Purdue v. Michigan
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I don’t think Purdue’s looks from the arc where any better against us than they were against Michigan. 4-17 was a fluke. And I assume that Edwards’ injury must have been aggravated. They just did not have to play the same Purdue team that our guys did.
Yeah..but same thing happened after we played them at the RAC. They lost 3 in a row. ( and yeah I know they beat osu yesterday)
I was at game and Michigan's defense just shut down Purdue. They let Haas score inside but that was it neutralizing them from 3
Point range. Plus Beilein is exceptional and the crowd was overwhelmingly Michigan. Also Teske the backup center was awesome having the game of his career
Point range. Plus Beilein is exceptional and the crowd was overwhelmingly Michigan. Also Teske the backup center was awesome having the game of his career
Seth Davis yesterday said he thinks Michigan is a final 4 team. Will be interesting to see how the longer layoff affects Michigan as well as the other 3 teams from the conference to go dancing.
Beilein may be best X and O’s coach in the country.
The wait is awful.
The wait is awful.
Actually Beilein said when presented with the trophy he ideally would have liked to have been playing this Thursday or Friday however it was worth it to be playing I. The works
Greatest arena.
Greatest arena.
Lots of ups and downs with the top B1G teams his year.
MSU was the favorite early. Then many thought Purdue was the best team in the country for a while. OSU then came out of nowhere and got hot, as did Nebraska. Both are trending downward as MSU came back, only to overtaken by Michigan.
In my opinion, MSU and Michigan can make a Final Four run but MSU’s chemistry seems off. OSU could make be a sweet sixteen team with the right draw and I expect Purdue to disappoint as either a one-and-done or sweet sixteen. Purdue just looks too slow to me.
However, I predict Michigan and MSU in the Elite Eight and no B1G team in the Final Four this year.
MSU was the favorite early. Then many thought Purdue was the best team in the country for a while. OSU then came out of nowhere and got hot, as did Nebraska. Both are trending downward as MSU came back, only to overtaken by Michigan.
In my opinion, MSU and Michigan can make a Final Four run but MSU’s chemistry seems off. OSU could make be a sweet sixteen team with the right draw and I expect Purdue to disappoint as either a one-and-done or sweet sixteen. Purdue just looks too slow to me.
However, I predict Michigan and MSU in the Elite Eight and no B1G team in the Final Four this year.
Wasn't Beilein in the mix for a job at Rutgers?
Can't remember if it was the Fred Hill hire or Rice.
MO
The Purdue team that showed up today did so, in part, because of us. [winking] More and more, we're becoming the team nobody wants to play. We always give 'em that work!
Actually was at Richmond and decided to pass. Belive G Waters hire. Then he went wvu ..iirc
And this is what pissed me off about the quadrant thing and early b1g being down effect on tourney picks.
This league right now nothing like early season. You can't tell me top four teams are all like top 16 in country...then psu and nebby all the way down to like 45+. NFW.
If the so called experts want the best teams in the tourney right now...they ..at least psu is one of them.
This league right now nothing like early season. You can't tell me top four teams are all like top 16 in country...then psu and nebby all the way down to like 45+. NFW.
If the so called experts want the best teams in the tourney right now...they ..at least psu is one of them.
I don’t think Nebraska or Penn Stare will get in now. I think the B1G blew these bids in Nov-Dec with their pathetic showing against other P5 teams, particularly the ACC.
If one does get a bid, I think it’s Nebraska by beating Penn State last Sunday. Their collapse against Michigan week looks better after Michigan beat MSU and Purdue this weekend.
its about body work, its not how you finished....the Big 10 scheduled horribly as a conference and thats why they are in this situation beyond losing most of the time they did play Power 5 schools. RU has won of the best wins.for the Big 10..what does that say for the rest of the conference
I think penn State will 99.99 % be in the tournament, I see them as a 7 seed cruising past whoever is a 10 and giving the 2 a rough game depending on which 2...
Most of their misses weren't that close. Michigan had little trouble getting to the basket with some nice interior passing and guys that could finish.
Interesting. I'd be surprised...but I've certainly be surprised before. I do agree that they would be a tough out, however - especially if Watkins returns. Tony Carr is a helluva player and I love the way he controls the tempo of the game.
Mathias and Edwards were stifled against Michigan as compared to getting open 3 point shots against Rutgers .Michigan also has two 7 foot centers that both scored in double figures against Purdue.
MSU is a sloppy team. They have great individual talent, but they make lots of mental mistakes on both offense and defense. It's awful late in the season to still be making those early season mistakes, especially for a team that returned so many starters and bench players. I mean Jaren Jackson is really the only new player in their rotation and they still look disjointed at times on both ends.
I'm not sure if they can just turn it on for 6 games when they haven't done it at any point this year.
no, I understand BAC. I just disagree with this new approach. So the NCAA can have a crappy tourney by putting in teams playing like [poop] now because their overall numbers built on a flawed grid system and early season success over teams that have really turned it on 2nd half of year.
Just looking at UM (I think) numbers for Q1 wins....same weight for beating top 10 Purdue and OSU at home as #70 Maryland road....as much as I know hard t win on road I just don't like it. And too many other things moving around. Should be where a team was when you beat them.
Even heard the Tourney commish say yesterday they would consider who was playing or not....that's BS. If you're gonna weigh in that kind of consideration there is room for others.
2% chance psu make the tournament. they have some bad losses and if they get in they will be a 12 seed playing in the play in game. they do have the talent to beat someone if they got in.
I think it helps the mid majors. They have a tough time getting home games against good opponents. The quadrants allow added degree of difficulty for road games which was never really accounted for much in past. They used to really just look at record vs RPI top 100. Now you can get a Quadrant 1 win against a road team down to #75 and a Quadrant 2 win against a road team down to #135.
Now is it perfect? Of course not. Within a quadrant there are some vastly differing levels of difficulty, but it at least gives bonuses for wins away from home that you never really got objectively measured in the past.
The problem is you are already hearing all the bracketologists relying on Quadrant one wins. I have gone down the list of RPI 1-50 and I have not seen any benefit to any mid major. Sounds nice in theory but in reality a stacked deck at best and a joke at worst. The best I’ve scene is Middle Tennessee at 3-3. I doubt that gets them in if they lose to ODU or WKU. I just am not seeing any real tangible benefit.
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I don't think anyone would argue any system should have MTSU as a slam dunk at large team if they lose in their conference tourney, except perhaps an MTSU alum. Bart Torvik's resume comparison tool suggests that 10 teams most like this MTSU team the last decade have had 5 auto bids and 3 at large bids (twice didn't make it), or about 50/50 to get in if they don't win the tourney. That seems about right for a team with a nice record but a decided lack of great wins.
MTSU's problem for an at large bid isn't the Quadrant system, it's the simple fact they don't play many good opponents. You can measure it however you want, but when your 3 best wins OOC are Belmont, 12-19 Vandy, and 12-19 Ole Miss it's tough to impress.
For someone that complains about a team like Nebraska not getting love as an at large despite their 13-5 record in a "major" conference, I'm a bit surprised you are so into a team like MTSU that racks up wins in a piddly conference also being deserving. Do you just want a 128 team tournament?
that would not help. both teams would need to beat a team who is a lock for the tournament.