Why do so many people have a problem with Grantham? Seems like he could be a very similar hire to Pittman at Ark (which is being praised by just about all national media). Could bring in a good and experienced staff and take the “CEO” approach while being the motivator for the team.
Problem with TG?
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Grantham has put a Top 25 D on the field like 6 of the last 7 years. At 3 different universities. That’s pretty solid.
We need to come up with a name for this disease. Maybe the Sean McVay disease since he was when I really started noticing it. Someone slightly different in a very unique set of circumstances comes in and sees immediate success = "hurry everyone we've got to use that formula" = a whole bunch of people hiring very underqualified young "hotshot" head coaches that are all failing spectacularly. The college version is now the Ed Orgeron disease. A perfect storm of circumstances = "let's hire a recruiter/position coach head coach to take a CEO approach and then hire hotshot coordinators". It's going to fail spectacularly in most places.
Did we not generally have good assistants under Mullen? It’s not like he is bringing back Hev and Billy G.
We really don't need Grantham as Head Coach. Shirley we can do better. Make Napier an offer he can't refuse.
So let me understand this logic: our fans had questions about Judge’s inexperience at the college level, but we can’t hire Grantham because he is too experienced to have not been a head coach yet? I am starting to think our fans would complain if we hired Dabo.
Grantham would be fine. Not the first choice but there are a lot of positives that would come with that hire.
Grantham would be fine. Not the first choice but there are a lot of positives that would come with that hire.
Top 25 defense under Grantham with a pretty good run first ball control offense = #1 under Shoop with zero help from the offense. Same players.
Grantham has very good but never quite elite defenses practically every year of his whole career. He can't field a truly elite defense because he has no self-control as a playcaller.
if he could hire a good OC he could potentially be pretty good. defense is known and would be good under him. He could be a very Muschampesque coach. that's the risk.
A ton of experience in the SEC. Years of having good defenses at many different schools. Has worked all around the country plus in the NFL. Is an intense SOB where discipline and toughness would not be an issue.
It’s fair to raise questions about him but incredibly ignorant to dismiss all of those good qualities. He is qualified to be our head coach.
Hmmm sounds like he could hire some one as DC with some self control as a play caller and let them call the plays if that’s your only issue with him. Then implement everything else that makes him successful as a DC into his head coaching philosophy.
Oh and maybe we could hire an OC that would run a “ball control offense” as well.
I’m not saying Grantham is a grand slam hire by any means, I just don’t see why he’s being looked at as a complete disaster by some fans either.
No, but it’s harder at Louisville and Mississippi State where he also had good defenses.
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Its a boring *** hire. He’s never been a head coach at any level. Any. You’re trying to excite the fan base and give them hope for the future and you hire.....*checks notes......Todd ******* Grantham? I’m out if that’s the direction we go.
If it was 2010 and Dabo had just finished 6-7 (firing Billy Napier as OC to keep his job) at Clemson, then yeah, fans would complain.
Timing is everything and very few ADs are confident enough not to follow the hot candidates of that year.
This is in no way aimed at you or your opinion. This is just my opinion. I personally don’t give a Rat’s *** about the praise from the cucks in the media. They are a large collection of morons that don’t know their head from their ***. Grantham is a career coordinator for a reason. This would be an awful, awful hire.
The defense is not a “known” with MSU’s talent level. He had the same 3 first round picks as Shoop and still gave up 30+ in half our SEC games.
Sorry, I have to say it, but the absolute best part to me if we hired TG would be that it would screw over Mullen. Took Mullen 9 years as a HC to find a DC he could work with more than a year or two and we steal him away. That would sort of be sweet revenge.
Hiring Moorhead over Norvell and Satterfield was a mistake. Cohen didn’t interview either I don’t believe but his final 3 were Moorhead, Chad Morris, and Jeremy Pruitt. He should be fired for that alone. Grantham is just the defensive version of the Moorhead mistake.
"Just about all national media" praised Sloppy Joe when he was hired too and some of them continue to even after his experiment failed and they say we should have kept him another year. Those morons obviously know a lot less than any of us message board heroes.
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I've no opinion on him, but he took us from below 100 ranked in defense to #10 in 1 year. Are we knocking him because he can't be truly "elite" ? That's like saying Saban has never put up a truly elite team because he lost a game. He has the #9 defense in the nation right now, and that offense is ranked 107th in rushing.............