QB decision

[RUich]

Considering our situation, I really think that we could/should see just about all of them in the first game with Texas State. This is based on believing we should not have too much difficulty in winning this game. If so, we get to see everybody in a real game situation which is a good thing. If our second game was Washington, I would be more involved in getting more reps for our #1. But since it is OSU, it really doesn't make all that much sense to work on reps when it really isn't going to make much of a difference. In fact, if the OSU game gets out of control, I would bring in a lot of backup to try and get some more reps for all of them and reduce the injury situation. Let's face it, we are not going to win game two.
We need to be ready for the next 3 games (Washington,Buffalo and Indiana) which I think are all in the possible win column. Any hopes of a bowl game will be determined in the first half of the season.

 

[RUTrack94]

If you read my threads, think Gio should start with Art getting some PT ... when Gio gets hurt and can’t run, pass the torch. Gio had a spark until he got hurt last 2 years. Once hurt and he couldn’t run, offense had no pop.

 

[read option]

You know that you aren’t winning 6 with Gio, so I’d go with Art. Art is the future and has the upside. This is a 4-win max team regardless of who the QB is. Put the future in now so he gets the action which prepares him for years 2, 3, and 4.

 

[DJ Spanky]

#FreeNittolo

 

[IMARUFAN]

Art is a true freshman. If he is named the starter, I think he should play every single down of the Texas State game because the more he plays, the more he see's how defenses react to various plays, the more chances he has to improve his timing with the receivers, the better he'll get as the season progresses.

 

[RUdude]

play your best qb.

 

[TommyGunn_rivals157283]

I’m with Ruich. Seems to me like starting Gio is the right move, and give Art a few series a game to get his feet wet. I haven’t read anything to believe that Art is head and shoulders above Gio at this point. Gotta think the experience gives him the edge. Can’t risk losing that first game.

 

[Knight Shift]

You know that you aren’t winning 6 with Gio, so I’d go with Art. Art is the future and has the upside. This is a 4-win max team regardless of who the QB is. Put the future in now so he gets the action which prepares him for years 2, 3, and 4.

"You know this" how?

 

[RUbacker]

If you read my threads, think Gio should start with Art getting some PT ... when Gio gets hurt and can’t run, pass the torch. Gio had a spark until he got hurt last 2 years. Once hurt and he couldn’t run, offense had no pop.

Gio will win you 6. Art may not get us there this year. So that goes into too.

 

[Knight Shift]

It appears that Sitkowski is the media and fan favorite to take over. Whatever happens, hope that our fans are not classless jerks and boo whenever Sitkowski is taken out of the game for Gio or Lewis.

 

[cig04]

Play both in the first game and then make the final decision after

 

[RUBigFrank]

My thought and stated previously - start Gio first two games . Play all three QBs and ease Art in and start ART game three.

 

[Rutgers1976]

Texas State is designed to get all three a reasonable amount of playing time. I could care less who takes the first snap, but if Gio is one of the co-captains, it makes sense that he's the one for this game. I'd guess he'd start as well in Columbus in that particular environment. After that, it's a matter of who earns it. I'm glad the 3rd game is at Kansas, not Washington ;-)

 

[RUdude]

I wouldn't use texas st as a litmus test for any QB.. I do recall Rettig looked like an All American in this powder puff game when he played a half, enough said..

 

[REDRICH65]

Agreed. Since Ash is so late in announcing, I think they will share duties against Tex.St. with captain Gio starting, Art and Lewis coming in with a 17pt. lead. Gio to start at OSU.

 

[RUChoppin]

Do we have an announcement time?

Are we sure the choice didn't try to use a fake ID at a bar last night to celebrate?

 

[RUforJERSEY]

It appears that Sitkowski is the media and fan favorite to take over. Whatever happens, hope that our fans are not classless jerks and boo whenever Sitkowski is taken out of the game for Gio or Lewis.

Every year there's been at least one golden boy. From Mike McMahon and Dom Natale to Savage, Rettig and now Sitkowski.

 

[Knight Shift]

Every year there's been at least one golden boy. From Mike McMahon and Dom Natale to Savage, Rettig and now Sitkowski.

True. But there is absolutely no reason to boo when a QB is taken out and a new QB is inserted. There could be a multitude of reasons why the QB is being substituted:injury, specific play or package, performance or something else. Booing is childish and classless.

 

[RUbacker]

It appears that Sitkowski is the media and fan favorite to take over. Whatever happens, hope that our fans are not classless jerks and boo whenever Sitkowski is taken out of the game for Gio or Lewis.

Unfortunately I think the jerks will be coming out and acting like their usual ignorant and classless way. I guess every fan base has them. Just watch som3 of the posts about to come out. There Will be no surprise who they are . You can actually name them now probably.

 

[Extra Point_rivals157299]

Texas State isn't exactly a push over. I think choose the starting QB and stick with him for the entire game, unless he really struggles. Then the unit will gel a little bit more for the next game. Gio now has a ton of experience and probably will have improved lot. If he is the best, he gets the job.

 

[RUScrew85]

Didn't we just do this thread?

 

[Shelby65]

Bad form to start Gio for three games and bench for Art in game 4. What if Gio's playing well ?

Whoever starts game 1 is the starter until poor play necessitates change.

 

[brucelaw8]

Bad form to start Gio for three games and bench for Art in game 4. What if Gio's playing well ?

Whoever starts game 1 is the starter until poor play necessitates change.

There seems to be alot of projection with this likely insignificant and non existent booing issue.The fan base will be patient with Art.The hard line Gio advocates on this board,maybe not so much.

 

[RUHouston]

Let's face it, we are not going to win game two.

