Quentin grimes
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Grimes joins the collection of elite freshmen who attended Kansas only to end up on the "meh" list of meeting expectations.
The FBI watched the whole cheating team attempt to play.
So...not Grimes then. Think he shot like 60% from the the ft line. Not sure how a guard is that bad at the line.
I liked Grimes 2 years ago. Can't speak to why it didn't work out at Kansas because I don't follow them that closely but things happen, maybe didn't take the coaching style and Bill Self's resume speaks for itself. Sometimes things don't work out. Was impressed with how he adjusted on the fly last year with injury and suspension. A lot of weird things going on (Vick leaving/then returning..) lately and sometimes you just hit re-set. Coaches/players and clear the deck.
Not sure if UK would have any interest this go around, but wouldn't be surprised if they at least checked on him, especially with all the success they've had with players from Texas.
Not sure if UK would have any interest this go around, but wouldn't be surprised if they at least checked on him, especially with all the success they've had with players from Texas.
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You guys should invest in a S&C coach. It isn't new!
They have one. She is a woman. They did a thing on espn about her once.
Nothing classless about waving goodbye to a player with a poor attitude and work ethic.
Btw, you’ll only get him if you make him the primary ball handler. Good luck with that.[laughing]
Thought this was a joke at first. Why couldn't she get 20 lbs off Grimes?
Weight is primarily about food consumption. What can she do if he’s eating McDonald’s every night?
She’s considered one of the best.
Haha that I don’t know! I just wanted to share that with you lol. She sits at the end of the benches. She looks mean as hell though. So maybe Grimes couldn’t take the fierceness. I’m pretty sure she won an award also. BTW Grimes should have came here but whatever.
Was the story on espn about embidd? Maybe I’m wrong but how she transformed his body. I thought it was that year.
Rick Pitino with all his faults got his players in tip top shape. 1 Center, came in over 300 lbs, went on to a career in the NBA. Hell he had his staff, managers etc in shape. If S&C coach does not get players bigger, stronger and excess fat off them they are not doing their job
I’ll take Alex “same player after 4 years” Poythress and Skal for 500, Trebeck.
Two guys? One of which is still making millions in the NBA?
Should we go through all of Kansas'/self's flunkies?
Orton, Richards, Montgomery, Quickley, Diallo, Vanderbilt, Killeya Jones...shall I go on?
So one guy who played 2 years in the NBA , 2 guys still in a college 2 more guys making a million in the NBA and both who played on playoff teams and were on playoff rosters and flunky in SKJ? Really bad examples there dude as that literally is either guys still in college or guys who got paid or are getting paid . Well and SKJ but that is on him he flunked out of NC st too . Really good think before you post. UK for the most doesn't have bad examples as even the least get NBA time . And most of the players who play in the NBA just do that. Play 2-3 seasons and then out of the league. If you can do that and aren't a John Wall , AD ect you had a successful career and made some millions . The Wall's , Zion's ect of the world should do better sure but the average top 30 recruit is going to end up like that . UK just has way more because we sign way more .
The original post the KU troll was responding to was about meeting expectations as a freshman. I don't think he is wrong about our players, but of course we are going to have a lot of guys that don't meet expectations just due to sheer numbers. We also have a strong group of players that meet and exceed expectations. That is something that Kansas has lacked when it comes to freshmen.
Going back through the roster, I'd say the five-star freshmen that met or exceeded expectations at KU are Dotson, Josh Jackson, Joel Embiid, Andrew Wiggins, and Xavier Henry...maybe Wayne Seldon and Kelly Oubre.
The players that didn't meet expectations are Elijah Johnson, Thomas Robinson (did develop), Josh Selby, Brannen Greene, Cliff Alexander, Check Diallo, Carlton Bragg, Udoka Azubuike (did develop), Quentin Grimes, David McCormack. It's not an alarming list in all seriousness.
I would've never included Poythress, who was still good his freshman year, or Skal/Orton, both of whom got drafted after one year as UK's examples.
