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The Patriot

The Patriot

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PioneerPride11 said:
CC in the west probably the toughest 8 seed ive ever seen. They'll be a tough out.
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They’ve really struggled this year, Sun Valley beat them 21-0 a few weeks ago. That’s who Freedom could match up with in the third round. I wasn’t too happy to see them with the five seed.
 
BIGSAUSAGES

BIGSAUSAGES

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Formula I know but explain how South Point has two conference losses and finishes behind Crest in conference standings , and Crest wins head to head and SP ends up with 1 seed. SP non conference games were not as tough as Crest.
can anyone explain the formula , I have yet to find anyone that can
Why have conferences
 
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beamer24

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BIGSAUSAGES said:
Formula I know but explain how South Point has two conference losses and finishes behind Crest in conference standings , and Crest wins head to head and SP ends up with 1 seed. SP non conference games were not as tough as Crest.
can anyone explain the formula , I have yet to find anyone that can
Why have conferences
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They need to put something in for conference finish and head to head just not sure how they can in RPI formula.
 
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MagicRaider

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I wondered when the bitching and belly aching would start. It didn't take long at all.
However I would feel the same way if the shoe were on the other foot. Apparently they don't agree with the Cresties on who played the stronger schedule. In the end you have to beat the opponent in your way.
My personal opinion is Crest is the best 5A team in the state unfortunately your road to the "SHIP" runs through Lineberger stadium.
Good luck to all.
 
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BurnsBulldog02

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BIGSAUSAGES said:
Totally agree
Ridiculous this happens
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They have ruined the idea of a conference championship. It means nothing. It’s a T-shirt or a stat but playoff wise it means nothing. Just get rid of conferences and let teams make their own 10 game schedule. That forces teams to play tougher opponents and then you cannot fuss about your own RPI because it’s your own schedule.
 
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I agree, I don't see SP a # 1 seed. The whole RPI doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. But, what do I know. Raiders got a butt whipping by Crest. And may be a 1 seed.🙃
 
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To me, the idea behind seeding based on RPI is fine, however the way that they have done it is awful, and very lazy. You can’t solely base it off of W/L. There are a few more factors that should be taken into consideration.
1. Playing up/down classifications
2. Head to Head matchups
3. Conference Champs
4. Point differential in win
Just to name a few. South point ahead of Crest is hilarious especially in the way the beat them. Also Franklin at 6, having played Murphy (loss) Robbinsville and swain. Forest hills at 11 with 7/10 teams played with a 30% Win. The way some conference have aligned sucks I get that, but teams that schedule hard non conferences should be rewarded, and vice versa.
 
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notanyonesfan1

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If you're gonna go solely by RPI, I agree they should just do away with conferences and let teams make their own schedules. Conferences mean nothing anymore and actually hurt the good teams by forcing them to play bad teams

Maybe make it were you have to play a certain amount of teams in your division and have a certain amount to play anyone else.

Example Burns: Have to play 8 4A teams and can play any other division team the other 2 games. Or Crest. Have to play 8 5A teams and have 2 games to play any other division team. And so on. If 8 is too many make it 7. I dunno but something to make it make more sense
 
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VP13

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New here, but been around NC High School Football since 95. I have seen some crazy ways that they have come up with doing playoff seeding. Back when I started playoff spots were awarded to each conference before the year started and went to the conference champs and usually the runner ups (sometimes the 3rd place team would get in but it depended on the conference). Then only 16 teams over 4 divisions got to play. Then they went to big and little, and even had a pod system (which was horrible) to cut down on travel expense, and the stupidity of if you play in a split conference then the highest finisher from each division gets seeded like a conference champ. I do think this system was created to keep any bias out of it. Basically the state said go out and play the toughest people you can find and good luck. However, I do believe it should be adjusted for future years. So here is my opinion on that...... If you are not .500 or better by the end of season you do not deserve a playoff spot. Conference Champs should be seeded higher (winning a conference should mean something and be rewarded). After these two things then you can go to RPI. to work out the rest. This is how the 3a West could look if that was the case:

1st round (everyone gets a bye as only 16 teams qualify)

2nd round
1 Robinson 9-1 vs 16 Hunter Huss 5-5
8 Franklin 8-2 vs 9 NW Cabarrus 7-3
5 SP 8-2 vs 12 West Henderson 6-4
4 Oak Grove 7-3 vs 13 Concord 6-4
3 Monroe 6-3 vs 14 Carson 5-5
6 Crest 8-2 vs 11 Forest Hills 8-2
7 East Lincoln 9-1 vs 10 West Rowan 6-4
2 Hickory 9-1 vs 15 North Davidson 6-4
 
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notanyonesfan1

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I also think the RPI formula should be adjusted. The 40-40-20 doesn't make sense. You shouldn't get the same amount of credit for an opponents win or loss as you do your own. Your own wins should count more. Maybe go with a 50-30-20 system.