We're not going to win game two?!? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

Seriously, why would that be, no wait, why should that be the attitude? Why not forfeit the game and keep everyone healthy? Hey, let's do that for Michigan, Michigan State, Wisconsin and Penn State! YEAH! Let's keep everyone healthy!

Realistically we may not win, sure, but upsets do happen. Rutgers has done it before.

In the past the talent gap was huge but today the gap is closing. We may not go 4-5 deep like Ohio State but we can't be that bad.

Hopefully one day our best will be good enough to beat the best. It's a process. We just need to go 1-0 that week....and not get dinged up.....

 

[cubuffsdoug_rivals]

You know that you aren’t winning 6 with Gio, so I’d go with Art. Art is the future and has the upside. This is a 4-win max team regardless of who the QB is. Put the future in now so he gets the action which prepares him for years 2, 3, and 4.

You just lost half the team (upperclassmen) because you gave up on the season. How do you keep the team happy?

 

[RUBigFrank]

We have educated fan compatriots on this board that measure events extremely as all-time best or worst as 0's or 10's on a ten scale.

 

[scarletrat]

Now look, I want the best guy starting who gives us the best chance to win.

And look, Gio can improve. But, as I am getting excited for the season, I've been watching a number of highlights from last season--mostly the Big 10 wins--on YouTube. And, this time around, it is painfully clear that Gio has a lot of difficulty throwing and hitting receivers, and has jittery feet in teh pocket. And yes, I get our WRs were beyond green last season and not ready, etc, but he missed some throws that cannot be done, and 3rd down he was very ineffective. And yes, very vanilla playcalling contributed to it (never fan of Kill). But I still side with the idea that unless Gio is heads and shoulders better, put Artur in if his ceiling is th ought to be higher...let him play through it.

 

[Scarlet_Scourge]

It's Art!

 

[Scarlet Blind_rivals]

I'd rather have Sit or Lewis as starter than Gio. I don't like a QB that has had 5 OCs in 5 years, I think that is a hurt more than a help to a QB.

 

[RUChoppin]

Question now is how much, if any, we see a "JLew Package".... it was McNulty that gave us the "Jabu Package" in 2007, after all.

 

[MadRU]

It’s Artur

 

[read option]

"You know this" how?

Because he hasn’t done anything with the opportunities he has had, and we have 5 automatic losses on our schedule. In addition to those 5 games, do you think Gio is winning vs. NW, @md, etc? I don’t.

 

[read option]

You just lost half the team (upperclassmen) because you gave up on the season. How do you keep the team happy?

If those upperclassmen don’t realize that Art needs to play for the good of the program both short and long term then they aren’t leaders. This team wins 4 games with either QB starting, so you start the QB with a future.

 

[RUChoppin]

You just lost half the team (upperclassmen) because you gave up on the season. How do you keep the team happy?

This assumes that the team feels that Gio's the better QB, and that Art's only in because of his future upside. If the team feels that Art's the better choice anyway, this would be moot.

 

[cubuffsdoug_rivals]

This assumes that the team feels that Gio's the better QB, and that Art's only in because of his future upside. If the team feels that Art's the better choice anyway, this would be moot.

I only asked the question because he assumed Art would get Rutgers to 6 wins just because he has potential. I'm not saying it's impossible, but Art has yet to take an in-game snap. There will be a lot of weight on the shoulders of Art, and the minute he cracks, people are going to call for his head. I don't want to see a repeat of what happened to Savage. Personally, I think there should be a mix of old and new until someone pulls away by displaying his ability in a meaningful game.

 

[RUChoppin]

I only asked the question because he assumed Art would get Rutgers to 6 wins just because he has potential. I'm not saying it's impossible, but Art has yet to take an in-game snap. There will be a lot of weight on the shoulders of Art, and the minute he cracks, people are going to call for his head. I don't want to see a repeat of what happened to Savage. Personally, I think there should be a mix of old and new until someone pulls away by displaying his ability in a meaningful game.

Savage was a bit of a different situation.

For one, he didn't win the job out of camp - Natale did. They turned to Savage after Natale fell apart in the first game.

Savage also had few receivers to throw to, primarily using undersized Brown and true frosh and converted safety Sanu, who was also taking snaps in the Wild Knight. Hopefully our stable of WRs have a few targets that emerge - though it's also a youth movement, there.

The OLine also went from giving up 19 sacks in 2008 to 40 in 2009, and hopefully isn't as porous this year.

I'm optimistic - if he won the job outright, good for him. Look forward to seeing him grow as the season progresses.

 

[RU#1fan]

Because he hasn’t done anything with the opportunities he has had, and we have 5 automatic losses on our schedule. In addition to those 5 games, do you think Gio is winning vs. NW, @md, etc? I don’t.

Similar to the Purdue game last year. Yes

 

[RUinPAC10land]

I wonder if Jake Fromm's success played a role.

 

[brucelaw8]

I only asked the question because he assumed Art would get Rutgers to 6 wins just because he has potential. I'm not saying it's impossible, but Art has yet to take an in-game snap. There will be a lot of weight on the shoulders of Art, and the minute he cracks, people are going to call for his head. I don't want to see a repeat of what happened to Savage. Personally, I think there should be a mix of old and new until someone pulls away by displaying his ability in a meaningful game.

You have more football experience than all of us on the board together .That being said,a decision has been made and there should only be one chief in the house & not fragmented leadership .There seems to be no question in the coaches mind that Art is our best QB ,who does not need anyone to hold his hand.Screw the committee,our guy has been chosen

 

[RUTrack94]

We have educated fan compatriots on this board that measure events extremely as all-time best or worst as 0's or 10's on a ten scale.

There is no 1 through 9 with this board.