If Rogers plays like he did in the 2nd and 3rd quarters we won't win 5 games. if he plays like he did in the 1st and 4th we win 7. Rogers has to stop "overthinking it"...He seems to play not to lose instead of just reacting and making the downfield throws. When we got behind and when he had to make the plays, they were open. In college, a football team will go as far as the QB...Time will tell....The dink and dunk will not win many games. We are going to have to run and make 15-20 yard throws...Maybe we open it up more v NC State, should be more energy and a larger crowd.
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I usually don’t bash the QB. I especially hate to call for the backup, which is customary throughout MSU football history. So I’m going to save my criticism for now. However, that criticism will involve being more aggressive and being tougher.
This board may be due for an explosion later this season with people holding back criticism and negativity for future use. We need a warning siren before it happens so the rest of us can get in our bomb shelters.
Rogers was not why the 2nd and 3rd quarters were garbage. He played great except for a couple misses and the int.
I'm not going to beat him up except for the turnovers. He's never going to be Dak Prescott or even Gardner Minshew. But he battles. It was game one with an all new OL and a couple new WRs. He's got to get rid of the ball though. That's the concerning part with him.
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I will say that he sometimes holds the ball too long, but most of his throws were absolute $$$
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Agreed, this what I meant in earlier thread about trusting
His receivers. He has to trust them to make plays when they don’t have great separation and do it quickly. Wallet had three Gus on him on that TD pass in the forth and he threw a perfect pass and did it quickly and decisively.
His receivers. He has to trust them to make plays when they don’t have great separation and do it quickly. Wallet had three Gus on him on that TD pass in the forth and he threw a perfect pass and did it quickly and decisively.
I was very underwhelmed with his arm strength. I didn’t remember it looking so weak. Some of those sideline throws took forever to get to the WR.
His arm strength is very underwhelming. He did seem to get tight when we were in contention, and then loosened up when we needed come from behind play. I hope he can get rid of the ball a little quicker, and I would like to see him be able to read his 2nd and 3rd checks and not throw to the guy directly in front of him. Makes me feel worse about the other QBs "competing" for the starter job.
Yes. On those 15 yard out routes to Walley it looked like he had to put all his effort into making those throws and they seemed like they were in the air forever.
I’m glad he was able to get the YPC over 7 but it is concerning that he holds the ball as long ad he does. And if it weren’t for Marks being open on the bailout route he doesn’t look like he’s confident to put the ball anywhere else down the field.
Pretty sure everyone here knows exactly where Genes Page is. Hopefully most of us get our info from several different places. Like Wyatt as well as other sites. Someone had a by the yard break down of every pass thrown very informative and it was an increase across the board over last year. Walley was over 10 yards and Calvin was almost 11so not sure about the 7 ypc. Think it was Sunday coffee by Bart Gregory
I thought he did fine when he had time.
He's better and in rhythm for the quick throws
He ABSOLUETLY telegraphed his throw for the pick six. All Qbs do this occasionally. He needs to look off defenders better.
We had a hard time giving him time for the deeper routes everyone is giving him **** for not throwing.
Only a couple of our WRs can get open on routes over 5 yards. We need to get better.\
Line blocked terrible on stunts and blitzes until someone told them to do better in qtr 4. Wish I knew who it was.
He is not a cannon arm QB and is not going to be. Sorry.
That transfer QB for Tech is legit. Holtz did an excellent job on19 transfers. They are going to be a handful for most teams baring injury. The transfer rule is going to change a bunch of college football teams and we need to do a better job ourselves.
I let the Tequilla do the talking during this game. I'm waiting tl see which team shows up Saturday.
He does need to go through his progressions faster. We also need more than two of our guys to get open on a consistent basis.
He really needs decide to throw it away or run with it faster or he's going need a body cast in SEC play
Imagine a time when you hear the State QB completed 83% of his passes for 370 yards with 3 TD’s and you get on a message board and see the amount of moaning groaning about “arm strength” and holding on to the ball too long.
83 17ing percent. Some of you are living in a fairytale land.
83 17ing percent. Some of you are living in a fairytale land.
It becomes an issue when we throw it 50 times a game and it is your only source of yardage. 370 yards, 47 passes. That is 7.8 yards per attempt. Much better than last year’s 5. But if you watched the game and have no concern about arm strength and getting the ball downfield, then you are drunk on Jean’s Kool Aid.
In my 57 years the best QB on the MSU campus has usually been the back up QB. The only time it's ever been true is when John Bond and Dak Prescott were the backups.
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He looked to be putting a lot of oompf to get those out there and they still took a bit too long. Those are pick 6’s against better CB’s.
He looked to be putting a lot of oompf to get those out there and they still took a bit too long. Those are pick 6’s against better CB’s.
Throw it as much as we do and there are going to be mistakes and issues blocking. Just how it is in this offense.
But which backup QB! There have been plenty of arguments over which backup is better.
Robby Mink started MSU’s first two games in 1980.
Edit to add: It was understood that Bond was going to play and if I recall correctly, Mink started off as a walk-on?
Edit to add: It was understood that Bond was going to play and if I recall correctly, Mink started off as a walk-on?
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I’m not ready to tar and feather Rogers like some seem to be but it’s much easier to have a good completion % when the ball never gets pushed more than 10 yards. Hell I bet half his throws are within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage.
Thanks. Guess I wasn't paying much attention that year until JB took over. Will never forget that game in early November that year. I was there. Really.
He obviously doesn’t trust the o-line but then again, why would he? It was like at times yesterday he couldn’t see the field at all. Several times receivers were wide open and yet he held on to the ball. Also, not saying our o-line is great, not even descent, but if the QB holds the ball all day long, the o-line is eventually going to collapse in on itself.