Question for the left
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Bad timing for this year....Johnny Issacson(sp) retired due to cancer and Kemp put Loeffler into the seat.....so it was an automatic for first election......just so happens that Perdue term was up at the same time.....
Therefore, BOTH seats are on the ballot.....
One was a jungle election with top two going to run-off......Collins jumped in and battled Loeffler....
That doesn't say "fraud". That says that voters didn't like Trump but liked their locals. It happens.
Where are the votes being processed right now? Fulton county? That probably explains it. One question, why does Biden have so many more votes than the leading senator, like 70,000
The two runoffs will be
Perdue (R) vs Ossoff (D)
Loeffler (R) vs Warnock (D)
Warnock received a lot of votes.
State capital building in Fulton, yes, but don’t worry, under GOP control.....
Great question, the answer is, ALOT of people like me, voted to move Trump out but didn’t want to see the Senate flip.....
I will split the ballot in the January run-off....I will vote for Warnock vs Loeffler and for Perdue over Ossoff
The total votes for POTUS match closely with the Perdue Ossoff race - about 4.9 million total.
I haven’t checked that in awhile, if this is true and based on what is left, can Ossoff get to 50%....??
Appreciate the honesty and I agree, even if the roles were reversed. I have been ready for him to concede since yesterday, personally.
Not consistently. In most closely contested races, the down ballot candidates either survive or fail depending on how the top of the ticket performs. Once again, not one Republican incumbent lost their race...even in the battleground States where Trump lost massive leads, the down ballot Republican incumbent candidates did not lose their races.
Why not?
Trump enjoyed well over 90% support among GOP voters. He was a major reason why turnout among GOP voters was at record levels. However despite that fact, only Trump at the top of the ticket lost votes. On the Democrat side, Biden actually got more votes than his own down ballot running mates...suggesting Republicans were not voting for Trump at the top of their tickets, but instead were voting only for Biden for President.
I know you're on the Left and logic is something most of you can't follow, but surely that illustration of illogical behavior in a closely contested "turnout" election, designed to drive turnout among the most loyal party base voters makes no sense.
If you want to try and explain that away to yourself to masturbate your mental logic on this into some semblance of truthful reality that makes obvious fraud less obvious, then start stroking.
Crap, I had typed out Michigan but lost the post. It was Michigan where there's a 70,000 difference. Sorry
my post previously was about Michigan where there's a 70,000 difference between the winning senator and biden. Rea!ly doesn't seem likely
Trump broke open the dam between the GOP and minority voters. It will only continue once he exposes the stolen fraudulent Biden votes, and resumes a second term agenda for them of economic emancipation from the Democrat poverty plantation.
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Team Trump and Republicans nationwide made unprecedented inroads with black and Hispanic voters. Nationally, preliminary numbers indicated that 26 percent of Trump’s voting share came from nonwhite voters — the highest percentage for a GOP presidential candidate since 1960.
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Cuban-Americans have been loyal Republican voters since the 1980s and Ronald Reagan’s strong opposition to Fidel Castro. But they were particularly energized in 2020 to vote for Trump. Conversely, Mexican-Americans in Texas had probably never voted Republican before but were drawn to Trump’s “opportunity agenda.”
And surprisingly, young black men voted for Trump in unprecedented numbers. We won’t know the particulars of how that vote broke down for a few days, but ambitious young men who see a future in a capitalist America were no doubt repelled by the Democrats’ anti-capitalist agenda. They’re also tired of being used by Democrats as props in their little morality plays and are weary of unkept promises.
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Team Trump and Republicans nationwide made unprecedented inroads with black and Hispanic voters. Nationally, preliminary numbers indicated that 26 percent of Trump’s voting share came from nonwhite voters — the highest percentage for a GOP presidential candidate since 1960.
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Cuban-Americans have been loyal Republican voters since the 1980s and Ronald Reagan’s strong opposition to Fidel Castro. But they were particularly energized in 2020 to vote for Trump. Conversely, Mexican-Americans in Texas had probably never voted Republican before but were drawn to Trump’s “opportunity agenda.”
And surprisingly, young black men voted for Trump in unprecedented numbers. We won’t know the particulars of how that vote broke down for a few days, but ambitious young men who see a future in a capitalist America were no doubt repelled by the Democrats’ anti-capitalist agenda. They’re also tired of being used by Democrats as props in their little morality plays and are weary of unkept promises.
Conservatives split their vote in one of those races. In a runoff...head-to-head....the Democrat candidates won't get 45% of the statewide vote. Remember Trump was well ahead along with Perdue until the vote count was suspended due to a "water pipe break" [eyeroll]
When the water pipe was repaired, and the newly found votes started pouring in, Trump lost his lead, & Purdue lost his non runoff lead (since his seat may determine the makeup of the Senate)
However in a head-to-head race, the Conservative vote won't be split. It'll be Perdue/Loeffler on one ballot, and Ossoff/Warnock on the other side. Georgia is a Red State, the Democrats will go down in flames.
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I’m the kind of a guy who comes to a full stop at a stop sign at 3:00 AM, even with no traffic in sight.
I don’t have a problem with Trump holding off conceding until the last lawsuit is resolved.
I’m not really left, I’m more middle. Pro-abortion, pro capital punishment, pro balanced budget, pro enforcement of immigration laws.
