Quade Green...

[ConRay9]

Tough night shooting the ball. Despite this, he had 5 assists and 1 turnover, had the second most minutes on the team, and had the HIGHEST +/- on the team. He looked to be in control and made some really great decisions with the ball. A second year point guard is rare for Cal, and shouldn't be taken lightly.

The KSR postgame show, and many people on twitter and elsewhere, have penciled in Herro over him. Yet when Quade has the ball I feel more confident than any other player that the right decision will be made. The dude is sometimes a sniper with his passes and is always in control. He will also be one of our best shooters. Don't sleep on him.

Interested to hear this board's thoughts.

 

[bigc45157]

Herro is going to be dynamic offensively and will provide great energy. There will be a handful of games where Quade’s experience will come in handy. I have no doubt that QG will be a quality contributor, whether he starts or not.

It’s VERY early.

 

[megablue]

Quade will have a great year, I think.

 

[ConRay9]

Herro is going to be dynamic offensively and will provide great energy. There will be a handful of games where Quade’s experience will come in handy. I have no doubt that QG will be a quality contributor, whether he starts or not.

It’s VERY early.

Agreed. I really hope people don't sleep on Quade. I know 'new' will always be more intriguing but I'm really excited for QG's sophomore campaign. He's got an eye for the game.

 

[anon_9qtxg60vqzy0y]

Quade’s minutes will dwindle as the season progresses. Quickly and Hagans have far better upsides. Just my opinion.

 

[ConRay9]

Quade’s minutes will dwindle as the season progresses. Quickly and Hagans have far better upsides. Just my opinion.

That may be true. He is by far the most in control with the ball as of now though. He's probably the best shooter of those three as well. It's hard to say.

 

[richbrookstomato]

For our team to reach it maximum potential, Quade must make open shots. I realize it’s one game, but we really need him to score from the perimeter to open up the floor.

 

[Wildcats1st]

We need quade to be a leader but we need him to stay out of his own mind. He needs to not talk smack about opponents and carry himself instead with inner arrogance

 

[wcc31]

He’ll be our best offensive guard, IMO.

 

[richbrookstomato]

I’ll just add what Cal always says about shooting, you can miss shots, just not ALL of them!!!:flushed:[winking]

 

[Rideordiewildcat]

For our team to reach it maximum potential, Quade must make open shots. I realize it’s one game, but we really need him to score from the perimeter to open up the floor.

Agree, his shot selection to close out last year was often bad. This game seemed right on track with how he finished last year. Hoping it's nothing, he did have 5 dimes, but some really questionable shots. Be nice to see him bounce back tomorrow night with a solid game with how he ended last season and tonight. Hagans, Herro and Quickly are going to demand mins with their play.

 

[ConRay9]

Agree, his shot selection to close out last year was often bad. This game seemed right on track with how he finished last year. Hoping it's nothing, he did have 5 dimes, but some really questionable shots. Be nice to see him bounce back tomorrow night with a solid game with how he ended last season and tonight. Hagans, Herro and Quickly are going to demand mins with their play.

I don't disagree with much of your comment. The one thing I will say is that he can catch fire sometimes. There was a game early in the year last year where we went down by 10 against a scrub team. He was the main weapon on offense in that game and finished the game with 21 points or so.

He's the throwback prototypical point guard of years past (Pre one-and-done) and there can still be a lot of value in that.

 

[Rideordiewildcat]

I don't disagree with much of your comment. The one thing I will say is that he can catch fire sometimes. There was a game early in the year last year where we went down by 10 against a scrub team. He was the main weapon on offense in that game and finished the game with 21 points or so.

He's the throwback prototypical point guard of years past (Pre one-and-done) and there can still be a lot of value in that.

Oh I agree, he looked great at times, but he ended the season poorly. He was a no show in the SEC tourney and it continued through the last second 3pt air ball to end the season. I am all for him getting his minutes, he just has to show better shot selection. Against a top opponent 1-11 could really hurt us. Especially in crucial parts of the game. I think he will bounce back I just hope he looks to pass more when it is such a difficult shot.

 

[BBNinSCar]

His form on the missed three-pointers looked good, the rims seemed tight.

 

[ConRay9]

Oh I agree, he looked great at times, but he ended the season poorly. He was a no show in the SEC tourney and it continued through the last second 3pt air ball to end the season. I am all for him getting his minutes, he just has to show better shot selection. Against a top opponent 1-11 could really hurt us. Especially in crucial parts of the game. I think he will bounce back I just hope he looks to pass more when it is such a difficult shot.

