management, have driven me crazy.

Do you remember Dak as a freshman/sophomore? Not much different than Fitz, but we did have a better upper class option in Russell. Now look at what he is doing. Based on his physicals, he only warranted a 4th round pick. But he is appearing to be the most ready rookie in the history of the NFL, and he is coming from a SPREAD team. Granted, we all know about his intangibles. But do you not think that we will see one of the Nick's take close the same trajectory? Do any of you remember Moulds' first year/two and what followed...I know some that view the late 90's as the glory years, but the mid 90's were highly inconsistent.

So now Mullen was inconsistent in '13 and '16. That's a lower frequency than the Kang had.

We might not repeat '14 next year, but Dan will develop. And if not, next year is the year.

ETA: lets just hope we don't pick up a tiny scatback late. Because the most glaring thing I see with '13 and '16 is Perkins = Holloway

 

[Shmuley]

Not a hater (although the damn yankeeness wears on my *** something fierce), but your assessment seems reasonable. I can live with waiting until next year, especially if he drops yet another egg bowl.

 

[engie]

Mullenz has never lost an Egg Bowl**

 

[57stratdawg]

We had more talent on the roster in 2013. Our signing class right now is a complete Hail Mary.

 

[missouridawg]

I think Dan is an excellent coach. But if he has no desire to improve obvious weaknesses, then I think I want someone else here. Looking directly at Hevesy and recruiting.

I'm of the opinion that an above average OL in 14 and 15 wouldve resulted in 2-3 more wins across those two seasons. And 2-3 more wins this season alone.

 

[NTDawg]

Dan has never been 3-9 so this season doesn't relate to any previous season

 

[philduckworth]

Do you remember Dak as a freshman/sophomore? Not much different than Fitz, and

I take huge issue with this statement. And you're not the only one who has made it.

 

[thatsbaseball]

What qualifies one as a hater versus one who doesn`t want to see their school get fleeced for millions of dollars by a guy who`s not dedicated to his job ?

 

[MaroonNation]

Dak was a 4th rounder because his offensive line was hot 17'ing garbage last year. Guess who's fault that is. Mullen's BFF.

 

[engie]

What qualifies one as a hater versus one who doesn`t want to see their school get fleeced for millions of dollars by a guy who`s not dedicated to his job ?

So how do you propose to avoid said fleecing?

 

[DancingRabbit]

So you're saying Dak can thank Hev for landing with the Cowboys?

Along with the Starkville PD too, of course.

Best NFL O-line, best RB, good receivers and a great OC.

Dak says thanks.

Dak was a 4th rounder because his offensive line was hot 17'ing garbage last year. Guess who's fault that is. Mullen's BFF.

 

[thatsbaseball]

You answer my question then I`ll answer yours.

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

I want him here next year if he wants to be here. 17, I want him hear next year as long as he just 17ing acts like he wants to be and makes some changes in the off season. I don't have to go into detail, everyone knows what the changes need to be. If your name surfaces for a job publicly come out and say I'm not interested, don't give these cute answers. Even if you're going to interview, just 17ing lie so you can save face with us in case you don't get it. I just want fat Dan Mullen back.

 

[bulldogbaja]

It's Hevesy or Mullen. THIS year. That simple.

 

[thatsbaseball]

You just spoke for the vast majority of us "Mullen haters"...Thank you

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

Supporter, not a hater. He definitely deserves a mulligan, but Mullen has to make some changes on his staff this offseason. He needs to either fire or re-assign some folks to other jobs. My big three are the usual suspects of OL, DB and Kicking game.

I also think he needs to swallow some pride and make someone else the play caller and take more of a CEO role than the current way he is running things. He needs to run things from and overhead view where he can actually see more of the way the game is moving. If you are trying to figure out plays to run while you are doing that, one or the other is going to suffer.

As far as recruiting goes, I think they need to take a new look at the type of linemen (both sides) they are targeting. Stars are great but we need linemen on both sides with a mean streak.

Also, we really, really, REALLY need to change the way we are teaching folks to tackle. Our tackling form across the board is really terrible. We need folks fearing our defense again. Even when we were ******, folks knew they were going to get hit hard.

Finally, we need to steadily improve as the season goes on. We need to play as many people as we can to see who are our best players for next season.

 

[Snog]

I take huge issue with this statement. And you're not the only one who has made it.

Agree.

 

[MaroonNation]

******** you must be tired jumping to all those conclusions.

 

[MaroonNation]

Ha you must not have heard our D.C. Tonight on the coaches call-in show (Mullen again a no show). Sermon (or however the hell you spell it) said that in this litigious age we live in coaches have to be very careful about how they coach tackling. They must avoid words or coaching that can be misinterpreted to suggest we try to destroy, blow-up, dominate,intimidate, impose our will on or any other term used to imply that our defense will attempt to interfere with an opponent's ability to score. I am not shitting you folks. Peter what's-his-face said this to Jim Ellis. He is a complete joke of an SEC D.C.

 

[tenureplan]

Anytime you speak, i'm just reminded of trade rape.


ETA: but I think you had a good **** story maybe...

 

[tenureplan]

put the stats up then...

Remember OKC? Dam. beat Ark...they're better. Dak came back and beat a pretty **** OM.

 

[tenureplan]

You always say the same thing better than me...