Going back through the roster, I'd say the five-star freshmen that met or exceeded expectations at KU are Dotson, Josh Jackson, Joel Embiid, Andrew Wiggins, and Xavier Henry...maybe Wayne Seldon and Kelly Oubre.
The players that didn't meet expectations are Elijah Johnson, Thomas Robinson (did develop), Josh Selby, Brannen Greene, Cliff Alexander, Check Diallo, Carlton Bragg, Udoka Azubuike (did develop), Quentin Grimes, David McCormack. It's not an alarming list in all seriousness.
I would've never included Poythress, who was still good his freshman year, or Skal/Orton, both of whom got drafted after one year as UK's examples.
So after years of spinning dozens of off-court issues as nbd, these same Baghdad Bobs are trashing Grimes and saying they are glad he is gone for merely being the latest McDAA to underperform there. Good stuff.
LOL.. go on to where? Monk, Wall, Bledsoe, Booker, Lyles, KAT, AD, MKG, Fox, SGA, Jones, Ulis, Bam, WCS, Knox, Herro, KJ, PJ...
All those guys have either: gotten serious money from the NBA, or played well above their ranking (thanks to Calipari) to get some sort of professional career they otherwise wouldn't have.
Orton - Not Cal's recruit
Quickley SKJ Vanderbilt - Non top 10 recruits, one not even done yet, and one transfer.
Hami - 1.5 year recruit, who came in a half season early to practice.. currently getting millions from the NBA.
Your best argument to use here is probably Richards, Johnson, Montgomery.. maybe Wenyen?
Xavier Henry isn't one I'd hang my hat on.
top5 recruit, drafted 12th, out of the league in 5 years.
Compared to MKG
Top5 recruit, drafted 2nd, still in the league and will wind up making over $100,000,000 ... all without a J. Just hard worker. Cal normally doesn't get less.
Let him go elsewhere. We're good at the point. No telling what kind of baggage he might bring.I like our chemistry in the backcourt now.
For reference of top 5ish recruits at Kentucky vs Kansas:
Good: Wall, KAT, Fox, AD, Randle, Noel, Knight, Cousins, Skal (similar to Diallo below)
Bad: Twins, Teague
Good: Wiggins, Chiek Diallo (this is an iffy one, 2nd round pick, probably out of the league soon, but I'll give him to you).
Bad: Alexander, Henry, Selby
That's a YUGE discrepancy, no denying that. The question is "Why?". Is Self a poor developer of talent? Or just a bad eye for talent/character?
Good: Wall, KAT, Fox, AD, Randle, Noel, Knight, Cousins, Skal (similar to Diallo below)
Bad: Twins, Teague
Good: Wiggins, Chiek Diallo (this is an iffy one, 2nd round pick, probably out of the league soon, but I'll give him to you).
Bad: Alexander, Henry, Selby
That's a YUGE discrepancy, no denying that. The question is "Why?". Is Self a poor developer of talent? Or just a bad eye for talent/character?
Lmao thank you for proving that Self can’t develop one and done talent. So a freshman pg struggled at the beginning of the season? Wow big shock there! Maybe if Self actually recruited them laid out a plan for there development told them being in shape is the key to the next level! Wait tho don’t you guys have some miracle working trainer or something some woman trainer that all the players adore and she gets them on tremendous shape?
Your two "bad" examples of UK players were our biggest winners among the group while in college as well. Haha.
Ha, I know. Another angle of those top 5 talents.. Which have met/exceeded expectations? KAT, AD, Fox.. All Kentucky.
Not a single top5 recruit for Kansas have lived up to expectations. No, not even Wiggins, who in many eyes, has fallen short of what he could have been (If we DID add Wiggins, I'd counter with adding Wall, Cousins).
100M? He’s at 46M, and he’s about to leave the league. Even if he sticks on the end of a bench, he ain’t getting 54 more.
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