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Programs With Most NCAAT Wins 2010-21

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dlh331

Heisman
Jan 4, 2003
28,657
22,384
113
1. Kentucky 31-8
2. Duke 26-8
3. Gonzaga 25-10 with one game left
4. Kansas 25-11
5. UNC 24-9
6. Michigan 22-9
7. Michigan State 21-11
8. Syracuse 20-9
9. Villanova 19-8
10. Florida 19-9
11. Wisconsin 19-10
 
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DaytonKat

DaytonKat

All-Conference
Apr 10, 2007
3,559
4,711
113
College basketball 4 years of eligibility.

4 most recent Recruiting Class Rankings leading into most recent season:

2017 - 2nd ranked recruiting class
2018 - 2nd ranked recruiting class
2019 - 2nd ranked recruiting class
2020 - 1st ranked recruiting class

2020 - 2021 Accomplishments:

9 - 16 overall record; worst record in program history since invention of sliced bread.

Finished 8th in SEC regular season.

Lost 1st game in Conference Tournament to team that finished 9th in conference play.

Has the BBN sold out for fool's gold (standard)?
 
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RunninRichie

Heisman
Sep 5, 2019
29,019
69,968
113
DaytonKat said:
College basketball 4 years of eligibility.

4 most recent Recruiting Class Rankinks leading into most recent season:

2017 - 2nd ranked recruiting class
2018 - 2nd ranked recruiting class
2019 - 2nd ranked recruiting class
2020 - 1st ranked recruiting class

2020 - 2021 Accomplishments:

9 - 16 overall record; worst record in program history since invention of sliced bread.

Finished 8th in SEC regular season.

Lost 1st game in Conference Tournament to team that finished 9th in conference play.

Has the BBN sold out for fool's gold (standard)?
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mold standard
 
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Mojocat_rivals48469

Heisman
Jan 29, 2003
18,120
12,185
0
dlh331 said:
1. Kentucky 31-8
2. Duke 26-8
3. Gonzaga 25-10 with one game left
4. Kansas 25-11
5. UNC 24-9
6. Michigan 22-9
7. Michigan State 21-11
8. Syracuse 20-9
9. Villanova 19-8
10. Florida 19-9
11. Wisconsin 19-10
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Yes. To be that far ahead of the pack (Cal is 19% ahead - not quite Secretariat in the Belmont, but trending that way), then one of 2 things has to be true.

1. 2010-15 was better than he’s given credit for by some around here, or
2. 2016-22 isn’t as bad as some say.

And I’d like to see the analysis taken a step farther. How many of those wins came against top 4 seeds? And how many times was each coach upset (which the NCAA defines to be a loss to a team seeded 5 lines or more lower). I suspect that data would put Calipari far enough ahead that you’d have to squint to see him.
 
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kybassfan

Heisman
Jul 1, 2005
20,032
16,368
113
Damn Cal dint win nun them games wut they play in that thar baskettbawl tourdamneant what’ her called it. Them wuts in charge shut far at Calamari. At cantruct ont mean sheeut.
 
TortElvisII

TortElvisII

Heisman
May 7, 2010
51,700
96,942
66
DerekMcPwn said:
What does P5 have to do with anything? Half of the Final Four this year wasn’t P5, including the title favorite. What a bizarre thing to care about when the stat is already limited to tournament teams (i.e., quality opponents).
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How many non-power five teams has Kentucky lost to in the tournament? UCONN and in 2011 they were in the Big East so it was really a power 6.
 
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bthaunert

Heisman
Apr 4, 2007
29,518
21,619
0
dlh331 said:
Some thoughts:
1. I was surprised Michigan and Syracuse have more wins than Villanova
2. it is a myth Gonzaga flames out early every season
3. the Cal era is certainly front loaded
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1. Jay Wright has been win it all or nothing during that time period, so not too surprising. Outside of his 2 titles, he’s lost the first weekend all but 1 year (Sweet 16 this year) in that 12 year period.
2. Always been a myth. For some reason people think the Gonzaga of the last 5-10 years is the Gonzaga of 2003.
3. Definitely front loaded. I still have faith he has some really good seasons left at UK.
 
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CatPhight_rivals65113

Heisman
Nov 15, 2008
38,645
57,515
0
Wait...I don't see Indiana... [laughing]

 
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tls

Heisman
Nov 7, 2007
7,871
14,468
81
In UK tourney games where they were eliminated (under Cal), how many had the Cats as favorites?
 