For sure! Shot selection is extremely important when we have this talented of a team. Last year it was more of a hodge podge of whoever was hot. I think Quade will adjust accordingly.

 

[UKCAT5FAN]

Tough night shooting the ball. Despite this, he had 5 assists and 1 turnover, had the second most minutes on the team, and had the HIGHEST +/- on the team. He looked to be in control and made some really great decisions with the ball. A second year point guard is rare for Cal, and shouldn't be taken lightly.

The KSR postgame show, and many people on twitter and elsewhere, have penciled in Herro over him. Yet when Quade has the ball I feel more confident than any other player that the right decision will be made. The dude is sometimes a sniper with his passes and is always in control. He will also be one of our best shooters. Don't sleep on him.

Interested to hear this board's thoughts.

It's going to be really hard to keep Tyler off the floor, especially as the season goes on. That kids has got it. I hope Quade plays alot and I think he will but he just can't give you everything you need.

 

[ConRay9]

It's going to be really hard to keep Tyler off the floor, especially as the season goes on. That kids has got it. I hope Quade plays alot and I think he will but he just can't give you everything you need.

I just wonder who is really the more talented offensive player. On defense they both have much to prove, but Quade has an entire season of shooting while Herro has one game. Should be an interesting development nonetheless.

 

[BBallin23]

Quade’s minutes will dwindle as the season progresses. Quickly and Hagans have far better upsides. Just my opinion.

No

 

[UKCAT5FAN]

I just wonder who is really the more talented offensive player. On defense they both have much to prove, but Quade has an entire season of shooting while Herro has one game. Should be an interesting development nonetheless.

Yeah, Tyler struggled from behind the arc. I'm talking intangibles primarily. Tyler height and quickness are huge pluses in that category. His midrange game and his ability to get in the paint are what ultimately gives him the nod, IMO. Not even talking about 3 point shooting yet. Hopefully Quade can get his shot off quicker this year. Tyler has a quick shot and can shoot over more people. I just think Tyler eventually wins it because of those reasons. I could always be wrong.

 

[ConRay9]

Yeah, Tyler struggled from behind the arc. I'm talking intangibles primarily. Tyler height and quickness are huge pluses in that category. His midrange game and his ability to get in the paint are what ultimately gives him the nod, IMO. Not even talking about 3 point shooting yet. Hopefully Quade can get his shot off quicker this year. Tyler has a quick shot and can shoot over more people. I just think Tyler eventually wins it because of those reasons. I could always be wrong.

You may be right. I think you can't just disregard passing though. As of right now Green is the best passer on the team. He's the smoothest with the ball. He makes the right decision most of the time. Those things are invaluable and don't always show up on a stat sheet.

 

[3kidsandme]

I just wonder who is really the more talented offensive player. On defense they both have much to prove, but Quade has an entire season of shooting while Herro has one game. Should be an interesting development nonetheless.

Thing is Herro shot the 3 bad and still showed out. He hit 44 percent from 3 taking horrible shots. He's a natural scorer period

 

[ConRay9]

Thing is Herro shot the 3 bad and still showed out. He hit 44 percent from 3 taking horrible shots. He's a natural scorer period

That very well may be true but it's still just one game. Herro doesn't have the passing ability or decision making that Quade has. It's not all about scoring.

 

[Cats192]

He's got to make shots, plain and simple. He's not super big, strong, fast, athletic, etc.

That said, I think his shot will take a big step forward this year. If he makes 3 more shots, he's 4/11 and sitting there with what, 8 points, 5 assists, 1 turnover? He's going to have to show it moving forward though, or he'll be sitting behind Herro.

 

[Blue Bigfoot]

Herro seems like more of a 2 guard to me, so not quite sure why we are comparing him with a point guard. Was he recruited as a point guard?

 

[Primedfor9]

Spot on. Green shot 37 percent from 3 last year and has always been known as a good shooter, he won't have many nights where he shoots like tonight.

 

[Cats192]

Herro seems like more of a 2 guard to me, so not quite sure why we are comparing him with a point guard. Was he recruited as a point guard?

I think most people think the start guards will be some combination of Quade/Hagans/Herro. Quickley being the dark horse. Since the roster has been finalized, most people thought it would be Hagans, Quade to start the year. If he keeps struggling, and Herro keeps showing out, maybe we'll all be fooled.

