PSA: Men's Basketball Game
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Watching a bit of it now. There's hardly anybody in the stands. Not counting the officials, staff, and cheerleaders there must not be over a couple hundred fans there.
I haven't been to a basketball game in about 10 years, and then it was during the SEC schedule. Used to have season tickets. But it was always pretty full then ... I guess I'm not used to non-conference games, plus the students must be out for Christmas. It was a pretty close game last time I checked in and Newman looked good.
I agree. I thought we hit a home run with howland but we just look badly coached and it's starting to make me worry
Yeah... it's gotta be the coach...
I'm not saying that at all. I did expect us to look better this year bc of Howland though and it hasn't happened. I'm not unhappy with Howland... We'll be better bc of his recruiting.
Hell Saban did nothing at bama till he got his players
I figured as much. I just couldn't resist the jab after all the Mullen mania around here post Egg Bowl.
It has been a pattern in Howland's past that he has not done well the first year until, as you said, he gets players that fit his game.
It's probably going to take another season after this one before we can seriously make some noise.
It has been a pattern in Howland's past that he has not done well the first year until, as you said, he gets players that fit his game.
It's probably going to take another season after this one before we can seriously make some noise.
Elijah Staley dancing like a fool on the bench---Please don't tear your ACL again trying to play basketball!!!!
We won, and we did it with defense. Played zone and Tulane couldn't find a basket. I still think this team has some potential to be exciting to watch. All I ever hoped for was a .500 season...that is in doubt, but I do think this team can be exciting to watch.
Actually a nice win right there. Got down by 10 or so in the second half, then came back to win by 10.
Gavin Ware is really becoming a good player. Would be fun to watch him alongside a true 5.
Gavin Ware is really becoming a good player. Would be fun to watch him alongside a true 5.
Perhaps you're wrong considering Howland loves man to man defense yet he's taught them to play zone which they did the whole game and helped them win. Why you ask because he unfortunately was left with marginal players and no bench, so being critical of a highly regarded, excellent recruiter with the credentials to back that up and only having played 10 games seems a little early to perceive him not to be "good at teaching". Also if you think Tulane is a better coached team then perhaps you've had to much Christmas already 
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.Hey, I love Howland, but we've been a disappointment this year with him leading the show. You say Howland taught this team zone defense, but this team has played zone pretty much their whole careers. I get Howland wants to play man-to-man, but we suck really bad playing it. None of our post players can play man-to-man without fouling. Ready gets abused man-to-man... We can't play man-to-man. Had we played zone from the beginning of the year, we at least beat southern and umkc to be 7-3 right now.
I love Howland. I said earlier that I believe he'll get us turned around in the future, but he isn't above criticism. This team shouldn't be 5-5 right now.
I love Howland. I said earlier that I believe he'll get us turned around in the future, but he isn't above criticism. This team shouldn't be 5-5 right now.
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It was nice to see this team win after being down 9 in the second half. Hopefully this team gets some confidence to finish games. Who knows, maybe we'll get hot in sec play this year.
FARH HOWLANDZ!!!1!!1
Damn. I can't believe some of our fans were expecting more with this team with all of the depth/talent issues it has. Some people are acting like we were supposed to be a lock for the Final Four. There's not much ANY coach could do with this bunch.
Damn. I can't believe some of our fans were expecting more with this team with all of the depth/talent issues it has. Some people are acting like we were supposed to be a lock for the Final Four. There's not much ANY coach could do with this bunch.
My observations from the game.
- We have no inside presence other than Ware. He is our MVP.
- Our rebounding sucks, other than Ware. Even when they have good position. Opponents will get offensive rebounds for days if Ware is out.
- No one other than Ware or Sword can score, except to just shoot 3s.
- We seem much better handling the ball, fewer turnovers.
- If MN had been drafted straight out of highschool, he would not have played 2 minutes in the NBA yet. He's got potential but doesn't look anywhere near NBA ready.
- I really like Weatherspoon. He missed a few easy shots yesterday, but he's going to be a very good starter for us.
- We seem to have found a rotation of the best 8 guys, which is really all you need. That's better than Ray trying to act like he needs 12 healthy players.
I think if we can get Holman healthy and he's as good as we expect, this team can do ok in the second half of the season. You can tell we're still developing chemistry on the offensive (especially with the new guys). Hope that comes together a bit as the season goes on. I kind of wonder what kind of impact Staley could have. We need an athletic big guy (over 6'4") that does more than just shoot (and miss) long jumpers. I'm not sure what his skillset is.
- We have no inside presence other than Ware. He is our MVP.
- Our rebounding sucks, other than Ware. Even when they have good position. Opponents will get offensive rebounds for days if Ware is out.
- No one other than Ware or Sword can score, except to just shoot 3s.
- We seem much better handling the ball, fewer turnovers.
- If MN had been drafted straight out of highschool, he would not have played 2 minutes in the NBA yet. He's got potential but doesn't look anywhere near NBA ready.
- I really like Weatherspoon. He missed a few easy shots yesterday, but he's going to be a very good starter for us.
- We seem to have found a rotation of the best 8 guys, which is really all you need. That's better than Ray trying to act like he needs 12 healthy players.
I think if we can get Holman healthy and he's as good as we expect, this team can do ok in the second half of the season. You can tell we're still developing chemistry on the offensive (especially with the new guys). Hope that comes together a bit as the season goes on. I kind of wonder what kind of impact Staley could have. We need an athletic big guy (over 6'4") that does more than just shoot (and miss) long jumpers. I'm not sure what his skillset is.
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With the
group of players that the past regime collected, losing to those teams wasn't an unfathomable event.
group of players that the past regime collected, losing to those teams wasn't an unfathomable event.
Maybe it's just me, but Malik still seems to be playing as if he's uncertain as to what his role is on the team at this point. With all the upperclassmen on the current roster, I can't fault him for that, but I don't see it getting him to the NBA anytime soon. I just noticed that draftexpress has him down towards the bottom of the 1st round now, and NBADraft.net doesn't have him on the board anywhere. I'd have to think that it would take some kind of special 2nd half to this season for him to be making the jump after this year.
Never said you didn't like Howland, and no coach is above being criticized, was pointing out that you believe he's not a good teacher and has done nothing with this team to convince you that he is. It's true their man defense is very poor and yes they played zone when Ray was here, but not at the level they played yesterday. But it's not because of Howlands perceived lack of teaching ability, it's the players he's inherited. In all honesty do you truly believe that he would have recruited any of the returning players, I seriously doubt it. Hard to teach players that have limited ability. So before we jump on the "Howland can't teach" band wagon maybe we should judge his ability when he has the players that have that ability to be taught.
I'm with you. He shoots a good 3 ball but doesn't do much more than that right now. He seems hesitant to attack the defense and doesn't do much to create his own shots. I may have had false expectations but I thought he would be more dynamic as the #1 SG in the country. I'm not down on him by any means, I just hoped for more with his rating and the NBA talk. Hopefully he stays healthy and gets in a groove going forward.
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