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blockm2

Senior
Jul 9, 2001
4,354
584
0
bthaunert said:
1. Jay Wright has been win it all or nothing during that time period, so not too surprising. Outside of his 2 titles, he’s lost the first weekend all but 1 year (Sweet 16 this year) in that 12 year period.
2. Always been a myth. For some reason people think the Gonzaga of the last 5-10 years is the Gonzaga of 2003.
3. Definitely front loaded. I still have faith he has some really good seasons left at UK.
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no kidding about Wright. He was working on quite the rep as a 1 or 2 seed annually flaming out early til the titles eased that pressure.
 
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Mojocat_rivals48469

Heisman
Jan 29, 2003
18,120
12,185
0
bthaunert said:
1. Jay Wright has been win it all or nothing during that time period, so not too surprising. Outside of his 2 titles, he’s lost the first weekend all but 1 year (Sweet 16 this year) in that 12 year period.
2. Always been a myth. For some reason people think the Gonzaga of the last 5-10 years is the Gonzaga of 2003.
3. Definitely front loaded. I still have faith he has some really good seasons left at UK.
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I would say characterizations of Gonzaga as always flaming out early is an exaggeration, not a myth. In 2013, Few lost as a 1 seed to 9 seed Wichita State, and in 2018 he lost as a 4 seed to 9 seed Florida State - and actually ‘lost’ doesn’t really capture it. The score was 75-60, but it was worse than that. The NCAA defines upset as a loss to a team seeded at least 5 lines lower, so those 2 qualify. Beyond that, several 20+ point losses in the tournament, all in recent history.
 
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UK96GOAT

Senior
Mar 21, 2021
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882
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HagginHall1999 said:
Right, because everything before 2016 doesn't count.
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It counts but nobody was calling for Cal's job in 2016. Cals first 6 years, he was 22-4. Thats remarkable. No doubt. His last 6 seasons 9-4. Thats not gold standard.

Last 5 NCAA Tournaments counting this year:
Cal: 0 Championship games, 0 final 4s, 2 Elite 8s, 3 Sweet 16s, 1 2nd round exit, 1 missed tournament. NCAA Tournament Wins: 9

Mark Few: 2 Championship Games, 2 final 4s, 3 Elite 8s, 5 Sweet 16s, 0 2nd Round Exits, 0 missed tournaments, NCAA Tournament Wins: 17
 
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AGEE11

All-American
Jan 10, 2014
3,222
6,651
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DaytonKat said:
College basketball 4 years of eligibility.

4 most recent Recruiting Class Rankings leading into most recent season:

2017 - 2nd ranked recruiting class
2018 - 2nd ranked recruiting class
2019 - 2nd ranked recruiting class
2020 - 1st ranked recruiting class

2020 - 2021 Accomplishments:

9 - 16 overall record; worst record in program history since invention of sliced bread.

Finished 8th in SEC regular season.

Lost 1st game in Conference Tournament to team that finished 9th in conference play.

Has the BBN sold out for fool's gold (standard)?
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Not fools gold, this is the issue. Kids in all those classes bolt when they should stay. This has been mentioned many times on the board. I;ve posted it a few times and I know @IL Wildcat and others have too.

Of the four classes you mentioned, we only had two players back that were not the current class. And one of those (Allen) redshirted.

This year stinked, stank, stunked. No doubt. How would all these other teams do with ~5% of their roster back?

Busts happen all the time. In college and pros. Unfortunately we got one this year with Boston and Clarke didn't play. That's the Yang to the Yin of the SGA's and Herro's who are better than advertised.

This team should of had Hagans, EJ, Juzang, and Baker to go with that class. But they all made decisions to leave. We can't chain them here for four years. Doesn't happen like that anymore.

College basketball is shifting again. Around 2008-2010 the OAD shift happened, Cal was ahead of the game and the results were the best program of the past decade. We are trending downward from his first five years, but that's because another shift is happening. Looks to be transfers now and who is ahead on that? Last I checked, UK had the top two in Oscar and Grady. Also had the top one this year in Sarr (who was kind of a bust)

This was a HORRIBLE year. But the previous years give Cal some leeway. Something like this happens again and then you really put the heat on him.

I trust Cal can right the ship.
 
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