In many of those races there were significantly more votes on the president line than on the down ballot.This shows how stupid and ridiculous you people are.....using Trumps own words this evening, what you are suggesting is, at the same time that the evil Dems. created enough fraud to beat Trump, but at the same exact time, in the same exact election, did well enough to HOLD the Senate and, per Trumps OWN words, do well and even PICK UP seats in the House......
Are you fukking kidding me.......
Four years ago, HRC did the right thing for America and conceded.....in 2000 Gore did what was right for America....
Only Trump and his MAGA would attempt to burn down our democracy......traitors!
This! We will have proof of this as soon as the lawsuits are heard and evidence is presented to challenge these fraudulent results.
FRAUD ALERT
This guy is a fraud and liar!! GA is a GOP controlled state with the Governor and SOS.......
STOP trying to undermine our democracy with these used car salesman lies and falsehoods!!!
Dave, how can you know this?? Have you seen the actual ballot breakdown somewhere?? If so, please share it so some of us can also review it.....thanks.
Yes. I have seen several examples. You just need to look at the counted results. In one instance Biden had about 277k votes and Trump 257k and the House race below it the republican had 255k and the democrat had around 150k votes.
The figures I saw were from a media site linked to the states figures. When I find it I will link it to this thread.
...more proof
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In most elections, the majority of votes are cast “down the ticket” – meaning, a voter supports both party’s presidential nominee and state Congressional candidates. In fact, according to Pew Research, “overwhelming shares of voters who are supporting Trump and Biden say they are also supporting the same-party candidate for Senate.”
Typically, this means that that the number of votes for a presidential candidate and that party’s Senate candidates are relatively close.
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Twitter user “US Rebel” (@USRebellion1776), however, found that the number of votes cast for Joe Biden far exceeds those cast for that state’s Senate candidates in swing states, while those cast for Trump and GOP Senators remains far closer.
In Michigan, for example, there was a difference of just 7,131 votes between Trump and GOP candidate John James, yet the difference between Joe Biden and Democratic candidate Gary Peters was a staggering 69,093.
In Georgia, there was an 818 vote difference between Trump and the GOP Senator, vs. a 95,000 difference between Biden and the Democratic candidate for Senator.
....finally
Yet, in two non-swing states, there was “no massive flood of mysterious empty Biden votes,” leading US Rebel to suggest “It’s fraud.”
In Wyoming, the difference on the Democratic side is is just 725 votes, while in Montana the difference is 27,457.
I actually did this with some state/local where I didn’t want to vote for the GOP but there was no Dem. but they don’t let you leave it blank so you have to write someone in.....which I did....
Here 'ya go Dave...a breakdown of the current Georgia State Legislature
Here's a race-by-race breakdown of the GA State Senate races (GOP won 80% of the races)
Here's the State House races (again Republicans dominate more than 2-to-1)
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This supports the point I made earlier in the thread about down ballot races. Base voters in a "turnout" election don't typically ignore the top of the ticket, then vote for the rest of the down ballot candidates. Not typically. Usually the top of the ticket drives support down ballot.
In fact we see this in the Republican pickups for Congressional seats, while in those same races Trump lost votes. The Left cannot explain that, but they are mad about the GOP gains in the House. For their part, Republicans in the House are giving the President credit for their pickups, yet he can't hold those same voters against Joe Biden?
The Presidential returns where down ballot Republicans gained votes while only the President lost votes suggests an aberration to regular voting patterns that at least needs closer scrutiny.
Thanks for posting Dave.
No Republican incumbents in Congress lost. None. (Martha McSally wasn't an "incumbent" she was running as a permanent replacement) Still no Senate or House Republican incumbents lost and in the House, Republicans actually gained more seats! Yet, at the top of the ticket with record GOP turnout driven by the President--only he lost votes?
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More illogical logic for the Left to consider....
In down ballot races where Democrat challengers lost to Republican incumbents, Joe Biden's votes over Trump did not carry those races.
Why not?
So Democrat voters in a record turnout election chose to vote for the top of their ticket, yet those same voters could not help the challengers down ballot in their own party against the GOP's incumbents?
Why were the additional votes for Biden over Trump not transferred to the down ballot challengers on the Democrat ticket? Where were Biden's "coattails"? One would have to conclude that those Democrat base voters wanted to send Joe Biden to the White House, but NOT the Congressional support he'll need to undue Trump's agenda?
What happened to those Democrat votes for Joe Biden down ballot? Republican incumbents didn't lose any races, and the GOP actually gained seats against House Democrats. Why didn't Biden's record votes overcoming Trump in swing States translate to his down ballot candidates?
No one on the Left can answer this, but that question deserves a logical answer that doesn't suggest massive fraudulent votes at the top of the ticket.
In down ballot races where Democrat challengers lost to Republican incumbents, Joe Biden's votes over Trump did not carry those races.
Why not?
So Democrat voters in a record turnout election chose to vote for the top of their ticket, yet those same voters could not help the challengers down ballot in their own party against the GOP's incumbents?
Why were the additional votes for Biden over Trump not transferred to the down ballot challengers on the Democrat ticket? Where were Biden's "coattails"? One would have to conclude that those Democrat base voters wanted to send Joe Biden to the White House, but NOT the Congressional support he'll need to undue Trump's agenda?
What happened to those Democrat votes for Joe Biden down ballot? Republican incumbents didn't lose any races, and the GOP actually gained seats against House Democrats. Why didn't Biden's record votes overcoming Trump in swing States translate to his down ballot candidates?
No one on the Left can answer this, but that question deserves a logical answer that doesn't suggest massive fraudulent votes at the top of the ticket.
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