 

[tenureplan]

Well it appears recruiting is improving.

 

[thatsbaseball]

Ho-lee-**** !

 

[SouthFarmchicken]

What's interesting to me is that there is a consensus. Everyone agrees that Mullen must change by moving/dumping Hevesy, Sallach, and/or Gonzalez. As is, with the current staff, no one thinks this thing can be turned around. This is the takeaway for me.

I'd also be willing to bet that the majority of fans that are leaning towards wanting Mullen gone would be 1 million percent in support of keeping him if he got rid of some of his buddies on his offensive staff. Hell, I just want Hevesy gone.

If you read into things a little more, the majority of this board and state fans in general would be happy to see Sexton get Mullen another job.

 

[engie]

You answer my question then I`ll answer yours.

There isn't a question to answer. We owe him the exact same $$ if we fire him today or at the end of next year. Hence why it was a dubmass question that I knew you couldn't/wouldn't answer yourself.

 

[SouthFarmchicken]

It would explain the horrible tackling in the Pac 12 actually. Don't want to hurt feelings...

 

[thatsbaseball]

I asked you (or anyone) how do you all of a sudden become a "Mullen hater" because you have the opinion he`s not what`s best for your school at this time. You obviously don`t have an answer so you type type type in circles hoping if you type enough some of your dribble will make sense but you whiffed again.

 

[engie]

I asked you (or anyone) how do all of a sudden become a "Mullen hater" because you have the opinion he`s not what`s best for your school at this time. You obviously don`t have an answer so you type type type in circles hoping if you type enough some of your dribble will make sense but you whiffed again.

Ah -- so Cutcliffing him is "what's best for the school at this time". Just like FAHRing Cohenz last March!1!! You are becoming a full-time dubmass. Wanting to fire arguably the best coach we've had since Allyn McKeen in WW2 -- basically just because our kicker can't make field goals this year -- is dubmass.

 

[thatsbaseball]

Can you not answer this simple question ? Why does one feeling that Dan Mullen has burned out and is ready to leave State (but hasn`t been able to find a way out) qualify them as hating the man ? If he wants to be here I WANT HIM HERE. There, I typed slower maybe that will help.

 

[Hotdiggydawg]

Well it appears recruiting is improving.

I like your username but next year you may need to change it to tenyearplan.

 

[engie]

Can you not answer this simpe question ? Why does one feeling that Dan Mullen has burned out and is ready to leave State (but hasn`t been able to find a way out) qualify them as hating the man ? If he wants to be here I WANT HIM HERE. There, I typed slower maybe that will help.

I'm glad you typed it more slowly -- because now all of a sudden it's an entirely different statement than your position you've been pushing for the last two months. Mullen wanting out -- and you wanting him fired in every thread -- are two entirely different things. Now you don't want him fired? I'm struggling to keep up. Primarily because the goalposts are moving all over the place.

 

[fishwater99]

I think Dan is an excellent coach. But if he has no desire to improve obvious weaknesses, then I think I want someone else here. Looking directly at Hevesy and recruiting.

I'm of the opinion that an above average OL in 14 and 15 wouldve resulted in 2-3 more wins across those two seasons. And 2-3 more wins this season alone.

Just imagine we could have actually been in the 2014 playoff with a better OL, Dak made up for a lot of our problems there.

 

[tenureplan]

it already insinuates that, its a play on words. Like many of you think Dan has, I stayed in Starkville a little too long.

 

[HD6]

You could not have misrepresented his statement any more than you did. He's asked about are high schools doing a bad job of teaching tackling. Here's his quote....

"You know, I heard from a coach long time ago, if you want better tacklers, recruit better athletes, and that's not to be dismissive of it. The challenge is right now, in just teaching tackling, it's hard to tackle without the thing on top of our shoulders. You know, and there's so many, there's litigation right now, you have to be very mindful of the words that you use to instruct young men on how you tackle, you know, so I think what you're seeing is, some of the high schools shying away from exposing themselves to lawsuits, to litigation, to ultimate reponsibilty. I think you see some of that."

You just made up about half of your post. But for you, that's about par for the course.

 

[HD6]

Even if we though Hevesy and that group were doing a good job, after this kind of season, somebody somewhere on the staff has to go. You can't stand pat after a year like this.

 

[DerHntr]

You could not have misrepresented his statement any more than you did. He's asked about are high schools doing a bad job of teaching tackling. Here's his quote....

"You know, I heard from a coach long time ago, if you want better tacklers, recruit better athletes, and that's not to be dismissive of it. The challenge is right now, in just teaching tackling, it's hard to tackle without the thing on top of our shoulders. You know, and there's so many, there's litigation right now, you have to be very mindful of the words that you use to instruct young men on how you tackle, you know, so I think what you're seeing is, some of the high schools shying away from exposing themselves to lawsuits, to litigation, to ultimate reponsibilty. I think you see some of that."

You just made up about half of your post. But for you, that's about par for the course.

Classic case of hearing what you want to hear when someone is talking.

 

[PBRME]

Yep. Just looking for any reason at all to *****. We have enough to ***** about. Don't need people making up imaginary crap to ***** about.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

Par for the course for MaroonNation. Sirmon is dead on.

 

[MaroonNation]

I think I made a pretty good summary of the overall direction our defense will make according to his statements. and as others have said, it explains a lot.