Or actually maybe just take opponents opponents win percentage out entirely. You have zero control over what your opponents opponents do. Maybe just make it a 60-40 system. 60% your win percentage and 40% your opponents win percentage

If there ends up being a tie in RPI then 1st tie breaker should be head to head if there was one and 2nd tie breaker should be point differential.
 
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WNCfootball

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It’s actually better than it was last year when it was 30-40-30.
I don’t get the hate for the number of teams in the playoffs. What does it hurt to let kids play another game? After all it’s for the kids. Not us. And with the new way of doing it. The last team in only goes to the 9 seed. So you avoid some of those 1-32 blowouts. Let the kids play and let the state have their $
 
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MagicRaider said:
I wondered when the bitching and belly aching would start. It didn't take long at all.
However I would feel the same way if the shoe were on the other foot. Apparently they don't agree with the Cresties on who played the stronger schedule. In the end you have to beat the opponent in your way.
My personal opinion is Crest is the best 5A team in the state unfortunately your road to the "SHIP" runs through Lineberger stadium.
Good luck to all.
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And run thru you we will if you make it that far
 
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The Patriot

The Patriot

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AHSalum16 said:
To me, the idea behind seeding based on RPI is fine, however the way that they have done it is awful, and very lazy. You can’t solely base it off of W/L. There are a few more factors that should be taken into consideration.
1. Playing up/down classifications
2. Head to Head matchups
3. Conference Champs
4. Point differential in win
Just to name a few. South point ahead of Crest is hilarious especially in the way the beat them. Also Franklin at 6, having played Murphy (loss) Robbinsville and swain. Forest hills at 11 with 7/10 teams played with a 30% Win. The way some conference have aligned sucks I get that, but teams that schedule hard non conferences should be rewarded, and vice versa.
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Head-to-head and conference championship should be part of it. But the association doesn't want to encourage running up the score and they probably won't use playing "up" or "down" since they force so many teams into split conferences. A lot of this could have been avoided by having three classifications (for the purposes of making conferences) and then subdividing in all sports for playoffs, so six state champions. I was told on the old boards that this was something the association membership rejected years ago, but it seems short-sighted now.
 
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If you did that though, you would have to let virtually everyone into the playoffs still bc the enrollment differences in only 3 classes would be enormous. I agreee there should be something said for winning conference, for winning head to head, and for margin of victory. But alas, I just pay my money to watch the games. Not make decisions!
 
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Anon1751539575 said:
If you did that though, you would have to let virtually everyone into the playoffs still bc the enrollment differences in only 3 classes would be enormous. I agreee there should be something said for winning conference, for winning head to head, and for margin of victory. But alas, I just pay my money to watch the games. Not make decisions!
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We ran the numbers on the old boards, and the numbers weren't that bad except for outliers. Andrews has less than 200 kids, so they're going to be at a disadvantage in almost any system, except the one we have now (which has only about 20 schools that will make the 1A playoffs). you let in 32 schools (16 east and west) in 1A, 1AA, 2A, 2AA, 3A and 3AA and that's 192 schools in the playoffs, which is pretty similar to what we once had.
 
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The Patriot said:
Head-to-head and conference championship should be part of it. But the association doesn't want to encourage running up the score and they probably won't use playing "up" or "down" since they force so many teams into split conferences. A lot of this could have been avoided by having three classifications (for the purposes of making conferences) and then subdividing in all sports for playoffs, so six state champions. I was told on the old boards that this was something the association membership rejected years ago, but it seems short-sighted now.
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I agree in the sense of conference play, my point was more towards out of conference play. I absolutely think playing up or down should be more/less rewarding. For example, Crest losing to weddington should weigh more than Franklin beating Robbinsville. I understand that a lot that(Franklin specifically) has to do with mountain teams, but you have to be willing to travel and play tougher teams if you want to be rewarded with a higher seed.
 
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