 

[ConRay9]

Herro seems like more of a 2 guard to me, so not quite sure why we are comparing him with a point guard. Was he recruited as a point guard?

That is completely beside the point. The prevailing notion so far has been that Hagans would be the starting point guard, with Quade as the shooting guard. This means that Herro and Quade would be directly competing for playing time. After tonight, many have been quick to crown Herro as the starting SG. My point is, that despite one good game, don't disregard Quade.

 

[UKCAT5FAN]

You may be right. I think you can't just disregard passing though. As of right now Green is the best passer on the team. He's the smoothest with the ball. He makes the right decision most of the time. Those things are invaluable and don't always show up on a stat sheet.

Oh, I agree. I'm not saying Quade isn't good, just that I think through the season, Tyler will be able to give us more on both ends. Especially if Hagans is legit, causs its going to open up for Tyler more. Did you see what happened when Tyler and Ashton we in the backcourt? I really liked that duo. Dont get me wrong, love Quade and hope he has an amazing year. Im just talking aboout winning the position midway through the year. He may even take it early.

 

[kevcat]

Herro is going to be dynamic offensively and will provide great energy. There will be a handful of games where Quade’s experience will come in handy. I have no doubt that QG will be a quality contributor, whether he starts or not.

It’s VERY early.

Uh, Herro also looked good defensively most of the time tonight. No one will say that of course.

Look, a couple of guys looked a little nervous, but other than that, it was a really solid effort.

 

[DanHalen88]

Agree, his shot selection to close out last year was often bad. This game seemed right on track with how he finished last year. Hoping it's nothing, he did have 5 dimes, but some really questionable shots. Be nice to see him bounce back tomorrow night with a solid game with how he ended last season and tonight. Hagans, Herro and Quickly are going to demand mins with their play.

I don't disagree with much of your comment. The one thing I will say is that he can catch fire sometimes. There was a game early in the year last year where we went down by 10 against a scrub team. He was the main weapon on offense in that game and finished the game with 21 points or so.

He's the throwback prototypical point guard of years past (Pre one-and-done) and there can still be a lot of value in that.

Agree, he is an old school throwback pg. also think he will be leader of this team. Love seeing him dish out 5 tonight with only 2 turnover! Nobody shot well tonight except Richards. This team just oozes upside potential!!!

 

[UKWildcats#8]

Green will have to shoot well to keep getting minutes as the season progresses.

The frosh are all probably more talented and that showed already tonight. That said, if UK is going to have any shot at ever winning #9 this year...Green has to be a key member of the rotation and a leader.

 

[anon_9qtxg60vqzy0y]

No

Quade is a good basketball player who has limitations. Size, athleticism and quickness being the three biggest. Quickly and Hagans are much more athletic, bigger and stronger guards.

 

[anon_9qtxg60vqzy0y]

That may be true. He is by far the most in control with the ball as of now though. He's probably the best shooter of those three as well. It's hard to say.

As of now being he key words. As I stated, the other two will gain experience and will garner more playing time as the season progresses.

 

[ConRay9]

As of now being he key words. As I stated, the other two will gain experience and will garner more playing time as the season progresses.

Even last year he maintained pretty good ball control. I don't think Herro will even sniff the same passing ability. Hagans might, but when you have a team this good passing is a huge commodity.

 

[revcort]

Yeah, it's too soon to tell, but I would say Green's experience is get him minutes this season. Herro is very intriguing though and will get his share of minutes. You gotta make shots and he has that ability from anywhere on the floor.

 

[3kidsandme]

That very well may be true but it's still just one game. Herro doesn't have the passing ability or decision making that Quade has. It's not all about scoring.

Herro better passer than you think. Green will be really good though I wasn't really knocking him

 

[king of cali]

He’ll be our best offensive guard, IMO.

UK is in trouble if that is the case.

 

[K_TIME]

The thing that jumps out to me for Quade is can he create his own shot at times...and his height and lack of elite athleticism sort of catches up to him. I'm looking for him to hit that pull up off the dribble/step back...if he can hit that shot great. If not, bigger/more athletic guys like Hagans/Quickley will be hard to keep off the floor.

 

[anon_9qtxg60vqzy0y]

Quade’s minutes will dwindle as the season progresses. Quickly and Hagans have far better upsides. Just my opinion.

No

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